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Post by lawrence on Jul 18, 2022 6:30:48 GMT -5
Yes it did. I followed Reddit and they were very upset when she left the show. Many considered her a favorite as well. With regard to Jackie's popularity as "Kitty", I followed the YouTube comments on all her performances as she season progressed. By the time she was unmasked in the quarter-finals, the combined views of each episode had surpassed that of any of the finalists with over 3M total views. Her Dangerous Woman performance alone had nearly 1.4M views with 98% likes, 3 times that of the most popular performance by the winner. It was mysteriously removed from YouTube the day before the finale while all other performance videos remained several weeks after the season's end. By all accounts, Kitty was the most popular performer of the season with the TV/YouTube audience. Countless comments were posted by professed new fans of Jackie Evancho. Her YouTube subscriptions had increased significantly and continued steadily in the months following. And, the views on the video, "Masked Singer -The Kitty Performances and Reveal" have continually increased to 785K at present. It's very unfortunate that the pandemic put a halt to concert tours for artists around the nation and Jackie was unable to capitalize on her success as "kitty". She had found what she called, 'a path I can go through to get to what I want" that suddenly she was unable to follow.
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Post by msims on Jul 18, 2022 6:46:10 GMT -5
Yes it did. I followed Reddit and they were very upset when she left the show. Many considered her a favorite as well. With regard to Jackie's popularity as "Kitty", I followed the YouTube comments on all her performances as she season progressed. By the time she was unmasked in the quarter-finals, the combined views of each episode had surpassed that of any of the finalists with over 3M total views. Her Dangerous Woman performance alone had nearly 1.4M views with 98% likes, 3 times that of the most popular performance by the winner. It was mysteriously removed from YouTube the day before the finale while all other performance videos remained several weeks after the season's end. By all accounts, Kitty was the most popular performer of the season with the TV/YouTube audience. Countless comments were posted by professed new fans of Jackie Evancho. Her YouTube subscriptions had increased significantly and continued steadily in the months following. And, the views on the video, "Masked Singer -The Kitty Performances and Reveal" have continually increased to 785K at present. It's very unfortunate that the pandemic put a halt to concert tours for artists around the nation and Jackie was unable to capitalize on her success as "kitty". She had found what she called, 'a path I can go through to get to what I want" that suddenly she was unable to follow. Just the comments alone under that video you mentioned and others, as well as reddit disproves the theory that once she was unmasked, that there was no more interest. She trended on google with 200,000 google searches after the unmasking as well. The pandemic did stop any plans to tour or do anything further other than instagram covers, but im always optimistic that something else might happen in the future with the show or with AGT, where shes literally an Icon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 9:34:06 GMT -5
Yes it did. I followed Reddit and they were very upset when she left the show. Many considered her a favorite as well. With regard to Jackie's popularity as "Kitty", I followed the YouTube comments on all her performances as she season progressed. By the time she was unmasked in the quarter-finals, the combined views of each episode had surpassed that of any of the finalists with over 3M total views. Her Dangerous Woman performance alone had nearly 1.4M views with 98% likes, 3 times that of the most popular performance by the winner. It was mysteriously removed from YouTube the day before the finale while all other performance videos remained several weeks after the season's end. By all accounts, Kitty was the most popular performer of the season with the TV/YouTube audience. Countless comments were posted by professed new fans of Jackie Evancho. Her YouTube subscriptions had increased significantly and continued steadily in the months following. And, the views on the video, "Masked Singer -The Kitty Performances and Reveal" have continually increased to 785K at present. It's very unfortunate that the pandemic put a halt to concert tours for artists around the nation and Jackie was unable to capitalize on her success as "kitty". She had found what she called, 'a path I can go through to get to what I want" that suddenly she was unable to follow. The most popular and most popular participant in season 3 was Turtle. Jackie's Youtube subscribers went up the same way before and after. Masked singer did not have much influence on Youtube, as Jackie did not deliver anything on Youtube. You can't blame the pandemic, because other artists have shown that it's possible. The only significant increase was on Instagram. Why doesn't Jackie make music for these fans now, but only for older fans? These are the questions that need to be asked. Where is Jackie's musical development going, what comes after "Carousel of Time". What kind of songs are Jackie currently working on? And to what extent is Jackie able to plan concerts at all?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 9:43:47 GMT -5
Look, Jackie was very successful early in her career, in few years immediately following AGT...she sold a lot of albums and made a lot of money. These days not so much. Im sure it was a tough pill to swallow in writing that she made alot of money. Much of those albums sales in excess of 3 million+ came from casual buyers, gift purchases, impulse buys from off the shelf purchases and tons and tons of her performing on tv. So its just a theory that she started off with a million fans and its down to a small amount. She and other artists have always made a living from performing concerts. Then you wouldn't be attacking her/her fans, attacking her along with other haters, as well as lying. The Debut and Two Hearts didnt have pbs specials. Subo who is still with Columbia had similar sales. Coming off a viral audition and the highest rated episode of AGT ever which was the 2010 Finale. Going on Leno and then Oprah who was very complimentary. She had a massive push. CC in the early 2000's was highly successful and mainstream, so she did very very well and regardless whether her last albums or current album does, she is still the most successful recording artist that AGT launched and most influential contestant of all time as they still bring in child singers, child opera singers, opera singers every season. An actual fan would celebrate her all the time. The question is why do you post about Jackie if you hate her so much? Oh, and Jackie's appearance on TMS was a great opportunity at national exposure, but unfortunately it doesn't gain her very many new fans. Yes it did. I followed Reddit and they were very upset when she left the show. Many considered her a favorite as well. Thats the entire point and premise of the show.No it isn't. She is still a favorite of past costumes on TMS reddit. One of her biggest fans was Chef Gordon Ramsay who judged her and is the biggest celebrity chef! "An actual fan would celebrate her all the time. The question is why do you post about Jackie if you hate her so much?" This stupid statement is typical of stupid fans. If you want to support Jackie you have to make objective statements. If you don't like something or something goes wrong, you say it. This is the only way to create success. Negative feedback is not hate. Criticism is not hate. It must be clear to everyone that a lot has gone wrong with Jackie in recent years. That has to be said. Because the alternative is simple, if nothing went wrong then Jackie is simply not good enough to be successful.
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Post by lawrence on Jul 18, 2022 13:08:02 GMT -5
Masked singer did not have much influence on Youtube, as Jackie did not deliver anything on Youtube. I said the "TV/YouTube audience", which is understood to mean that, unlike the studio audience in real time, the TV audience could only respond to the performances on YouTube videos uploaded after after the season was filmed. The number of views, the number of "Likes" and the nature of the comments reflect the TV audience response to each performance. Ex. 1.4M views with 98% Likes on "Dangerous Woman" indicates a significant interest and overwhelming approval. There was a significant difference between the predetermined studio audience response and the response from the public at large. You can't blame the pandemic, because other artists have shown that it's possible. She had only 3 concerts after performing on Masked Singer. She couldn't even refer to "Kitty" because the season was not over and she was bound by a non-disclosure agreement. Then she began recording the new album. 6 months after TMS was aired (the pandemic continuing) she had a serious bout with anorexia together with the car accident that put her out of commission for a year. She hadn't had a reasonable chance to capitalize on "Kitty" in concert. Why doesn't Jackie make music for these fans now, but only for older fans? Jackie makes music she wants to make. Those who like it buy it and/or show their approval through YouTube comments, likes and subscriptions. An increase in subscriptions indicates an increased interest. We don't know what demographic it represent and it doesn't matter. It could be in part a reflection of interest gained from Masked Singer, and in part her release of "River" 5 months later in Oct, 2020. Something accounts for an increase of an estimated 17k since Masked Singer. Subscriptions have increased another 1K in the last month.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 13:20:42 GMT -5
Look, Jackie was very successful early in her career, in few years immediately following AGT...she sold a lot of albums and made a lot of money. These days not so much. Im sure it was a tough pill to swallow in writing that she made alot of money. Much of those albums sales in excess of 3 million+ came from casual buyers, gift purchases, impulse buys from off the shelf purchases and tons and tons of her performing on tv. So its just a theory that she started off with a million fans and its down to a small amount. She and other artists have always made a living from performing concerts. Then you wouldn't be attacking her/her fans, attacking her along with other haters, as well as lying. The Debut and Two Hearts didnt have pbs specials. Subo who is still with Columbia had similar sales. Coming off a viral audition and the highest rated episode of AGT ever which was the 2010 Finale. Going on Leno and then Oprah who was very complimentary. She had a massive push. CC in the early 2000's was highly successful and mainstream, so she did very very well and regardless whether her last albums or current album does, she is still the most successful recording artist that AGT launched and most influential contestant of all time as they still bring in child singers, child opera singers, opera singers every season. An actual fan would celebrate her all the time. The question is why do you post about Jackie if you hate her so much? Oh, and Jackie's appearance on TMS was a great opportunity at national exposure, but unfortunately it doesn't gain her very many new fans. Yes it did. I followed Reddit and they were very upset when she left the show. Many considered her a favorite as well. Thats the entire point and premise of the show.No it isn't. She is still a favorite of past costumes on TMS reddit. One of her biggest fans was Chef Gordon Ramsay who judged her and is the biggest celebrity chef! TMS - she was anonymous as Kitty until five minutes at the end. It didn't help Jackie's career much at all. Most people watching didn't even know who she was, and within a day or two after the show forgot her name already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2022 15:42:31 GMT -5
Masked singer did not have much influence on Youtube, as Jackie did not deliver anything on Youtube. I said the "TV/YouTube audience", which is understood to mean that, unlike the studio audience in real time, the TV audience could only respond to the performances on YouTube videos uploaded after after the season was filmed. The number of views, the number of "Likes" and the nature of the comments reflect the TV audience response to each performance. Ex. 1.4M views with 98% Likes on "Dangerous Woman" indicates a significant interest and overwhelming approval. There was a significant difference between the predetermined studio audience response and the response from the public at large. You can't blame the pandemic, because other artists have shown that it's possible. She had only 3 concerts after performing on Masked Singer. She couldn't even refer to "Kitty" because the season was not over and she was bound by a non-disclosure agreement. Then she began recording the new album. 6 months after TMS was aired (the pandemic continuing) she had a serious bout with anorexia together with the car accident that put her out of commission for a year. She hadn't had a reasonable chance to capitalize on "Kitty" in concert. Why doesn't Jackie make music for these fans now, but only for older fans? Jackie makes music she wants to make. Those who like it buy it and/or show their approval through YouTube comments, likes and subscriptions. An increase in subscriptions indicates an increased interest. We don't know what demographic it represent and it doesn't matter. It could be in part a reflection of interest gained from Masked Singer, and in part her release of "River" 5 months later in Oct, 2020. Something accounts for an increase of an estimated 17k since Masked Singer. Subscriptions have increased another 1K in the last month. Only one, it is provable that others have benefited more from TMS. Jesse McCartney, for example, added 40,000 subscribers in May/June. If you only see the positive things, you don't move forward. and the main question . How can Jackie lose to Barry Zito?
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Post by msims on Jul 19, 2022 5:22:03 GMT -5
Negative feedback is not hate. Criticism is not hate. Ive seen the result of negativity and criticism. For instance commenting about her eating habits which is ignorant, its insensitive, and its completely un self aware and she even made an Instagram post about it but handled it maturely. Going back to the beginning, the criticism that she was lip syncing or 10 year old Jackie not conforming to opera standards. Some opera critics loathe CC. It tended to die down during OHN until she became hugely successful with back to back #2 B200 debuts with DWM. There was jealousy like no other because of her success. If you are familiar with Vegas, theres something called "coolers" or say a pouring cold water on her career with concern trolling talking points about her family, how they feel her family arent doing their jobs or Jackie's work ethic (180 gigs never considered, not including tv performances), or her career has been downward. I dont know anyone whos great that hasnt had massive success years or many years prior but still has a viable career just like Jackie. Alot of criticism tends to be directed at her fans (this post im responding to), or her social media, or what I describe as spam/posting of children or young women as a distraction. The negative people always always have endless amount of time and energy in pushing these negative talking points and the result is multiple forums have been dead or mostly empty because of it when these forums used to thrive and thats the result of enabling negativity and letting the negative in, thats ultimately the goal of the negative people to "cool" her fans and career. So enabling would be bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 6:01:20 GMT -5
Negative feedback is not hate. Criticism is not hate. Ive seen the result of negativity and criticism. For instance commenting about her eating habits which is ignorant, its insensitive, and its completely un self aware and she even made an Instagram post about it but handled it maturely. Going back to the beginning, the criticism that she was lip syncing or 10 year old Jackie not conforming to opera standards. Some opera critics loathe CC. It tended to die down during OHN until she became hugely successful with back to back #2 B200 debuts with DWM. There was jealousy like no other because of her success. If you are familiar with Vegas, theres something called "coolers" or say a pouring cold water on her career with concern trolling talking points about her family, how they feel her family arent doing their jobs or Jackie's work ethic (180 gigs never considered, not including tv performances), or her career has been downward. I dont know anyone whos great that hasnt had massive success years or many years prior but still has a viable career just like Jackie. Alot of criticism tends to be directed at her fans (this post im responding to), or her social media, or what I describe as spam/posting of children or young women as a distraction. The negative people always always have endless amount of time and energy in pushing these negative talking points and the result is multiple forums have been dead or mostly empty because of it when these forums used to thrive and thats the result of enabling negativity and letting the negative in, thats ultimately the goal of the negative people to "cool" her fans and career. So enabling would be bad. You're really weird. what are you even talking about at the beginning? The criticism at AGT 2010 was not against Jackie but against AGT. It was criticized that Jackie was called an opera singer. No one has asked for opera standards from a 10-year-old. All those who succeed get to feel jealousy, which is normal. There are thousands of artists who were great at some point and now have such careers as Jackie, and better. The criticism against stupid fans like you or Lawrence is justified. So many false things have been written about Jackie from your hands. That's the problem. If you described a realistic picture of Jackie's and didn't always point to her success as a child star, there would be less negative feedback. If you didn't inflate every bit of success and tell nonsense, I wouldn't have to correct. Jackie herself makes it far too easy for the critics, she makes so many mistakes in communication and in her public image. This is terrible, but we cannot change it.
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Post by msims on Jul 19, 2022 6:22:38 GMT -5
No one has asked for opera standards from a 10-year-old. You did not read the criticism then but I did. The crux of it was that they had a massive problem with CC artists and how they approach the material not as written, in other words what CC was all about. For stating facts? What false things? Its not realistic to ignore facts and to lie. What have you corrected that I said? No, shes been right on target. The mental health struggles are very much discussed these days among artists and celebs, anything else?
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Post by msims on Jul 19, 2022 7:04:04 GMT -5
With regard to Jackie's popularity as "Kitty", I followed the YouTube comments on all her performances as she season progressed. By the time she was unmasked in the quarter-finals, the combined views of each episode had surpassed that of any of the finalists with over 3M total views. Her Dangerous Woman performance alone had nearly 1.4M views with 98% likes, 3 times that of the most popular performance by the winner. It was mysteriously removed from YouTube the day before the finale while all other performance videos remained several weeks after the season's end. By all accounts, Kitty was the most popular performer of the season with the TV/YouTube audience. Countless comments were posted by professed new fans of Jackie Evancho. Her YouTube subscriptions had increased significantly and continued steadily in the months following. And, the views on the video, "Masked Singer -The Kitty Performances and Reveal" have continually increased to 785K at present. It's very unfortunate that the pandemic put a halt to concert tours for artists around the nation and Jackie was unable to capitalize on her success as "kitty". She had found what she called, 'a path I can go through to get to what I want" that suddenly she was unable to follow. The most popular and most popular participant in season 3 was Turtle. Jackie's Youtube subscribers went up the same way before and after. Masked singer did not have much influence on Youtube, as Jackie did not deliver anything on Youtube. You can't blame the pandemic, because other artists have shown that it's possible. The only significant increase was on Instagram. Why doesn't Jackie make music for these fans now, but only for older fans? These are the questions that need to be asked. Where is Jackie's musical development going, what comes after "Carousel of Time". What kind of songs are Jackie currently working on? And to what extent is Jackie able to plan concerts at all? It was between Kitty and the Turtle for most popular once he sung "Fix You" on the show that Jackie left on unless I see evidence otherwise, Dangerous Woman alone probably has 2.5m/3m yt hits combined. As far as concerts, her fans are the most vulnerable being elderly so its probably gonna take a bit before she could plan a complete tour. Jackie's demographic has always been the upper demo that buys CC and goes to CC concerts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 8:42:01 GMT -5
No one has asked for opera standards from a 10-year-old. You did not read the criticism then but I did. The crux of it was that they had a massive problem with CC artists and how they approach the material not as written, in other words what CC was all about. For stating facts? What false things? Its not realistic to ignore facts and to lie. What have you corrected that I said? No, shes been right on target. The mental health struggles are very much discussed these days among artists and celebs, anything else? Typical arrogant fanatic, how do you know what I've read. I know these statements and from the point of view of opera lovers these statements are justified and they criticize every CC singer. This point is completely unimportant. Fans who tell untruths, e.g. concerts are sold out even though it wasn't true Jackie never had singing lessons, that's not true either jackie has sold more than 4 or 5 million albums ,wrong jackie has an apartment in New York for 2 million, lied etc you yourself constantly ignore facts because you don't want to see them. The people who criticize Jackie are not to blame for Jackie's declining notoriety. The more people discuss or talk about Jackie, whether positive or negative, the more interest there is in Jackie. on Youtube , 2021 on the subject of concert postponements I have corrected you but above all I correct lawrence and others. Jackie communicates too little about her work as an artist/singer, Jackie offers no insight into the recordings or songwriting. This gives the impression that Jackie is actually just singing, the rest is done by the production team. How much part does Jackie have in an album, in the music, etc. Jackie presents herself childish and naïve to the outside, her interview at the ESI Summit Jackie begins with the words "my name is Jackie Evancho" like a little child. instead of writing about the meaning of sustainability, Jackie only writes red carpet, glamour and a video of her choosing her new dress. Again, nothing about their music. This has been going on for years, the main thing is glamour, clothing, appearance, etc. (even their Facebook fan pages celebrate almost only their appearance) and where has this led to the disease. Jackie should not have simply disappeared from social media at the end of 2020, a small written message on Facebook and Instagram would have been better. When was the car accident in 2019, 2020 or 2021, very unfortunate formulations create implausibility. Having anorexia and a wrong body image and then taking sexy photos or appearing sexy can also be described as implausible.and then complain that people say she doesn't look like she has anorexia. Unbelievable. There are many things that go wrong. And you won't be able to change it by ignoring these things.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 8:52:12 GMT -5
The most popular and most popular participant in season 3 was Turtle. Jackie's Youtube subscribers went up the same way before and after. Masked singer did not have much influence on Youtube, as Jackie did not deliver anything on Youtube. You can't blame the pandemic, because other artists have shown that it's possible. The only significant increase was on Instagram. Why doesn't Jackie make music for these fans now, but only for older fans? These are the questions that need to be asked. Where is Jackie's musical development going, what comes after "Carousel of Time". What kind of songs are Jackie currently working on? And to what extent is Jackie able to plan concerts at all? It was between Kitty and the Turtle for most popular once he sung "Fix You" on the show that Jackie left on unless I see evidence otherwise, Dangerous Woman alone probably has 2.5m/3m yt hits combined. As far as concerts, her fans are the most vulnerable being elderly so its probably gonna take a bit before she could plan a complete tour. Jackie's demographic has always been the upper demo that buys CC and goes to CC concerts. You forget the influence that the well-known and popularity of the song has on the Puplikum. This is a decisive factor. If someone wins 40000 subscribers and the other only 5000 that is a clear statement regardless of the song. But why does Jackie lose to a baseball player? what do Jackie's fans have to do with the concerts? The older they are, the more likely they are to be dead, that's normal. Other old artists perform, but Jackie can't give concerts so as not to companion her fans. That's one of those stupid statements I'm talking about.
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Post by lawrence on Jul 19, 2022 11:22:31 GMT -5
How can Jackie lose to Barry Zito? The show is scripted by the producers. Outcomes are predetermined. Jackie doesn't have the notoriety the finalists enjoy and would therefore be a disappointment as a finalist who was relatively unknown in the mainstream. The irony is that they underestimated her appeal to the TV audience. Barry Zito is a big-name celebrity baseball player. Obviously he can't sing better than Jackie. Another consideration is that she had 3 concerts scheduled the week the final 4 was to be filmed, and therefore could not continue beyond the quarter-finals. There's a reason the show doesn't have live voting. It's all about ratings and entertainment, not a singing contest. Jackie would have known from the beginning she would be unmasked before the finale.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2022 12:24:08 GMT -5
How can Jackie lose to Barry Zito? The show is scripted by the producers. Outcomes are predetermined. Jackie doesn't have the notoriety the finalists enjoy and would therefore be a disappointment as a finalist who was relatively unknown in the mainstream. The irony is that they underestimated her appeal to the TV audience. Barry Zito is a big-name celebrity baseball player. Obviously he can't sing better than Jackie. Another consideration is that she had 3 concerts scheduled the week the final 4 was to be filmed, and therefore could not continue beyond the quarter-finals. There's a reason the show doesn't have live voting. It's all about ratings and entertainment, not a singing contest. Jackie would have known from the beginning she would be unmasked before the finale. As always, you can't prove your theories. Jackie was still in La at the time of the semifinals, so it wasn't because of the concerts. But no matter, it's in the past anyway, like everything.
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