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Post by msims on Aug 23, 2022 4:25:37 GMT -5
deliberately misleading on that point. Jackie is the most successful recording artist to come out of AGT and second in success as a contestant to Terry Fator who won. Just her Columbia material alone has sold over 3m+. Decreases from album to album are common in the music business. Celine Dion with her Titanic song could never recapture that amount of sales with her follow ups, Susan Boyle's album from 2019 performed similarly to The Debut (certainly not going to match IDAD sales), Groban's last album didnt chart in the B200, Adele's 25 wasn't going to sell as much as 21 regardless but it did sell alot. So why point out her decreases and especially bring up The Debut which had no label push and yet they managed to get her on AGT Champions, GMA, and the cd put in walmart stores? As far as Lisa she pushed fans including myself away (first with the Juliet stuff) and deleted the old fans proboards. Yourself and the Admin at the old amazon have pushed a number of fans away with a cooler negative campaign and I believe you are attempting to push lawrence away too. Ive brought up the term "cooler" before: "The term 'casino cooler' refers to when a casino sends around a player to join your table or join your game and throw you off." or change the luck. cooling has been done since DWM. Every artist wants new younger fans. TMS was a game show, a show you never watched, the goal was to fool the audience and the judges and impress them which she did and im still impressed by how much Chef Gordon Ramsay was impressed by her. She expressed a desire to do things but the reality is covid made touring commitments impossible, which didn't help The Debuts sales. She happened to become a fan favorite on TMS and still is. AGT Champions also helped her to prove to fans that shes the best and she recently won a poll on agt reddit as best singer, that was solely among agt fans certainly not "OTT Jackie fans" as you called them as none of them knew about the poll. There are always people who are enthusiastic, but less and less. So far, there has been no significant increase in views on Youtube or streaming platforms. Unfortunately, Jackie will continue on her old path at her concerts. This album will be marketed through her concerts and the impact will come from touring which hopefully goes into the next year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 6:47:37 GMT -5
deliberately misleading on that point. Jackie is the most successful recording artist to come out of AGT and second in success as a contestant to Terry Fator who won. Just her Columbia material alone has sold over 3m+. Decreases from album to album are common in the music business. Celine Dion with her Titanic song could never recapture that amount of sales with her follow ups, Susan Boyle's album from 2019 performed similarly to The Debut (certainly not going to match IDAD sales), Groban's last album didnt chart in the B200, Adele's 25 wasn't going to sell as much as 21 regardless but it did sell alot. So why point out her decreases and especially bring up The Debut which had no label push and yet they managed to get her on AGT Champions, GMA, and the cd put in walmart stores? As far as Lisa she pushed fans including myself away (first with the Juliet stuff) and deleted the old fans proboards. Yourself and the Admin at the old amazon have pushed a number of fans away with a cooler negative campaign and I believe you are attempting to push lawrence away too. Ive brought up the term "cooler" before: "The term 'casino cooler' refers to when a casino sends around a player to join your table or join your game and throw you off." or change the luck. cooling has been done since DWM. Every artist wants new younger fans. TMS was a game show, a show you never watched, the goal was to fool the audience and the judges and impress them which she did and im still impressed by how much Chef Gordon Ramsay was impressed by her. She expressed a desire to do things but the reality is covid made touring commitments impossible, which didn't help The Debuts sales. She happened to become a fan favorite on TMS and still is. AGT Champions also helped her to prove to fans that shes the best and she recently won a poll on agt reddit as best singer, that was solely among agt fans certainly not "OTT Jackie fans" as you called them as none of them knew about the poll. There are always people who are enthusiastic, but less and less. So far, there has been no significant increase in views on Youtube or streaming platforms. Unfortunately, Jackie will continue on her old path at her concerts. This album will be marketed through her concerts and the impact will come from touring which hopefully goes into the next year. When does Jackie mention the City Winery Shows, the first one is already in 38 days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 10:16:39 GMT -5
Jackie is the most successful recording artist to come out of AGT and second in success as a contestant to Terry Fator who won. Just her Columbia material alone has sold over 3m+. Decreases from album to album are common in the music business. Celine Dion with her Titanic song could never recapture that amount of sales with her follow ups, Susan Boyle's album from 2019 performed similarly to The Debut (certainly not going to match IDAD sales), Groban's last album didnt chart in the B200, Adele's 25 wasn't going to sell as much as 21 regardless but it did sell alot. So why point out her decreases and especially bring up The Debut which had no label push and yet they managed to get her on AGT Champions, GMA, and the cd put in walmart stores? As far as Lisa she pushed fans including myself away (first with the Juliet stuff) and deleted the old fans proboards. Yourself and the Admin at the old amazon have pushed a number of fans away with a cooler negative campaign and I believe you are attempting to push lawrence away too. Ive brought up the term "cooler" before: "The term 'casino cooler' refers to when a casino sends around a player to join your table or join your game and throw you off." or change the luck. cooling has been done since DWM. Every artist wants new younger fans. TMS was a game show, a show you never watched, the goal was to fool the audience and the judges and impress them which she did and im still impressed by how much Chef Gordon Ramsay was impressed by her. She expressed a desire to do things but the reality is covid made touring commitments impossible, which didn't help The Debuts sales. She happened to become a fan favorite on TMS and still is. AGT Champions also helped her to prove to fans that shes the best and she recently won a poll on agt reddit as best singer, that was solely among agt fans certainly not "OTT Jackie fans" as you called them as none of them knew about the poll. This album will be marketed through her concerts and the impact will come from touring which hopefully goes into the next year. When does Jackie mention the City Winery Shows, the first one is already in 38 days. Good question. I've wondered that myself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 1:22:03 GMT -5
When does Jackie mention the City Winery Shows, the first one is already in 38 days. Good question. I've wondered that myself. After all, Jackie now follows the City Winery's on Instagram. In addition, Jackie follows Pia Toscano who does all that Jackie only says she wants to do it.
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Post by msims on Aug 24, 2022 8:12:30 GMT -5
When does Jackie mention the City Winery Shows, the first one is already in 38 days. They have all been added to www.jackieevancho.com/eventsIn addition, Jackie follows Pia Toscano She has the same publicist as Jackie, filmed a pbs special too. Jackie should film a special as well, pbs is the right demographic as well for Joni songs as well as Jackie.
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Post by lawrence on Nov 17, 2022 12:41:23 GMT -5
donkey said, "Her struggle is to re-invent the commercial success as an artist that she once had a decade ago." How do you know that's her struggle? Maybe that isn't her purpose at all, knowing it's probably not possible considering all that is going against it from the industry and what she'd have to concede to if it did have an interest in her commercially? Jackie is an independent artist of integrity who cares more about recording and performing what is meaningful to her. I think some people are more concerned about what she should be doing to attain greater success than she is herself. The question is, how concerned is Jackie about "re-inventing the commercial success she had a decade ago"? Consider this discussion in interview with Lyndsey Parker two months ago....Begin at 21:12 to 26:54. At 30:53: "What else is on your bucket list"?.... "I would love to release an album of all my original material and compose it, produce it all by myself....."
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Post by lawrence on May 3, 2023 11:43:25 GMT -5
"I'M GOING TO DO WHATEVER MY HEART TELLS ME TO DO"
April 10, 2019 -Interview on USA Today upon release of her single, "Burn":
"I basically took a really famous song and I kind of put a modern twist to it because it's basically older-fashioned, she said about her take on "Burn" before acknowledging the difficulties of winning over younger listeners with her music....."It's really fun and challenging, but it can be frustrating sometimes because when you devote yourself – I try to, at least – to making music that can reach a younger audience, it's hard when they're not listening," she said. "And it's hard to figure out how to make them listen. So honestly, I just decided that I'm going to do whatever my heart tells me to do artistically, and whoever jumps on the bandwagon will jump on the bandwagon."
April 11, 2019 -Interview on BUILD Series:
The interviewer asks, How many ideas were on the board before you landed on this concept for the album of hitting the new American Songbook....Where did that idea come from?....."This was the second idea that we had thought of. The first one was an album of Greatest Women Hits. and I still want to do that. But then I saw this and I thought, what a great idea. I've just moved to New York, I've just had the keys to the kingdom handed to me, and it's a genre that I've slowly fallen in love with and enjoyed. And, I live right there, so I thought this is perfect, I'd love to explore this world....I examined the shows and the plots and the characters. What I love about what I ended up going with was that every song, whoever sings it, it's a pivotal point in their story. I love that because I have Italian in me, I love to be passionate and really get into it. So, I think it was perfect for me."
May 6, 2020 -Kitty's First Interview Without the Mask (TMS):
"Before The Masked Singer, I had to play a role that people were used to seeing....That whole part has changed. It was very tiring and almost painful to carry around my old self all the time when there was so much more there. And, as I get older, I'm learning more that authenticity is just the best way to go through life, without caring about people's opinions. Because, at the end of the day you can always say, well, I was honest with myself."
May 11, 2020 -Interview on Entertainment Tonight:
Jackie is asked, What made you join The Masked Singer?....."It was the perfect opportunity for me to clear my slate as the girl who is 10 years old and a big singer......That was the goal of the show for me."
Jackie is asked, Do you ever fear that switching over, crossing genres, steering more towards pop will abandon those dedicated fans?....."I do fear that. I do not want to neglect those fans who have been with me from the beginning, and I will always have that love for classical crossover. It' not like that will disappear, but I hope that my fans will decide to grow with me, not against me".
Nov 11, 2020 -Jackie releases her rendition of Joni Mitchell's "River" on YouTube.
May 6, 2022 -Interview with People Magazine:
"Stepping into the world of Joni Mitchell was inspiring and a pleasure to say the least," Evancho said in a statement. "I had a lot of fun learning more about Joni Mitchell through her music, as well as finding ways to make it my own."
Sept 2, 2022 -Interview Yahoo Entertainment:
Speaking about Carousel of Time, Lindsey Parker askes Jackie if there are any other artists she would like to record for an album....."I would love to do Jim Croce's music (60s and 70s). I adore his music so much. That was an idea I actually flirted with a little bit before I chose Joni, so maybe in the future".
Lindsey asks, How do you think critics will receive Carousel of Time....How do you think it could turn some critical tides?...."I haven't even thought about that actually. My concern when I make music is always with my fans and myself. If I'm proud of the project and my fans enjoy it, that's the best I could hope for, not going to please everybody, so. Maybe there will be people putting out their opinion of the album that's negative, but that's ok, because it helps me to learn too. There's constructive criticism within SOME criticism. You have to be very careful. It's a hard thing to balance."
Lindsey says, So you've never gone into anything sort of feeling like you have something to prove to the doubters or the haters?...."Yeah, I have with Awakening. At that point in my life, I felt like I had to prove something, but that quickly faded. Now it's just doing what I love and what the fans hopefully will love too."
Sept 9, 2022 -Carousel of Time is released, a tribute to Joni Mitchell's music of the 1970s.
Dec 23, 2022 -Jackie releases a demo of her original Christmas song, "At Least I'll Have Santa".
April 13, 2023 -Celebrity Access:
"Melody Place is fast at work on a new project of original music from multi-platinum selling Jackie Evancho. The music, produced by Greg Camp (Smashmouth), is a new sound for the classically known singer. The songs are autobiographical about her dealings with mental illness."
July, 2022 -Interview with American Songwriter:
“So far, the things I’ve written are very personal,” said Evancho. “And since I’ve recently come out about my health and experiences that weren’t all good, everything I’ve written so far is just further explaining my truth. A lot of songs are a bit darker in topic, but all of them are brutally honest, but that’s where I’m at in my life right now.”
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It's apparent to me that from the time Jackie chose the material for The Debut, she has been following through with the decision she came to that "I'm going to do what my heart tells me to do artistically", not necessarily concerned with gaining popularity with a younger audience, moreover hoping that her fans will stick with her as she searches for and records music that is meaningful to her, songs she relates to personally in whatever genre and/or era she finds inspiration. It seems her primary interest at present is songwriting and recording original material.... music with "a new sound".
What does the future mean for Jackie? I expect she will continue on this independent path of authenticity as an artist, putting music out there from her heart for whomever appreciates it. "Authenticity is the degree to which a person's actions are congruent with his or her values and desires, despite external pressures to social conformity."...."staying true to yourself."
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Post by lawrence on May 29, 2023 18:41:34 GMT -5
Jackie's schtick early in her career, was her youth! A young girl, not yet a teenager, with a voice pure as silk and singing like an adult, is what brought them to her concerts!! But, now at 23, she can't just rely on the purity of her voice! "Along with Hartlin, Melody Place is fast at work on a new project of original music from multi-platinum selling Jackie Evancho. The music, produced by Greg Camp (Smashmouth), is a new sound for the classically known singer."
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Post by jcas on May 31, 2023 8:08:05 GMT -5
"Now if you gotta play at garden parties I wish you a lotta luck But if memories were all I sang I'd rather drive a truck
And it's all right now I learned my lesson well See, you can't please everyone So you got to please yourself"
Excerpts from Rick Nelson's last hit record (1972), Garden Party. I wonder if Jackie knows the song and the back story to his writing it, because it was inspired by his being booed literately off the stage during a rock-n-roll revival concert at Madison Square Garden when he began singing a country-rock song by the Rolling Stones, Country Honk, which was the style of music he'd gravitated to since his days as a teen-idol/singer song writer from the 1950/60s. The fans at that concert were expecting to hear his old stuff, like Be-Bop Baby, and rudely demanding it by booing him. This song and the reason for it immediately came to mind watching Jackie's recent interview posted above. I'm a geezer old enough to remember the incident and his song about it. Nelson and his band died tragically on New Years Eve, 1985 when his charterd plane crashed. I was a big fan of his family's 1950s TV show and his music as a kid, which I still listen to and enjoy at 79 +. Interesting how big a role his family played in his precociously early career years, as it did and still does to an extent with Jackie's. His sons Matt and Gunnar continue to sing his songs in concert, his oldies and still goodies only. Got to see them perform live a couple of years ago. They're a class act. One of their dad's last performances was in my hometown of Grand Rapids which I still regret missing because he quietly slipped into town, sans publicity, to play in a small, rather obscure lounge before an audience of regulars there and in-the-know fans. Not long after, a plane crash ended his career forever, but not the music and memories he made.
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Post by lawrence on May 31, 2023 12:34:00 GMT -5
...And it's all right now I learned my lesson well See, you can't please everyone So you got to please yourself" Excerpt from Rick Nelson's last hit record (1972), Garden Party. Jackie speaks about being true to herself. Quotes from various interviews: April 10, 2019 -Interview on USA Today "I just decided that I'm going to do whatever my heart tells me to do artistically, and whoever jumps on the bandwagon will jump on the bandwagon." May 6, 2020 -Masked Singer interview "I'm learning more that authenticity is really the best way to go through life, without caring about people's opinions. Because, at the end of the day you can always say, I was honest with myself." July, 2022 -Interview with American Songwriter "Since I’ve recently come out about my health and experiences that weren’t all good, everything I’ve written so far is just further explaining my truth. A lot of songs are a bit darker in topic, but all of them are brutally honest, but that’s where I’m at in my life right now.” Aug 31, 2022 -TalkShopLive Q & A "At this point, I'm just going to do me. I can't be anything but me, you know?" Sept 2, 2022 -Interview on Yahoo Entertainment: "My concern when I make music is always with my fans and myself. If I'm proud of the project and my fans enjoy it, that's the best I could hope for, not going to please everybody, Oct 18, 2022 -American Songwriter interview "I got tired of not being true to myself"..... It's anticipated that Jackie's next album will be entirely of her own material. It should be very revealing personally, artistically, poetically and with perhaps a somewhat different vocal style, "a new sound" as mentioned by Melody Place. It will be interesting to see what kind of response she gets to this expression of honesty and truth about herself... "Opening old wounds, but painting with the blood....making something beautiful out of something painful.", as she put it in interview with People Magazine. Who among her fans will "jump on the bandwagon" with her, and who will abandon her because she will have "grown" from her classical crossover roots to a maturity of self-expression as an artist? Some have already "booed" her for releasing Carousel of Time as a departure from what they have expected from her. And that wasn't particularly dramatic, but something that came from an inspiration to pay tribute to one of the most influential songwriters of the past century, Joni Mitchel, who wrote about "her own emotions and insights" which Jackie identifies with in a personal way. The reality is that Jackie has determined there is only one direction for her now as an artist..."I'm going to do what my heart tells me to do"....first, and foremost that is to record what is meaningful to her. My view is that fans take her as she is and for what she has to offer, or find satisfaction with those who's music is more appealing to them. She ain't the little girl who sings classical anymore, at least in a classical style. And there's no purpose in hanging around to criticize her as a disappointment.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 12:40:13 GMT -5
...And it's all right now I learned my lesson well See, you can't please everyone So you got to please yourself" Excerpt from Rick Nelson's last hit record (1972), Garden Party. Jackie speaks about being true to herself. Quotes from various interviews: April 10, 2019 -Interview on USA Today "I just decided that I'm going to do whatever my heart tells me to do artistically, and whoever jumps on the bandwagon will jump on the bandwagon." May 6, 2020 -Masked Singer interview "I'm learning more that authenticity is really the best way to go through life, without caring about people's opinions. Because, at the end of the day you can always say, I was honest with myself." July, 2022 -Interview with American Songwriter "Since I’ve recently come out about my health and experiences that weren’t all good, everything I’ve written so far is just further explaining my truth. A lot of songs are a bit darker in topic, but all of them are brutally honest, but that’s where I’m at in my life right now.” Aug 31, 2022 -TalkShopLive Q & A "At this point, I'm just going to do me. I can't be anything but me, you know?" Sept 2, 2022 -Interview on Yahoo Entertainment: "My concern when I make music is always with my fans and myself. If I'm proud of the project and my fans enjoy it, that's the best I could hope for, not going to please everybody, Oct 18, 2022 -American Songwriter interview "I got tired of not being true to myself"..... It's anticipated that Jackie's next album will be entirely of her own material. It should be very revealing personally, artistically, poetically and with perhaps a somewhat different vocal style, "a new sound" as mentioned by Melody Place. It will be interesting to see what kind of response she gets to this expression of honesty and truth about herself... "Opening old wounds, but painting with the blood....making something beautiful out of something painful.", as she put it in interview with People Magazine. Who among her fans will "jump on the bandwagon" with her, and who will abandon her because she will have "grown" from her classical crossover roots to a maturity of self-expression as an artist? Some have already "booed" her for releasing Carousel of Time as a departure from what they have expected from her. And that wasn't particularly dramatic, but something that came from an inspiration to pay tribute to one of the most influential songwriters of the past century, Joni Mitchel, who wrote about "her own emotions and insights" which Jackie identifies with in a personal way. The reality is that Jackie has determined there is only one direction for her now as an artist..."I'm going to do what my heart tells me to do"....first, and foremost that is to record what is meaningful to her. My view is that fans take her as she is and for what she has to offer, or find satisfaction with those who's music is more appealing to them. She ain't the little girl who sings classical anymore, at least in a classical style. And there's no purpose in hanging around to criticize her as a disappointment. Yeah, but it looks like she is going to continue to sing the old favs along with the new stuff at concerts.
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Post by geb on Dec 1, 2023 20:28:29 GMT -5
To me it seems like a confluence of many factors from roughly 2015 to 2021 contributed to Jackie's mental and physical issues, and eventually helped to form Jackie's present career directions.
First Jackie performed at the new President's inauguration in January 2017 after many other artists refused. The nation had become polarized along political lines. What had been an honor got recast to a political statement. And Jackie, unfortunately, got caught in the crosshairs of this battle between two different societal philosophies.
At the same time in 2017, Jackie was losing a brother and gaining a sister.
Her parents were having issues that eventually led to divorce, and each starting to see other people.
Jackie's first significant foray into the pop genre in 2015 as a 15-year old was not a big success with her release of the song and music video for Apocalypse.
Rumblings of issues were starting to show-up with her song Pedestal, an original song released in 2017 that Jackie co-wrote about people putting one on a pedestal that does not represent one's feelings.
Jackie, as a child, once said her favorite meal was steak. Then something happened and Jackie started developing anorexia in 2015 at the age of 15. Unfortunately, a self-imposed and unrealistic belief that her body was not good, led to this dangerous eating disorder that to this day Jackie has said she is fighting to beat. And the consequences have led to, per Jackie, osteoporosis that is caused by low calcium intake that contributes to diminished bone density, early bone loss and an increased risk of fractures. She has said that she has the bones of an 80-year old.
Next we have Growing Up Evancho, a failed 2017 TLC reality TV show: "Lisa and Mike Evancho, the parents of 17-year-old platinum-selling artist Jackie Evancho, as well as Juliet, Zach and Rachel, navigate life with a superstar kid, a transgender daughter and two younger children."
The purchase of a new house (that some people called a mansion), eventually gets reversed and sold as the parents divorce and go their separate ways, and the children get older and begin to go their own paths.
I remember Jackie proudly showing off her new car. Little did she know that in January 2021 she would be in a car accident and break her back. This led her to have to concentrate on her health, which ironically, was just what she needed to start to reverse the negative health trend she was careening down.
In 2018, Jackie, as an 18-year old, got invited to America's Got Talent - The Champions first season and sang a cutdown version of Music of the Night. Unfortunately, Jackie did not get past this one performance and got eliminated in the first round.
Jackie was also working on her album, The Debut, that consisted of songs from Broadway musicals and musical films. It was released on April 12, 2019, and became her 8th consecutive #1 album on the Billboard Classical Albums chart. It was released under her label JE Touring. In support of the album, Jackie also released the music video for Burn from the musical Hamilton. I thought it was a great video. Jackie also started a tour in support of the album. However, from what I understand, at that time, this was Jackie's worse selling studio produced album.
Jackie was also performing in smaller and smaller size venues than when she started touring in 2010 after being on America's Got Talent. In other words, career-wise, and health-wise, things were going in the wrong direction. Whether Jackie recognized this consciously is unknown. It is unknown if this reversal of fortunes was having any mental effects on Jackie, as she already had plenty on her plate already.
Jackie did have one big break occur in late 2019. Namely she became Kitty on the hit TV show, The Masked Singer. The show was shown in the first half of 2020. And Kitty became very popular. Jackie was eliminated in the quarterfinals, placing fifth. Many thought she should have not been eliminated, but it happened.
Again, misfortune followed Jackie as COVID had hit and everything came to a screeching halt. Concerts cancelled left and right. Lockdowns. The big success with Kitty could not be followed-up. So sad.
However, Jackie is a fighter. And now is making inroads to fixing her health issues. Mentally she appears to me to be stronger. As for her career, Jackie made the decision to move toward Independent pop. She said Classical Crossover is still in her heart, but she decided to move in another direction.
She has released several songs from her upcoming EP. The EP itself is set to be released in early 2024.
Jackie recently admitted that she was pretty naive when it comes to effectively using social media in today's world. She is trying, but does have a long way to go.
I have always said, and to this day still believe, that Jackie was done a big disservice by not building up her social media while she was beginning to build her career after appearing on AGT in 2010. People have given the excuse that the labels she was with did not think it was that important. BIG MISTAKE!
- Pentatonix has become massive with over 20.1 million YouTube subscribers, has won Grammy Awards, and routinely performs to sold-out crowds in venues bigger than those that Jackie performed in during her heydays - Lindsey Stirling, who was also on 2010 AGT with Jackie, is massive with over 13.7 million YouTube subscribers, has won YouTube awards, and routinely performs to sold-out crowds in venues bigger than those that Jackie performed in during her heydays - Postmodern Jukebox has almost 6.1 million YouTube subscribers - The Piano Guys has almost 7.1 million YouTube subscribers - Grace VanderWaal, a singer who won AGT as a 12-year old and is now 19-years old, has almost 3.7 million YouTube subscribers - Darci Lynne, a singer/ventriloquist who won AGT as a 12-year old and is now 19-years old, has over 1.1 million YouTube subscribers - Peter Hollens has almost 3.2 million YouTube subscribers
And Jackie had an inroad to bigger and better things on social media when she performed Hallelujah with Peter Hollens in a December 5, 2014 released YouTube video. It actually briefly went viral. That opening was ignored even though Lindsey Stirling had by this time done two videos with Peter in 2012 (together have over 100 million views), had done another video with Peter in 2013 (that has about 3.5 million more views than the Hallelujah video), had won in 2013 a YouTube Award and a Streamy Award, for 2014 was to be nominated for a Billboard Award, a Teen Choice Award, and win a German Echo Music Award and win the Streamy Award for Best Musical Artist, and was starting to have explosive growth of her fanbase. Whomever advised Jackie to not do more on social media in 2015 made a massive mistake of giving very BAD advice. And Jackie is now belatedly trying to build up her social media presence, literally now starting out millions of subscribers behind her contemporaries.
Fortunately, Jackie does still have some connections in the entertainment world. But at 23-years old, in a dog-eat-dog industry, she has a bigger mountain to climb than, in my opinion, she should have had to climb to get broader recognition, similar to what she had in 2010 and 2011.
As the saying goes, only time will say how successful Jackie will be and whether or not she will equal, or exceed, her past accomplishments with the new career direction she has decided to move into.
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Post by lawrence on Dec 2, 2023 1:42:14 GMT -5
Jackie has set a career path in her own best interest and on her terms. She is freeing herself from the demands and pressures imposed upon her by those in the industry whose unrealistic expectations of "perfection" have contributed to her eating disorder and mental issues, effectively telling those whom she holds responsible to "Get Out of My Life....You make me sick"! She is done with being told what to do, what to sing, how to look and how to behave in favor of doing what is most meaningful to her, pleasing herself instead of others and being authentic, regardless that it may not be seen as "perfect". Got to admire her integrity and courage in confronting her "demons" and not surrendering to the industry regardless of the cost to her career.
Jackie's life-threatening bout with anorexia and associated mental illness, further exacerbated by extenuating circumstances, in late 2020 was a decisive turning point in her life and career. It was a scary time, genuinely fearful of losing her mind...."I've been gettin' kinda scared and feeling unprepared for what's to come"....also afraid of the consequences of having to make a "permanent decision"....."consequences filling up my mind". Furthermore, much had gone against her, having lost a number of fans who condemned her for supporting her transgender sister and having performed for the 2017 inauguration and those who would not accept her ventures into other genres, missed promotional opportunities, and subsequently having been castigated by the demanding (pseudo) fans who accused her of abandoning them...."You don't care about us, you lie when you say you love us", and other self-centered nonsense that was very hurtful to her. I'm certain she suffered immeasurably through that year, and still suffers though to a lesser degree, not just physically but psychologically and emotionally. How was she to maintain her sanity while also dealing with the unfortunate physical complications and effects of her eating disorder?
During that time, songwriting was Jackie's life-line to sanity, and remains so, a means of letting out the multitude of feelings bottled up inside to relieve the anxieties and fears that have plagued her. One can imagine how important writing and composing her own music has become to her, not only essential to her mental well-being...."this therapeutic endeavor of mine".....but "something I've wanted to do for as long as I can remember".... "where all the true passion is for me". It represents a new and total freedom of creative expression as well as a means to healing the damage to her psyche. She isn't taking this path to gain popularity as much as writing and composing her own music is the avenue to becoming healthier mentally.
It's apparent that competing in this "dog-eat-dog industry" is not her objective, Rather as she said, "When I make music, my concern is always with my fans and myself. If I'm proud of the project and my fans enjoy it, that's the best I can hope for". So what if she performs in smaller venues and not as often? So what if she doesn't top the charts again, or attain the social media popularity of her supposed competition? Some choose to "follow a winner", and they are free to do that if Jackie's music doesn't measure up to being worthy of their admiration. However, as Jackie says, "Those who want to jump on the bandwagon will jump on the bandwagon". The question is not whether she will equal or exceed her past accomplishments, which is very unlikely anyway. Rather, the pertinent question is, who here is on the bandwagon, promoting and supporting her songwriting endeavor?
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Post by geb on Dec 3, 2023 1:34:07 GMT -5
Lawrence, I am sure Jackie knows that the entertainment business is not easy, and dog-eat-dog among its characteristics. After all, she had to live through it as a young girl and teenager, and ended up suffering, both healthwise and mentally.
She also had to live through significant upheavals in her family.
Just because millions of people prefer another artist over Jackie really has little to do with jumping upon a bandwagon. A person is allowed to like someone's singing or acting or whatever over another. We had a family friend who only liked male opera singers because to him, female opera singers sounded like high pitched screeching. Another friend only liked jazz singers who were at least 30-years old, and had many life experiences, that he believed would allow them to sing a song with the "proper" feeling. Different people inevitably have different likes and dislikes. It is part of being human.
And humans being humans, sometimes things that have literally nothing to do with the artist's talent, cause them to suddenly "hate" that artist. This seems to have become more prevalent in today's world where political/social beliefs are even dividing families and supposed long-time close friends.
I remember people in the past saying that Jackie may eventually hit the proverbial brick wall and her career would reach a certain level, and just stay there. She would not become a mega-star. However, she would be able to do what she loves, and still make a decent living. Very few get to the pinnacle of the entertainment industry. It is what it is.
And hopefully, some of the money Jackie made in the past has been put into retirement accounts, and other investments, so that some sort of cushion exists, so Jackie can do what she loves. However, she still needs to make a living rather than draw down upon whatever cushion she may have. Hopefully, she is generating enough income to live as she presently wants to live, with maybe a little left over for investing into her future. In theory, Jackie appeared to be generating enough cash flows in the past to have had competent financial advisors invest some of this money into retirement and investment programs that by the time Jackie is wanting to retire could be worth millions and she could retire to a comfortable life, if she desires to do so.
My old brother-in-law is in that category. He started out as a teenager with great aspirations. However, his talent took him only so far. But, he has made a decent living performing gigs, doing songwriting, and producing music in his small studio in New York. He has been invited to play with some of the greats. The Allman Brothers Band, Gov't Mule, Warren Haynes, GE Smith (Hall & Oates and Roger Waters' The Wall Live tour), Jim Weider (The Band), Donald Fagen (Steely Dan), The Levon Helm Band, Bob Telson, Rosanne Cash, Michael McDonald (The Doobie Brothers), Boz Scaggs, and many others. He is a great bassist. However, not at the top of the list of great bassists. He is fine with that as he has been able to have a good career, make decent money, and do what he loves. I will be seeing him again perform with GE Smith and Jim Weider this coming February 2024. It is kinda nice to get free tickets and backstage passes. Two of my kids got really excited when I got backstage passes for The Allman Brothers Band, and we were watching them perform from the side stage, and got to tour their bus, and got a free barbeque steak meal. Ah, the perks of being related to a top shelf musician.
However, the future is unknown and who knows, Jackie may end up writing one or more songs that turn into hits, whether hers or by someone else. Only time will tell.
As for supporting Jackie, jumping on a bandwagon is not my idea of that.
I will support a song I like. From my point-of-view, Behind My Eyes and Get Out Of My Life are wonderful songs. I have forwarded both to dozens of my friends. Unfortunately, at least among my friends, I am the only one who calls them wonderful songs.
I also like Jackie's Christmas song, At Least I Have Santa, although there is something about it that is missing that I just seem not to be able to put my finger upon. Maybe it will hit me one day what it is.
I feel one must be honest with people, so not matter who asks, including Jackie, I will say that I am not crazy about her song Consequences. Just does not strike me in an exciting way.
I read and comment on Jackie's social media when I feel the urge, and twice she has thanked me for my comments. This does tell me that Jackie is now being diligent with her social media, and at least scans the comments, and is willing to interact with her fans. To me, that is a big positive that in the distant past did not, or was not allowed to, happen.
If Jackie has a concert in my area, as I always have done for every concert she had in my area since 2010, I will go, and do my best to get up front tickets.
I participated in Jackie's last online fan interaction. It was interesting although Sanborn McGraw, the Melody Place President / General Manager, seemed to be hogging the conversation more than I would have liked.
The bottom line is that each person supports the artists they like in whatever way feels comfortable to them. And that is perfectly fine with me, as it is not for me, or anyone else, to tell someone how they should do their support for an artist.
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