|
Post by Yasmine E. on Oct 29, 2017 16:22:58 GMT -5
Updated and copied from the now deleted Guest Thread Both Angelica Hale and Jackie finished second on AGT (Jackie 2010, Angelica 2017). It is appropriate to compare how both are doing with the similar PrimeTime TV visibility. In addition Jackie -WON the YouTube submission contest in 2010 ( discontinued by 2017 ) so Jackie should have a greater advantage on YouTube, also considering the head start 2010 verse 2017: YouTube Update 10/27/2017 12 noon EDT: Angelica Hale YouTube created Jan 21,2012 346,881 total current subscribers 10/27 12 noon EDT 322,483 total current subscribers 10/07 12 noon EDT +24,398 added subscribers past 20 days socialblade.com/youtube/user/angeldaddyjamesJackie Evancho YouTube created Apr 18,2008 81,884 total current subscribers 10/27 12 noon EDT 81,296 total current subscribers 10/07 12 noon EDT +588 added subscribers past 20 days socialblade.com/youtube/user/usedmeb4
|
|
|
Post by rogeraphil on Oct 29, 2017 16:28:35 GMT -5
Updated and copied from the now deleted Guest Thread Both Angelica Hale and Jackie finished second on AGT (Jackie 2010, Angelica 2017). It is appropriate to compare how both are doing with the similar PrimeTime TV visibility. In addition Jackie -WON the YouTube submission contest in 2010 ( discontinued by 2017 ) so Jackie should have a greater advantage on YouTube, also considering the head start 2010 verse 2017: YouTube Update 10/27/2017 12 noon EDT: Angelica Hale YouTube created Jan 21,2012 346,881 total current subscribers 10/27 12 noon EDT 322,483 total current subscribers 10/07 12 noon EDT +24,398 added subscribers past 20 days socialblade.com/youtube/user/angeldaddyjamesJackie Evancho YouTube created Apr 18,2008 81,884 total current subscribers 10/27 12 noon EDT 81,296 total current subscribers 10/07 12 noon EDT +588 added subscribers past 20 days socialblade.com/youtube/user/usedmeb4 The use of Youtube, and Social Media in general has skyrocketed since 2010, and I believe that anyone coming into the public eye today is likely to instantaneously get more views than 7 years ago.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2017 16:26:28 GMT -5
Updated and copied from the now deleted Guest Thread Both Angelica Hale and Jackie finished second on AGT (Jackie 2010, Angelica 2017). It is appropriate to compare how both are doing with the similar PrimeTime TV visibility. In addition Jackie -WON the YouTube submission contest in 2010 ( discontinued by 2017 ) so Jackie should have a greater advantage on YouTube, also considering the head start 2010 verse 2017:YouTube Update 10/27/2017 12 noon EDT: Angelica Hale YouTube created Jan 21,2012 346,881 total current subscribers 10/27 12 noon EDT 322,483 total current subscribers 10/07 12 noon EDT +24,398 added subscribers past 20 days socialblade.com/youtube/user/angeldaddyjamesJackie Evancho YouTube created Apr 18,2008 81,884 total current subscribers 10/27 12 noon EDT 81,296 total current subscribers 10/07 12 noon EDT +588 added subscribers past 20 days socialblade.com/youtube/user/usedmeb4 Any early advantage Jackie had on her YouTube was eliminated in 2012 - 2013 when it was cut back to two old videos and a PSA. Don Screenshot from 2013: web.archive.org/web/20130114201815/http://www.youtube.com/user/usedmeb4/videos?view=0&flow=grid
|
|
|
Post by Gato on Oct 30, 2017 17:48:44 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if the Grammy chatter has a positive effect (fingers crossed).
I hope Jackie has the backing needed for another album soon, but even just a single release would go a long way, IMO.
|
|
|
Post by ursus on Oct 30, 2017 19:39:51 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if the Grammy chatter has a positive effect (fingers crossed). I hope Jackie has the backing needed for another album soon, but even just a single release would go a long way, IMO. Has there been any Grammy charter besides for Dina Fanai's post? That is all which I have seen.
I agree that even a single new release by Jackie would be good. It would also allow this forum to get back on topic.
|
|
|
Post by Gato on Oct 30, 2017 19:56:37 GMT -5
I'm not a social media player so I don't know, but we can hope the comments get spread around.
|
|
|
Post by Yasmine E. on Oct 31, 2017 17:06:56 GMT -5
Updated and copied from the now deleted Guest Thread Both Angelica Hale and Jackie finished second on AGT (Jackie 2010, Angelica 2017). It is appropriate to compare how both are doing with the similar PrimeTime TV visibility. In addition Jackie -WON the YouTube submission contest in 2010 ( discontinued by 2017 ) so Jackie should have a greater advantage on YouTube, also considering the head start 2010 verse 2017: YouTube Update 10/27/2017 12 noon EDT: Angelica Hale YouTube created Jan 21,2012 346,881 total current subscribers 10/27 12 noon EDT 322,483 total current subscribers 10/07 12 noon EDT +24,398 added subscribers past 20 days socialblade.com/youtube/user/angeldaddyjamesJackie Evancho YouTube created Apr 18,2008 81,884 total current subscribers 10/27 12 noon EDT 81,296 total current subscribers 10/07 12 noon EDT +588 added subscribers past 20 days socialblade.com/youtube/user/usedmeb4 The use of Youtube, and Social Media in general has skyrocketed since 2010, and I believe that anyone coming into the public eye today is likely to instantaneously get more views than 7 years ago. On the flip side, people who established YouTube accounts earlier had several years head start over newbies like Angelica Hale. Just a couple of people who started around the same time as Jackie, actually Lindsey Stirling who appeared the same year AGT2010 starter her YouTube about a year BEFORE Jackie & Taylor Swift started her VEVO channel a year AFTER Jackie -all started before 2010: YouTube subscribers 10/31/2017 5:30pm EDT: Lindsey Stirling YouTube (Lindseystomp) created May 20,2007 9,963,528 subscribers Jackie Evancho YouTube (usedmeb4) created April 18,2008 82,039 subscribers Taylor Swift VEVO YouTube (taylorswiftvevo) created May 12,2009 25,801,788 subscribers
|
|
|
Post by rick158 on Nov 2, 2017 9:55:03 GMT -5
Jackie's interenet presense including all social media and you tube has been abysmal. One of the reasons for her low market penetration besides her genre is the horrible job Jackie's team has done. The Official Webpage has never been adequately updated and maintained, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, et al updates have been inconsistent with huge gaps between posts. I believe a large reason for dwindling sales, buzz and concert attendance can be directly linked back to poor marketing. What can we do? Not one thing. Team E has to choose to put the time and effort in or they can expect further losses.
|
|
|
Post by javier on Nov 8, 2017 9:59:12 GMT -5
Jackie's official website looks horrible. Quite ironic that the non-official Danish fansite looks more professional than her official one.
|
|
|
Post by Gato on Nov 8, 2017 16:15:22 GMT -5
Jackie's official website looks horrible. Quite ironic that the non-official Danish fansite looks more professional than her official one. I think it has ever been so... unfortunate for the fans, as well as the artist.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:04:11 GMT -5
I concur with the above statements.... Jackie's web site is a MESS. She deserves much better then that.
|
|
|
Post by rob49 on Nov 8, 2017 19:40:33 GMT -5
The use of Youtube, and Social Media in general has skyrocketed since 2010, and I believe that anyone coming into the public eye today is likely to instantaneously get more views than 7 years ago. On the flip side, people who established YouTube accounts earlier had several years head start over newbies like Angelica Hale. Just a couple of people who started around the same time as Jackie, actually Lindsey Stirling who appeared the same year AGT2010 starter her YouTube about a year BEFORE Jackie & Taylor Swift started her VEVO channel a year AFTER Jackie -all started before 2010: YouTube subscribers 10/31/2017 5:30pm EDT: Lindsey Stirling YouTube (Lindseystomp) created May 20,2007 9,963,528 subscribers Jackie Evancho YouTube (usedmeb4) created April 18,2008 82,039 subscribers Taylor Swift VEVO YouTube (taylorswiftvevo) created May 12,2009 25,801,788 subscribers LOL
|
|
|
Post by rogeraphil on Nov 9, 2017 3:45:14 GMT -5
On the flip side, people who established YouTube accounts earlier had several years head start over newbies like Angelica Hale. Just a couple of people who started around the same time as Jackie, actually Lindsey Stirling who appeared the same year AGT2010 starter her YouTube about a year BEFORE Jackie & Taylor Swift started her VEVO channel a year AFTER Jackie -all started before 2010: YouTube subscribers 10/31/2017 5:30pm EDT: Lindsey Stirling YouTube (Lindseystomp) created May 20,2007 9,963,528 subscribers Jackie Evancho YouTube (usedmeb4) created April 18,2008 82,039 subscribers Taylor Swift VEVO YouTube (taylorswiftvevo) created May 12,2009 25,801,788 subscribers LOL I believe that social media (Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, etc.) are 85% driven by today's youth, and to me, there is no doubt that the music that Jackie kicked off with is more appreciated by us older folks who do not have a cell phone glued to the palm of our hand. Both Taylor, and Lindsey's music appeal more to the young, hence the greater activity on social media that you point out. We will have to wait and see about Angelica Hale to evaluate her career. Perhaps until after she has produced seven #1 studio albums, as Jackie has !!!
|
|
|
Post by javier on Nov 9, 2017 4:28:33 GMT -5
They should not have removed some of Jackie's most popular videos on youtube.
|
|
|
Post by ursus on Nov 9, 2017 7:05:16 GMT -5
I believe that social media (Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, etc.) are 85% driven by today's youth, and to me, there is no doubt that the music that Jackie kicked off with is more appreciated by us older folks who do not have a cell phone glued to the palm of our hand. Both Taylor, and Lindsey's music appeal more to the young, hence the greater activity on social media that you point out. We will have to wait and see about Angelica Hale to evaluate her career. Perhaps until after she has produced seven #1 studio albums, as Jackie has !!! No doubt that is correct.
I still am concerned about the apparent trend of Jackie to give concerts to smaller audiences. I am eagerly awaiting what happens when she turns 18, although I would be quite surprised if she ditches her family. She has met countless people in the last seven years who she should be able to turn to for suggestions, most of whom would probably be very willing and able to help. Hopefully she can evaluate them correctly.
|
|