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Post by msims on Aug 23, 2022 4:25:37 GMT -5
deliberately misleading on that point. Jackie is the most successful recording artist to come out of AGT and second in success as a contestant to Terry Fator who won. Just her Columbia material alone has sold over 3m+. Decreases from album to album are common in the music business. Celine Dion with her Titanic song could never recapture that amount of sales with her follow ups, Susan Boyle's album from 2019 performed similarly to The Debut (certainly not going to match IDAD sales), Groban's last album didnt chart in the B200, Adele's 25 wasn't going to sell as much as 21 regardless but it did sell alot. So why point out her decreases and especially bring up The Debut which had no label push and yet they managed to get her on AGT Champions, GMA, and the cd put in walmart stores? As far as Lisa she pushed fans including myself away (first with the Juliet stuff) and deleted the old fans proboards. Yourself and the Admin at the old amazon have pushed a number of fans away with a cooler negative campaign and I believe you are attempting to push lawrence away too. Ive brought up the term "cooler" before: "The term 'casino cooler' refers to when a casino sends around a player to join your table or join your game and throw you off." or change the luck. cooling has been done since DWM. Every artist wants new younger fans. TMS was a game show, a show you never watched, the goal was to fool the audience and the judges and impress them which she did and im still impressed by how much Chef Gordon Ramsay was impressed by her. She expressed a desire to do things but the reality is covid made touring commitments impossible, which didn't help The Debuts sales. She happened to become a fan favorite on TMS and still is. AGT Champions also helped her to prove to fans that shes the best and she recently won a poll on agt reddit as best singer, that was solely among agt fans certainly not "OTT Jackie fans" as you called them as none of them knew about the poll. There are always people who are enthusiastic, but less and less. So far, there has been no significant increase in views on Youtube or streaming platforms. Unfortunately, Jackie will continue on her old path at her concerts. This album will be marketed through her concerts and the impact will come from touring which hopefully goes into the next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 6:47:37 GMT -5
deliberately misleading on that point. Jackie is the most successful recording artist to come out of AGT and second in success as a contestant to Terry Fator who won. Just her Columbia material alone has sold over 3m+. Decreases from album to album are common in the music business. Celine Dion with her Titanic song could never recapture that amount of sales with her follow ups, Susan Boyle's album from 2019 performed similarly to The Debut (certainly not going to match IDAD sales), Groban's last album didnt chart in the B200, Adele's 25 wasn't going to sell as much as 21 regardless but it did sell alot. So why point out her decreases and especially bring up The Debut which had no label push and yet they managed to get her on AGT Champions, GMA, and the cd put in walmart stores? As far as Lisa she pushed fans including myself away (first with the Juliet stuff) and deleted the old fans proboards. Yourself and the Admin at the old amazon have pushed a number of fans away with a cooler negative campaign and I believe you are attempting to push lawrence away too. Ive brought up the term "cooler" before: "The term 'casino cooler' refers to when a casino sends around a player to join your table or join your game and throw you off." or change the luck. cooling has been done since DWM. Every artist wants new younger fans. TMS was a game show, a show you never watched, the goal was to fool the audience and the judges and impress them which she did and im still impressed by how much Chef Gordon Ramsay was impressed by her. She expressed a desire to do things but the reality is covid made touring commitments impossible, which didn't help The Debuts sales. She happened to become a fan favorite on TMS and still is. AGT Champions also helped her to prove to fans that shes the best and she recently won a poll on agt reddit as best singer, that was solely among agt fans certainly not "OTT Jackie fans" as you called them as none of them knew about the poll. There are always people who are enthusiastic, but less and less. So far, there has been no significant increase in views on Youtube or streaming platforms. Unfortunately, Jackie will continue on her old path at her concerts. This album will be marketed through her concerts and the impact will come from touring which hopefully goes into the next year. When does Jackie mention the City Winery Shows, the first one is already in 38 days. |
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Post by donkey on Aug 23, 2022 10:16:39 GMT -5
Jackie is the most successful recording artist to come out of AGT and second in success as a contestant to Terry Fator who won. Just her Columbia material alone has sold over 3m+. Decreases from album to album are common in the music business. Celine Dion with her Titanic song could never recapture that amount of sales with her follow ups, Susan Boyle's album from 2019 performed similarly to The Debut (certainly not going to match IDAD sales), Groban's last album didnt chart in the B200, Adele's 25 wasn't going to sell as much as 21 regardless but it did sell alot. So why point out her decreases and especially bring up The Debut which had no label push and yet they managed to get her on AGT Champions, GMA, and the cd put in walmart stores? As far as Lisa she pushed fans including myself away (first with the Juliet stuff) and deleted the old fans proboards. Yourself and the Admin at the old amazon have pushed a number of fans away with a cooler negative campaign and I believe you are attempting to push lawrence away too. Ive brought up the term "cooler" before: "The term 'casino cooler' refers to when a casino sends around a player to join your table or join your game and throw you off." or change the luck. cooling has been done since DWM. Every artist wants new younger fans. TMS was a game show, a show you never watched, the goal was to fool the audience and the judges and impress them which she did and im still impressed by how much Chef Gordon Ramsay was impressed by her. She expressed a desire to do things but the reality is covid made touring commitments impossible, which didn't help The Debuts sales. She happened to become a fan favorite on TMS and still is. AGT Champions also helped her to prove to fans that shes the best and she recently won a poll on agt reddit as best singer, that was solely among agt fans certainly not "OTT Jackie fans" as you called them as none of them knew about the poll. This album will be marketed through her concerts and the impact will come from touring which hopefully goes into the next year. When does Jackie mention the City Winery Shows, the first one is already in 38 days. Good question. I've wondered that myself. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 1:22:03 GMT -5
When does Jackie mention the City Winery Shows, the first one is already in 38 days. Good question. I've wondered that myself. After all, Jackie now follows the City Winery's on Instagram. In addition, Jackie follows Pia Toscano who does all that Jackie only says she wants to do it. |
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Post by msims on Aug 24, 2022 8:12:30 GMT -5
When does Jackie mention the City Winery Shows, the first one is already in 38 days. They have all been added to www.jackieevancho.com/eventsIn addition, Jackie follows Pia Toscano She has the same publicist as Jackie, filmed a pbs special too. Jackie should film a special as well, pbs is the right demographic as well for Joni songs as well as Jackie. |
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Post by lawrence on Nov 17, 2022 12:41:23 GMT -5
donkey said, "Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had a decade ago." How do you know that's her struggle? Maybe that isn't her purpose at all, knowing it's probably not possible considering all that is going against it from the industry and what she'd have to concede to if it did have an interest in her commercially? Jackie is an independent artist of integrity who cares more about recording and performing what is meaningful to her. I think some people are more concerned about what she should be doing to attain greater success than she is herself. The question is, how concerned is Jackie about "re-inventing the commercial success she had a decade ago"? Consider this discussion in interview with Lyndsey Parker two months ago....Begin at 21:12 to 26:54. At 30:53: "What else is on your bucket list"?.... "I would love to release an album of all my original material and compose it, produce it all by myself....." |
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Post by lawrence on May 3, 2023 11:43:25 GMT -5
"I'M GOING TO DO WHATEVER MY HEART TELLS ME TO DO"
April 10, 2019 -Interview on USA Today upon release of her single, "Burn":
"I basically took a really famous song and I kind of put a modern twist to it because it's basically older-fashioned, she said about her take on "Burn" before acknowledging the difficulties of winning over younger listeners with her music....."It's really fun and challenging, but it can be frustrating sometimes because when you devote yourself – I try to, at least – to making music that can reach a younger audience, it's hard when they're not listening," she said. "And it's hard to figure out how to make them listen. So honestly, I just decided that I'm going to do whatever my heart tells me to do artistically, and whoever jumps on the bandwagon will jump on the bandwagon."
April 11, 2019 -Interview on BUILD Series:
The interviewer asks, How many ideas were on the board before you landed on this concept for the album of hitting the new American Songbook....Where did that idea come from?....."This was the second idea that we had thought of. The first one was an album of Greatest Women Hits. and I still want to do that. But then I saw this and I thought, what a great idea. I've just moved to New York, I've just had the keys to the kingdom handed to me, and it's a genre that I've slowly fallen in love with and enjoyed. And, I live right there, so I thought this is perfect, I'd love to explore this world....I examined the shows and the plots and the characters. What I love about what I ended up going with was that every song, whoever sings it, it's a pivotal point in their story. I love that because I have Italian in me, I love to be passionate and really get into it. So, I think it was perfect for me."
May 6, 2020 -Kitty's First Interview Without the Mask (TMS):
"Before The Masked Singer, I had to play a role that people were used to seeing....That whole part has changed. It was very tiring and almost painful to carry around my old self all the time when there was so much more there. And, as I get older, I'm learning more that authenticity is just the best way to go through life, without caring about people's opinions. Because, at the end of the day you can always say, well, I was honest with myself."
May 11, 2020 -Interview on Entertainment Tonight:
Jackie is asked, What made you join The Masked Singer?....."It was the perfect opportunity for me to clear my slate as the girl who is 10 years old and a big singer......That was the goal of the show for me."
Jackie is asked, Do you ever fear that switching over, crossing genres, steering more towards pop will abandon those dedicated fans?....."I do fear that. I do not want to neglect those fans who have been with me from the beginning, and I will always have that love for classical crossover. It' not like that will disappear, but I hope that my fans will decide to grow with me, not against me".
Nov 11, 2020 -Jackie releases her rendition of Joni Mitchell's "River" on YouTube.
May 6, 2022 -Interview with People Magazine:
"Stepping into the world of Joni Mitchell was inspiring and a pleasure to say the least," Evancho said in a statement. "I had a lot of fun learning more about Joni Mitchell through her music, as well as finding ways to make it my own."
Sept 2, 2022 -Interview Yahoo Entertainment:
Speaking about Carousel of Time, Lindsey Parker askes Jackie if there are any other artists she would like to record for an album....."I would love to do Jim Croce's music (60s and 70s). I adore his music so much. That was an idea I actually flirted with a little bit before I chose Joni, so maybe in the future".
Lindsey asks, How do you think critics will receive Carousel of Time....How do you think it could turn some critical tides?...."I haven't even thought about that actually. My concern when I make music is always with my fans and myself. If I'm proud of the project and my fans enjoy it, that's the best I could hope for, not going to please everybody, so. Maybe there will be people putting out their opinion of the album that's negative, but that's ok, because it helps me to learn too. There's constructive criticism within SOME criticism. You have to be very careful. It's a hard thing to balance."
Lindsey says, So you've never gone into anything sort of feeling like you have something to prove to the doubters or the haters?...."Yeah, I have with Awakening. At that point in my life, I felt like I had to prove something, but that quickly faded. Now it's just doing what I love and what the fans hopefully will love too."
Sept 9, 2022 -Carousel of Time is released, a tribute to Joni Mitchell's music of the 1970s.
Dec 23, 2022 -Jackie releases a demo of her original Christmas song, "At Least I'll Have Santa".
April 13, 2023 -Celebrity Access:
"Melody Place is fast at work on a new project of original music from multi-platinum selling Jackie Evancho. The music, produced by Greg Camp (Smashmouth), is a new sound for the classically known singer. The songs are autobiographical about her dealings with mental illness."
July, 2022 -Interview with American Songwriter:
“So far, the things I’ve written are very personal,” said Evancho. “And since I’ve recently come out about my health and experiences that weren’t all good, everything I’ve written so far is just further explaining my truth. A lot of songs are a bit darker in topic, but all of them are brutally honest, but that’s where I’m at in my life right now.”
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It's apparent to me that from the time Jackie chose the material for The Debut, she has been following through with the decision she came to that "I'm going to do what my heart tells me to do artistically", not necessarily concerned with gaining popularity with a younger audience, moreover hoping that her fans will stick with her as she searches for and records music that is meaningful to her, songs she relates to personally in whatever genre and/or era she finds inspiration. It seems her primary interest at present is songwriting and recording original material.... music with "a new sound".
What does the future mean for Jackie? I expect she will continue on this independent path of authenticity as an artist, putting music out there from her heart for whomever appreciates it.
"Authenticity is the degree to which a person's actions are congruent with his or her values and desires, despite external pressures to social conformity."...."staying true to yourself."
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Post by lawrence on May 29, 2023 18:41:34 GMT -5
Jackie's schtick early in her career, was her youth! A young girl, not yet a teenager, with a voice pure as silk and singing like an adult, is what brought them to her concerts!! But, now at 23, she can't just rely on the purity of her voice! "Along with Hartlin, Melody Place is fast at work on a new project of original music from multi-platinum selling Jackie Evancho. The music, produced by Greg Camp (Smashmouth), is a new sound for the classically known singer." |
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Post by jcas on May 31, 2023 8:08:05 GMT -5
"Now if you gotta play at garden parties
I wish you a lotta luck
But if memories were all I sang
I'd rather drive a truck
And it's all right now
I learned my lesson well
See, you can't please everyone
So you got to please yourself"
Excerpts from Rick Nelson's last hit record (1972), Garden Party. I wonder if Jackie knows the song and the back story to his writing it, because it was inspired by his being booed literately off the stage during a rock-n-roll revival concert at Madison Square Garden when he began singing a country-rock song by the Rolling Stones, Country Honk, which was the style of music he'd gravitated to since his days as a teen-idol/singer song writer from the 1950/60s. The fans at that concert were expecting to hear his old stuff, like Be-Bop Baby, and rudely demanding it by booing him. This song and the reason for it immediately came to mind watching Jackie's recent interview posted above. I'm a geezer old enough to remember the incident and his song about it. Nelson and his band died tragically on New Years Eve, 1985 when his charterd plane crashed. I was a big fan of his family's 1950s TV show and his music as a kid, which I still listen to and enjoy at 79 +. Interesting how big a role his family played in his precociously early career years, as it did and still does to an extent with Jackie's. His sons Matt and Gunnar continue to sing his songs in concert, his oldies and still goodies only. Got to see them perform live a couple of years ago. They're a class act. One of their dad's last performances was in my hometown of Grand Rapids which I still regret missing because he quietly slipped into town, sans publicity, to play in a small, rather obscure lounge before an audience of regulars there and in-the-know fans. Not long after, a plane crash ended his career forever, but not the music and memories he made.
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Post by lawrence on May 31, 2023 12:34:00 GMT -5
...And it's all right now I learned my lesson well See, you can't please everyone So you got to please yourself" Excerpt from Rick Nelson's last hit record (1972), Garden Party. Jackie speaks about being true to herself. Quotes from various interviews: April 10, 2019 -Interview on USA Today "I just decided that I'm going to do whatever my heart tells me to do artistically, and whoever jumps on the bandwagon will jump on the bandwagon." May 6, 2020 -Masked Singer interview "I'm learning more that authenticity is really the best way to go through life, without caring about people's opinions. Because, at the end of the day you can always say, I was honest with myself." July, 2022 -Interview with American Songwriter "Since I’ve recently come out about my health and experiences that weren’t all good, everything I’ve written so far is just further explaining my truth. A lot of songs are a bit darker in topic, but all of them are brutally honest, but that’s where I’m at in my life right now.” Aug 31, 2022 -TalkShopLive Q & A "At this point, I'm just going to do me. I can't be anything but me, you know?" Sept 2, 2022 -Interview on Yahoo Entertainment: "My concern when I make music is always with my fans and myself. If I'm proud of the project and my fans enjoy it, that's the best I could hope for, not going to please everybody, Oct 18, 2022 -American Songwriter interview "I got tired of not being true to myself"..... It's anticipated that Jackie's next album will be entirely of her own material. It should be very revealing personally, artistically, poetically and with perhaps a somewhat different vocal style, "a new sound" as mentioned by Melody Place. It will be interesting to see what kind of response she gets to this expression of honesty and truth about herself... "Opening old wounds, but painting with the blood....making something beautiful out of something painful.", as she put it in interview with People Magazine. Who among her fans will "jump on the bandwagon" with her, and who will abandon her because she will have "grown" from her classical crossover roots to a maturity of self-expression as an artist? Some have already "booed" her for releasing Carousel of Time as a departure from what they have expected from her. And that wasn't particularly dramatic, but something that came from an inspiration to pay tribute to one of the most influential songwriters of the past century, Joni Mitchel, who wrote about "her own emotions and insights" which Jackie identifies with in a personal way. The reality is that Jackie has determined there is only one direction for her now as an artist..."I'm going to do what my heart tells me to do"....first, and foremost that is to record what is meaningful to her. My view is that fans take her as she is and for what she has to offer, or find satisfaction with those who's music is more appealing to them. She ain't the little girl who sings classical anymore, at least in a classical style. And there's no purpose in hanging around to criticize her as a disappointment. |
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Post by donkey on Jun 27, 2023 12:40:13 GMT -5
...And it's all right now I learned my lesson well See, you can't please everyone So you got to please yourself" Excerpt from Rick Nelson's last hit record (1972), Garden Party. Jackie speaks about being true to herself. Quotes from various interviews: April 10, 2019 -Interview on USA Today "I just decided that I'm going to do whatever my heart tells me to do artistically, and whoever jumps on the bandwagon will jump on the bandwagon." May 6, 2020 -Masked Singer interview "I'm learning more that authenticity is really the best way to go through life, without caring about people's opinions. Because, at the end of the day you can always say, I was honest with myself." July, 2022 -Interview with American Songwriter "Since I’ve recently come out about my health and experiences that weren’t all good, everything I’ve written so far is just further explaining my truth. A lot of songs are a bit darker in topic, but all of them are brutally honest, but that’s where I’m at in my life right now.” Aug 31, 2022 -TalkShopLive Q & A "At this point, I'm just going to do me. I can't be anything but me, you know?" Sept 2, 2022 -Interview on Yahoo Entertainment: "My concern when I make music is always with my fans and myself. If I'm proud of the project and my fans enjoy it, that's the best I could hope for, not going to please everybody, Oct 18, 2022 -American Songwriter interview "I got tired of not being true to myself"..... It's anticipated that Jackie's next album will be entirely of her own material. It should be very revealing personally, artistically, poetically and with perhaps a somewhat different vocal style, "a new sound" as mentioned by Melody Place. It will be interesting to see what kind of response she gets to this expression of honesty and truth about herself... "Opening old wounds, but painting with the blood....making something beautiful out of something painful.", as she put it in interview with People Magazine. Who among her fans will "jump on the bandwagon" with her, and who will abandon her because she will have "grown" from her classical crossover roots to a maturity of self-expression as an artist? Some have already "booed" her for releasing Carousel of Time as a departure from what they have expected from her. And that wasn't particularly dramatic, but something that came from an inspiration to pay tribute to one of the most influential songwriters of the past century, Joni Mitchel, who wrote about "her own emotions and insights" which Jackie identifies with in a personal way. The reality is that Jackie has determined there is only one direction for her now as an artist..."I'm going to do what my heart tells me to do"....first, and foremost that is to record what is meaningful to her. My view is that fans take her as she is and for what she has to offer, or find satisfaction with those who's music is more appealing to them. She ain't the little girl who sings classical anymore, at least in a classical style. And there's no purpose in hanging around to criticize her as a disappointment. Yeah, but it looks like she is going to continue to sing the old favs along with the new stuff at concerts. |
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Post by jcas on Jun 27, 2023 12:56:24 GMT -5
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