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Post by msims on Aug 21, 2022 13:22:34 GMT -5
Jackie has already re-invented herself as an adult artist which had been her objective for a long time while stuck with the image of the "little girl with the big voice". She doesn't need to create a "new image". Rather, what she needs is to simply be acknowledged for who she is and what she has to offer. Apparently Jackie will continue appealing to fans with her concert repertoire of favorites mixed with current songs from album to album as long she's gratified, while taking "all these ideas that are wrapped in my head and putting them out to the world", in whatever form they take. This is Jackie's bus were riding on wherever the road leads. Some get off and some get on along the way. I'm enjoying the ride and have little need to be entertained by what has passed (I have albums to listen to). I'm interested in the present scenery and look forward to what's around the next bend. Yes, it's been "a great ride". But, the ride is NOT over, with new things to discover on this perpetual journey. Jackie will outlast her "smallish fan base" which will "crumble" of it own accord. She has been trying re-invent herself as an adult artist and lose the "innocent child star" label, no doubt. But she is still searching for new commercial success and apparently a way to write original songs and get them heard. It's all part or re-invention and exploration in a career. It's a process and she is still working on it. Jackie would fully agree with this, it's a pretty simple concept. I agree with a lot of what you said there. However, the last sentence is FAR from certain. Her smallish but loyal fan base is all she's got, and she has thus far been unable to substantially increase it. That's part of the re-invention and exploration into other genres and songwriting. If she were to lose her current fanbase today, her career would be over as nobody would come to her shows or buy her albums. The struggle isn't to maintian her smallish fanbase...it's pretty loyal although it is gradually dying off. Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had a decade ago. That has thus far proven to be entirely elusive. If its a struggle, its not hers. Jackie is and will always be the commercial success from AGT. Jackie is a Vocalist, that is she sings material that she can adapt and that works with her voice. Its really a matter of marketing the material in concert and on TV, as well as on social media which she will be doing. As far as her fan base, its a just a matter of getting the casual fans on board who are familiar with her but dont listen frequently to listen to the material by streaming it or checking out the album. |
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Post by lawrence on Aug 21, 2022 14:04:18 GMT -5
She has been trying re-invent herself as an adult artist and lose the "innocent child star" label, no doubt. But she is still searching for new commercial success and apparently a way to write original songs and get them heard. It's all part or re-invention and exploration in a career. It's a process and she is still working on it. Jackie would fully agree with this, it's a pretty simple concept. I agree with a lot of what you said there. However, the last sentence is FAR from certain. Her smallish but loyal fan base is all she's got, and she has thus far been unable to substantially increase it. That's part of the re-invention and exploration into other genres and songwriting. If she were to lose her current fanbase today, her career would be over as nobody would come to her shows or buy her albums. The struggle isn't to maintian her smallish fanbase...it's pretty loyal although it is gradually dying off. Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had a decade ago. That has thus far proven to be entirely elusive. If its a struggle, its not hers. Jackie is and will always be the commercial success from AGT. Jackie is a Vocalist, that is she sings material that she can adapt and that works with her voice. Its really a matter of marketing the material in concert and on TV, as well as on social media which she will be doing. As far as her fan base, its a just a matter of getting the casual fans on board who are familiar with her but dont listen frequently to listen to the material by streaming it or checking out the album. donkey said, "Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had a decade ago." How do you know that's her struggle? Maybe that isn't her purpose at all, knowing it's probably not possible considering all that is going against it from the industry and what she'd have to concede to if it did have an interest in her commercially? Jackie is an independent artist of integrity who cares more about recording and performing what is meaningful to her. I think some people are more concerned about what she should be doing to attain greater success than she is herself. It's not apparent to me that she is struggling to be more successful. Rather, her present struggle is getting healthy, and "fighting to not let this demon in my head take this one thing from me"....That will take time. Meanwhile, let's appreciate what she is offering, promote her music, and encourage interest in her as an artist. I'm a believer in encouragement. Most of what you say repeatedly is repressive, by intention it seems, and of no benefit to Jackie whatsoever. She knows what's what, and so do we. Jackie is finding her way toward her own vision which is yet undefined. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 16:03:46 GMT -5
If its a struggle, its not hers. Jackie is and will always be the commercial success from AGT. Jackie is a Vocalist, that is she sings material that she can adapt and that works with her voice. Its really a matter of marketing the material in concert and on TV, as well as on social media which she will be doing. As far as her fan base, its a just a matter of getting the casual fans on board who are familiar with her but dont listen frequently to listen to the material by streaming it or checking out the album. donkey said, "Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had a decade ago." How do you know that's her struggle? Maybe that isn't her purpose at all, knowing it's probably not possible considering all that is going against it from the industry and what she'd have to concede to if it did have an interest in her commercially? Jackie is an independent artist of integrity who cares more about recording and performing what is meaningful to her. I think some people are more concerned about what she should be doing to attain greater success than she is herself. It's not apparent to me that she is struggling to be more successful. Rather, her present struggle is getting healthy, and "fighting to not let this demon in my head take this one thing from me"....That will take time. Meanwhile, let's appreciate what she is offering, promote her music, and encourage interest in her as an artist. I'm a believer in encouragement. Most of what you say repeatedly is repressive, by intention it seems, and of no benefit to Jackie whatsoever. She knows what's what, and so do we. Jackie is finding her way toward her own vision which is yet undefined. Clearly you haven't paid much attention to what Jackie has said over the years. She has wanted to expand her fanbase for years now as the old one has been gradually dying out. Her own mother admitted as much a few years back. Jackie has long desired to have some level of success in the pop music industry, which would mean younger crowds. She has long expressed that desire. She has also expressed a desire to be a "powerhouse", and to create an "empire" in things like make-up lines, jewelery, and such. She also gave modeling a shot, but that didn't work out for her. It's not an "integrity" thing with Jackie at all, it's a "how can I keep my career from dying on the vine as my small but loyal fan base dies off "thing". The issue has never been "integrity" with Jackie and her music...you just invented that. There was never a threat to her integrity. She has been exploring other genres, like on TMS. And then doing what she can to get new eyes one her, preferably younger eyes, and hope they "dig" her new material. That's what TMS was all about, that's what singing at the inauguration was all about...exposure in hopes of expanding that fan base. Unfortunately, none of those things have worked to any significant degree. The good news is, her base is still big enough that she can still make a living at it for years to come with smallish, but doable audiences...like at small theaters or restaurants. And by the way, I encourage Jackie constantly and nonstop on her social media. This isn't her social media, and it isnt even a fan site. It's a place to objectively discuss the good and the bad and analyze possible solutions. I agree, she needs and deserves lots of encouragement on her social media. But don't confuse that and honest and objective career analysis here on this discussion board. |
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Post by lawrence on Aug 21, 2022 22:11:51 GMT -5
donkey said, "Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had a decade ago." How do you know that's her struggle? Maybe that isn't her purpose at all, knowing it's probably not possible considering all that is going against it from the industry and what she'd have to concede to if it did have an interest in her commercially? Jackie is an independent artist of integrity who cares more about recording and performing what is meaningful to her. I think some people are more concerned about what she should be doing to attain greater success than she is herself. It's not apparent to me that she is struggling to be more successful. Rather, her present struggle is getting healthy, and "fighting to not let this demon in my head take this one thing from me"....That will take time. Meanwhile, let's appreciate what she is offering, promote her music, and encourage interest in her as an artist. I'm a believer in encouragement. Most of what you say repeatedly is repressive, by intention it seems, and of no benefit to Jackie whatsoever. She knows what's what, and so do we. Jackie is finding her way toward her own vision which is yet undefined. Clearly you haven't paid much attention to what Jackie has said over the years. She has wanted to expand her fanbase for years now as the old one has been gradually dying out. Her own mother admitted as much a few years back. Jackie has long desired to have some level of success in the pop music industry, which would mean younger crowds. She has long expressed that desire. She has also expressed a desire to be a "powerhouse", and to create an "empire" in things like make-up lines, jewelery, and such. She also gave modeling a shot, but that didn't work out for her. It's not an "integrity" thing with Jackie at all, it's a "how can I keep my career from dying on the vine as my small but loyal fan base dies off "thing". The issue has never been "integrity" with Jackie and her music...you just invented that. There was never a threat to her integrity. She has been exploring other genres, like on TMS. And then doing what she can to get new eyes one her, preferably younger eyes, and hope they "dig" her new material. That's what TMS was all about, that's what singing at the inauguration was all about...exposure in hopes of expanding that fan base. Unfortunately, none of those things have worked to any significant degree. The good news is, her base is still big enough that she can still make a living at it for years to come with smallish, but doable audiences...like at small theaters or restaurants.And by the way, I encourage Jackie constantly and nonstop on her social media. This isn't her social media, and it isnt even a fan site. It's a place to objectively discuss the good and the bad and analyze possible solutions. I agree, she needs and deserves lots of encouragement on her social media. But don't confuse that and honest and objective career analysis here on this discussion board .This is your comment that I responded to: "Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had A DECADE AGO." We all know that is not realistic. And, again it's the same old rhetoric we've heard from you repeatedly....Jackie's "dying fan base". Nothing new. And, I'm well aware of "what Jackie has said over the years." "Integrity" means not compromising herself for the sake of greater success. What further success she attains will be on her own terms, as she has said often...."I don't want to be told what to sing or how to sing it". I didn't say "encourage Jackie". I said "encourage interest in her as an artist". I see very little if any of that from you here. Perhaps you should be "honest and objective" on social media as well. Tell Jackie personally that "She can still make a living at it for years to come with smallish, but doable audiences...like at small theaters or restaurants". That's what you really think. Or, is it that you don't want to "hurt feelings or discourage her", as you said before? So, you say that kind of thing here where you suppose it doesn't get around..... "...analyze possible solutions". For who's benefit? Certainly not Jackie's, since she doesn't read comments here. As a fan, I'd leave such matters to her and her associates who are better informed of her needs and her vision for the future, and put some effort into doing something more positive and constructive like promoting her and her music. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 23:03:58 GMT -5
Clearly you haven't paid much attention to what Jackie has said over the years. She has wanted to expand her fanbase for years now as the old one has been gradually dying out. Her own mother admitted as much a few years back. Jackie has long desired to have some level of success in the pop music industry, which would mean younger crowds. She has long expressed that desire. She has also expressed a desire to be a "powerhouse", and to create an "empire" in things like make-up lines, jewelery, and such. She also gave modeling a shot, but that didn't work out for her. It's not an "integrity" thing with Jackie at all, it's a "how can I keep my career from dying on the vine as my small but loyal fan base dies off "thing". The issue has never been "integrity" with Jackie and her music...you just invented that. There was never a threat to her integrity. She has been exploring other genres, like on TMS. And then doing what she can to get new eyes one her, preferably younger eyes, and hope they "dig" her new material. That's what TMS was all about, that's what singing at the inauguration was all about...exposure in hopes of expanding that fan base. Unfortunately, none of those things have worked to any significant degree. The good news is, her base is still big enough that she can still make a living at it for years to come with smallish, but doable audiences...like at small theaters or restaurants.And by the way, I encourage Jackie constantly and nonstop on her social media. This isn't her social media, and it isnt even a fan site. It's a place to objectively discuss the good and the bad and analyze possible solutions. I agree, she needs and deserves lots of encouragement on her social media. But don't confuse that and honest and objective career analysis here on this discussion board .This is your comment that I responded to: "Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had A DECADE AGO." We all know that is not realistic. And, again it's the same old rhetoric we've heard from you repeatedly....Jackie's "dying fan base". Nothing new. And, I'm well aware of "what Jackie has said over the years." "Integrity" means not compromising herself for the sake of greater success. What further success she attains will be on her own terms, as she has said often...."I don't want to be told what to sing or how to sing it". I didn't say "encourage Jackie". I said "encourage interest in her as an artist". I see very little if any of that from you here. Perhaps you should be "honest and objective" on social media as well. Tell Jackie personally that "She can still make a living at it for years to come with smallish, but doable audiences...like at small theaters or restaurants". That's what you really think. Or, is it that you don't want to "hurt feelings or discourage her", as you said before? So, you say that kind of thing here where you suppose it doesn't get around..... "...analyze possible solutions". For who's benefit? Certainly not Jackie's, since she doesn't read comments here. As a fan, I'd leave such matters to her and her associates who are better informed of her needs and her vision for the future, and put some effort into doing something more positive and constructive like promoting her and her music. Again, nobody to my knowledge has tried to "tell Jackie what to sing and how to sing it", so the thing about her not compromising is a false premise invented in your own head. If you know of such a case, please do tell. Now, Fred at Melody place did suggest Joni Mitchell to her and she took his advice. But he didn't force her or put undue pressure her. I've never heard of anyone trying to do that to Jackie. It's a sort of straw man argument you seem to have invented to help rationalize Jackie's lack of success post' childhood fame. Honestly analyzing her career from a distance, good and bad, is what I do here. I say plenty of positive things about Jackie here, far more than negative in fact. The fact that you indicate different says to me that either you don't rerad my comments much, or you are being deliberately misleading on that point. I make most of my comments on the other discussion board, so mabye you just don't read anything over there. To who's benefit? Not to anyone's benefit necessarily, since I find it highly unlikely Jackie reads these comments. It's just analysis of her career by people who have an interest in it. It is discussion board, after all. And of course I wouldn't say anything to Jackie directly on her social media that would hurt her feelings or possibly discourage her. I'm a huge Jackie fan and she deserves love and support, even more now with the mental issues she is facing. That doesn/t however make anything I say here less true however. She knows all of this anyways, she's not stupid or oblivious. I point out the good stuff...she's had a fabulous career and if it ended tomorrow, she's had an incredible ride that most singers would kill for. She still can make a living for years to come in smallish venues (see the fall City Winery Tour upcoming), and there is nothing wrong with that. In fact its great, she can still make a living doing what she loves to do. I, and numerous other people, also point out the challenging stuff....the facts of a steady decline in her commercial success over the years, and fan base size over the years. That's not being negative, that's just fact. And re-inventing yourself in another genre after being a former child star ain't easy...in fact it's extremely difficult. That's also fact. She has tried a number of things to get huge exposure and while they haven't really had a net positive effect on her career trajectory, good for her. She should try everything she can. I think your problem is that you don't want honest analysis of her career, you just want everything to be sunshine, roses, lollypops and rainbows. lol...mabye you should find an actual fan website to gush on. Checkmate and Mic Drop!  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2022 3:17:14 GMT -5
How to support an artist who offers almost nothing, 2019 Three music videos , 2020 A music video , 2022 until now A music video on Youtube. A new concert since 2020. How do you want to support Jackie here, that is not possible, what is written here is completely pointless. Just as pointless on Youtube, Facebook, etc. Only Jackie can make a difference, but she has to offer more than before.
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Post by trebor on Aug 22, 2022 7:34:30 GMT -5
I will continue to insist that Jackie should sing Linda Ronstadt. The multiple genres that Linda and Jackie both excelled at are so much the same. Linda was only 18 when she left Tuscon for LA and made history.
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Post by lawrence on Aug 22, 2022 11:52:10 GMT -5
How to support an artist who offers almost nothing, 2019 Three music videos , 2020 A music video , 2022 until now A music video on Youtube. A new concert since 2020. How do you want to support Jackie here, that is not possible, what is written here is completely pointless. Just as pointless on Youtube, Facebook, etc. Only Jackie can make a difference, but she has to offer more than before. She has a new album coming out Sept. 9th available for pre-order. She has 3 new singles on YouTube, including the music video. She has concerts scheduled Sept 13/14th, Oct 16th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 27th and 28th. She will be on "shoptalk" Aug 31st at 8:00pm est to answer questions. You support her by promoting these things wherever possible to increase awareness. You also promote Jackie as an artist to generate interest in her. And, you encourage folks to buy the album and attend one or more of the concerts and to view the videos (views equate to album sales). I buy extra albums as gifts for those unfamiliar with Jackie. That has often brought a new fan into the community and may again. There are many ways to support Jackie if you really want to. One doesn't sit here on his butt saying it is "not possible" ....she "has to offer more". "Only Jackie can make a difference"? We all make a difference, each of us in his/her own way, unless we choose to do nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2022 12:49:08 GMT -5
How to support an artist who offers almost nothing, 2019 Three music videos , 2020 A music video , 2022 until now A music video on Youtube. A new concert since 2020. How do you want to support Jackie here, that is not possible, what is written here is completely pointless. Just as pointless on Youtube, Facebook, etc. Only Jackie can make a difference, but she has to offer more than before. She has a new album coming out Sept. 9th available for pre-order. She has 3 new singles on YouTube, including the music video. She has concerts scheduled Sept 13/14th, Oct 16th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 27th and 28th. She will be on "shoptalk" Aug 31st at 8:00pm est to answer questions. You support her by promoting these things wherever possible to increase awareness. You also promote Jackie as an artist to generate interest in her. And, you encourage folks to buy the album and attend one or more of the concerts and to view the videos (views equate to album sales). I buy extra albums as gifts for those unfamiliar with Jackie. That has often brought a new fan into the community and may again. There are many ways to support Jackie if you really want to. One doesn't sit here on his butt saying it is "not possible" ....she "has to offer more". "Only Jackie can make a difference"? We all make a difference, each of us in his/her own way, unless we choose to do nothing. I know everything you write, why do you write that. In your arrogance you might think I don't know. It's all in the future. The support only works in your imagination .Can you bring any proof that it does anything? I hope you give away lots of CD's like Len Rausch does. I've tried it, no success. Which non-Jackie fan do you want to convince here. Nobody buys an album just because you say how important you think you are. Unfortunately, I don't see any further development in Jackie's musical work at the moment. The next concerts will show if Jackie has evolved or if it's just different songs in the same system. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2022 17:57:21 GMT -5
How to support an artist who offers almost nothing, 2019 Three music videos , 2020 A music video , 2022 until now A music video on Youtube. A new concert since 2020. How do you want to support Jackie here, that is not possible, what is written here is completely pointless. Just as pointless on Youtube, Facebook, etc. Only Jackie can make a difference, but she has to offer more than before. She has a new album coming out Sept. 9th available for pre-order. She has 3 new singles on YouTube, including the music video. She has concerts scheduled Sept 13/14th, Oct 16th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 27th and 28th. She will be on "shoptalk" Aug 31st at 8:00pm est to answer questions. You support her by promoting these things wherever possible to increase awareness. You also promote Jackie as an artist to generate interest in her. And, you encourage folks to buy the album and attend one or more of the concerts and to view the videos (views equate to album sales). I buy extra albums as gifts for those unfamiliar with Jackie. That has often brought a new fan into the community and may again. There are many ways to support Jackie if you really want to. One doesn't sit here on his butt saying it is "not possible" ....she "has to offer more". "Only Jackie can make a difference"? We all make a difference, each of us in his/her own way, unless we choose to do nothing. ...and Oct 1st in Nasheville |
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Post by lawrence on Aug 22, 2022 21:02:34 GMT -5
She has a new album coming out Sept. 9th available for pre-order. She has 3 new singles on YouTube, including the music video. She has concerts scheduled Sept 13/14th, Oct 16th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 27th and 28th. She will be on "shoptalk" Aug 31st at 8:00pm est to answer questions. You support her by promoting these things wherever possible to increase awareness. You also promote Jackie as an artist to generate interest in her. And, you encourage folks to buy the album and attend one or more of the concerts and to view the videos (views equate to album sales). I buy extra albums as gifts for those unfamiliar with Jackie. That has often brought a new fan into the community and may again. There are many ways to support Jackie if you really want to. One doesn't sit here on his butt saying it is "not possible" ....she "has to offer more". "Only Jackie can make a difference"? We all make a difference, each of us in his/her own way, unless we choose to do nothing. I know everything you write, why do you write that. In your arrogance you might think I don't know. It's all in the future. The support only works in your imagination .Can you bring any proof that it does anything? I hope you give away lots of CD's like Len Rausch does. I've tried it, no success. Which non-Jackie fan do you want to convince here. Nobody buys an album just because you say how important you think you are. Unfortunately, I don't see any further development in Jackie's musical work at the moment. The next concerts will show if Jackie has evolved or if it's just different songs in the same system. You are confusing 'support" with promotion. This was my comment in reply to donkey: "...put some effort into doing something more positive and constructive like promoting her and her music." This was my reply to you: "You support her by promoting these things wherever possible to increase awareness." Definition of promotion: "activity that supports or provides active encouragement for the furtherance of a cause, venture or aim." It requires action. We can conclude from your response that you do not believe in the cause which is to "increase awareness". So, it's expected you will continue doing nothing unless or until you see "further development in Jackie's work". That's fine. Many others are enthusiastic about her music and what she's doing now, and they will do the promoting. |
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Post by rlhamil on Aug 22, 2022 23:29:18 GMT -5
Wasn't that the one that hooked up with Jerry Brown (first stretch as California governor) and roller skated through the governor's mansion? Tacky...and perhaps gullible. NOT a great example, even if her career was impressive enough. |
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Post by rlhamil on Aug 22, 2022 23:36:37 GMT -5
I know everything you write, why do you write that. In your arrogance you might think I don't know. It's all in the future. The support only works in your imagination .Can you bring any proof that it does anything? I hope you give away lots of CD's like Len Rausch does. I've tried it, no success. Which non-Jackie fan do you want to convince here. Nobody buys an album just because you say how important you think you are. Unfortunately, I don't see any further development in Jackie's musical work at the moment. The next concerts will show if Jackie has evolved or if it's just different songs in the same system. A few years ago I was sitting in an airport waiting for a plane, wearing one of the t-shirts. Someone noticed it and commented; I showed them on my tablet something that at the time was reasonably current, and looked up where and when she was performing near where they lived. I may have sold a couple of tickets. :-) Oh, and they were 30s-40s, not ancient. If you have to push, maybe nothing happens. But if you're ready and just go with it, maybe something does. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 0:55:40 GMT -5
I know everything you write, why do you write that. In your arrogance you might think I don't know. It's all in the future. The support only works in your imagination .Can you bring any proof that it does anything? I hope you give away lots of CD's like Len Rausch does. I've tried it, no success. Which non-Jackie fan do you want to convince here. Nobody buys an album just because you say how important you think you are. Unfortunately, I don't see any further development in Jackie's musical work at the moment. The next concerts will show if Jackie has evolved or if it's just different songs in the same system. A few years ago I was sitting in an airport waiting for a plane, wearing one of the t-shirts. Someone noticed it and commented; I showed them on my tablet something that at the time was reasonably current, and looked up where and when she was performing near where they lived. I may have sold a couple of tickets. :-) Oh, and they were 30s-40s, not ancient. If you have to push, maybe nothing happens. But if you're ready and just go with it, maybe something does. This is something that works because they were people who really didn't know anything about Jackie. But no people come here to the forum just by chance. If you go to a place where Jackie performs and hangs posters there, that can make a difference. But in principle, that's Jackie's job. More videos, more performances, more good videos of performances, etc.More videos, more performances, more good videos of performances, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 1:57:23 GMT -5
I know everything you write, why do you write that. In your arrogance you might think I don't know. It's all in the future. The support only works in your imagination .Can you bring any proof that it does anything? I hope you give away lots of CD's like Len Rausch does. I've tried it, no success. Which non-Jackie fan do you want to convince here. Nobody buys an album just because you say how important you think you are. Unfortunately, I don't see any further development in Jackie's musical work at the moment. The next concerts will show if Jackie has evolved or if it's just different songs in the same system. You are confusing 'support" with promotion. This was my comment in reply to donkey: "...put some effort into doing something more positive and constructive like promoting her and her music." This was my reply to you: "You support her by promoting these things wherever possible to increase awareness." Definition of promotion: "activity that supports or provides active encouragement for the furtherance of a cause, venture or aim." It requires action. We can conclude from your response that you do not believe in the cause which is to "increase awareness". So, it's expected you will continue doing nothing unless or until you see "further development in Jackie's work". That's fine. Many others are enthusiastic about her music and what she's doing now, and they will do the promoting. Your arrogant and stupid writing shows again and again what a nefarious nature is in your body. I judge Jackie's work honestly without putting on rose-colored glasses. What I've heard about Carousel of Time so far is good but not as good as it could be. It doesn't have the level I expect. There are always people who are enthusiastic, but less and less. So far, there has been no significant increase in views on Youtube or streaming platforms. Unfortunately, Jackie will continue on her old path at her concerts. Jackie always talks about how creative she is, I can't see much. |
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