|
Post by Beachguy on Feb 7, 2018 11:09:17 GMT -5
It's my observation that Jackie's career would not have begun were it not for her innate musical aptitude and abilities. They provide the foundation for capitalizing on the unique maturity and tonal quality of her young voice. That beautiful bell-tone is just the icing on the cake. Her instincts and insights have been essential to her artistry. Other accomplished singers have had to study, work and practice diligently to achieve what she does naturally. Much has already been said by knowledgeable musicians, professional and amateur alike, about her various musical attributes. The clarity of her voice has been her signature. But, it's her "musical brain" that has made her the vocalist she is and has been since she first displayed her talent. Jackie sings with such natural ease that one might think her songs have not been challenging. Of course one has to be familiar with the difficulties inherent in a challenging song to appreciate her mastery and effortless execution. Jackie makes listening a wonderful experience because she is a natural artist able to cross genre boundaries and draw you into her own emotion. this is a example of why Jackie wanted off the pedestal but some will not let her , not fair to her as she even had to say she is "" just a Girl "" , this kind of post hurts her , if this post is true she would have no trouble seller her music in CDs and Concert Tickets which in truth are low , "" musical brain "" ?? , she can't read music , i believe it is her TONE above mastery or effortless execution , but we all have opinion . btw i believe she works hard to achieve .
|
|
|
Post by Beachguy on Feb 7, 2018 11:19:50 GMT -5
Jackie received her voice from parents , singing is easy for most people but most people do not have a very good voice , there are millions singing in school , churches , clubs , etc etc , her now sister Juliet can sing nicely as in the passed with Jackie , perhaps the other sister and brother could also , some things run in the family , Jackie is not a strong singer type so she sings what fits her vocal cords best , she is learning from life what she can and can not sing , she is learning from life what she wants may not be right for her career , we all will know in next few years . next album ? who know , not even she does is a guess . it would be nice if her OTT fans would let her off the high pedestal as she has asked , if they are true fans they will not think about some great comment of theirs and think of her . free Jackie , free Jackie .
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 15:55:49 GMT -5
It's my observation that Jackie's career would not have begun were it not for her innate musical aptitude and abilities. They provide the foundation for capitalizing on the unique maturity and tonal quality of her young voice. That beautiful bell-tone is just the icing on the cake. Her instincts and insights have been essential to her artistry. Other accomplished singers have had to study, work and practice diligently to achieve what she does naturally. Much has already been said by knowledgeable musicians, professional and amateur alike, about her various musical attributes. The clarity of her voice has been her signature. But, it's her "musical brain" that has made her the vocalist she is and has been since she first displayed her talent. Jackie sings with such natural ease that one might think her songs have not been challenging. Of course one has to be familiar with the difficulties inherent in a challenging song to appreciate her mastery and effortless execution. Jackie makes listening a wonderful experience because she is a natural artist able to cross genre boundaries and draw you into her own emotion. this is a example of why Jackie wanted off the pedestal but some will not let her , not fair to her as she even had to say she is "" just a Girl "" , this kind of post hurts her , if this post is true she would have no trouble seller her music in CDs and Concert Tickets which in truth are low , "" musical brain "" ?? , she can't read music , i believe it is her TONE above mastery or effortless execution , but we all have opinion . btw i believe she works hard to achieve . I think she'll survive the recognition. Some opinions are educated, some are not. Yes, she continually works at developing and perfecting her innate talent. Isn't that obvious?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 16:33:33 GMT -5
it would be nice if her OTT fans would let her off the high pedestal as she has asked , if they are true fans they will not think about some great comment of theirs and think of her . free Jackie , free Jackie Beachguy, I commend your defense of Jackie's honor, but get up to date. Those kinds of fans haven't been posting here. The "OTT" and "true fan" references have become trite and obnoxious. Jackie IS free!
|
|
|
Post by Beachguy on Feb 8, 2018 12:26:07 GMT -5
this is a example of why Jackie wanted off the pedestal but some will not let her , not fair to her as she even had to say she is "" just a Girl "" , this kind of post hurts her , if this post is true she would have no trouble seller her music in CDs and Concert Tickets which in truth are low , "" musical brain "" ?? , she can't read music , i believe it is her TONE above mastery or effortless execution , but we all have opinion . btw i believe she works hard to achieve . I think she'll survive the recognition. Some opinions are educated, some are not. Yes, she continually works at developing and perfecting her innate talent. Isn't that obvious? No it is not as i think her Lovers at 12 or 13 and ND were two of her best sounding and singing , no she did not survive seeing the low sales , people expected more by now after the GREAT build up by some
|
|
|
Post by Beachguy on Feb 8, 2018 12:32:11 GMT -5
it would be nice if her OTT fans would let her off the high pedestal as she has asked , if they are true fans they will not think about some great comment of theirs and think of her . free Jackie , free Jackie Beachguy, I commend your defense of Jackie's honor, but get up to date. Those kinds of fans haven't been posting here. The "OTT" and "true fan" references have become trite and obnoxious. Jackie IS free! thanks , i have always butted heads with her fans making her the greatest , O i am up to date , i know all her fans since she started , she still has many OTT on social media sites , yes few have come here , they will not with me being here , they chat on private rooms , they are like mice hiding from a cat , Jackie will be free when she takes full control of her life and career , book it .
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 12:54:09 GMT -5
Beachguy, I commend your defense of Jackie's honor, but get up to date. Those kinds of fans haven't been posting here. The "OTT" and "true fan" references have become trite and obnoxious. Jackie IS free! thanks , i have always butted heads with her fans making her the greatest , O i am up to date , i know all her fans since she started , she still has many OTT on social media sites , yes few have come here , they will not with me being here , they chat on private rooms , they are like mice hiding from a cat , Jackie will be free when she takes full control of her life and career , book it . Well, I've never said she was the "greatest", or "the best". And certainly never given her excessive adulation as those who called her "angel" etc., but some would still call me and other admiring fans "OTT" or "mush and gush" out of contempt and yes even out of ignorance. I acknowledge Jackie's abilities from my own experience as a student of music. What I see in her talent is what many others have recognized. I suspect many admirers don't know what has made Jackie the vocalist she is and what lies beneath that affect she has had and continues to have upon them. It isn't just the "tone". That's my point. Let's not bicker about it, and stop trying to be a tough guy, but attempt to communicate with some understanding and tolerance for what her fans think and feel.
|
|
|
Post by Beachguy on Feb 8, 2018 13:10:52 GMT -5
thanks , i have always butted heads with her fans making her the greatest , O i am up to date , i know all her fans since she started , she still has many OTT on social media sites , yes few have come here , they will not with me being here , they chat on private rooms , they are like mice hiding from a cat , Jackie will be free when she takes full control of her life and career , book it . Well, I've never said she was the "greatest", or "the best". And certainly never given her excessive adulation as those who called her "angel" etc., but some would still call me and other admiring fans "OTT" or "mush and gush" out of contempt and yes even out of ignorance. I acknowledge Jackie's abilities from my own experience as a student of music. What I see in her talent is what many others have recognized. I suspect many admirers don't know what has made Jackie the vocalist she is and what lies beneath that affect she has had and continues to have upon them. It isn't just the "tone". That's my point. Let's not bicker about it, and stop trying to be a tough guy, but attempt to communicate with some understanding and tolerance for what her fans think and feel. point taken , i have no idea what singing teachers or music PHDs say about her singing , i was raised on the streets of Pittsburgh and i am a tough guy not trying , i will comment on OTT comments for her not me , i believe it hurts her as she can not reach too high expectations , i have hear many singers sing the same songs as Jackie like a Miss House that are nearly the same but Jackies' tone is better on My ears BTW i been attacked many , many times by her fan base , i fight back when they attack me , talk to them
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 14:32:13 GMT -5
David: "...the brain of an adult" (musically).... a "profound experience" working with her...."reminds me of working with Whitney"...."she gives me something more" than what I asked for". "Glues herself to the track" Nessun Dorma....." a gigantic piece of music" (performed by an 11 year old)
Who would call David Foster "OTT" or "mush and gush", because he speaks of Jackie's musical prowess? Does Jackie appear to be adversely affected by David's acknowledgments and admiration of her talent? Is he "putting her on a pedestal? She seems very aware of herself and her talent, though she is modest and doesn't express it.
David to Jackie: "quite remarkable, right?" Jackie responds, humbly,"yeah".
Pardon the out-of-sequence quotes.
|
|
|
Post by Beachguy on Feb 9, 2018 12:41:56 GMT -5
David: "...the brain of an adult" (musically).... a "profound experience" working with her...."reminds me of working with Whitney"...."she gives me something more" than what I asked for". "Glues herself to the track" Nessun Dorma....." a gigantic piece of music" (performed by an 11 year old) Who would call David Foster "OTT" or "mush and gush", because he speaks of Jackie's musical prowess? Does Jackie appear to be adversely affected by David's acknowledgments and admiration of her talent? Is he "putting her on a pedestal? She seems very aware of herself and her talent, though she is modest and doesn't express it. David to Jackie: "quite remarkable, right?" Jackie responds, humbly,"yeah". Pardon the out-of-sequence quotes. Why worry about Jackie , Mr Foster said she has great musical ability , never mind she can't read music or perhaps write music but if he says it then it must be true . when did he say this , at what age was Jackie ? , she must be much deeper in musical ability .BTW Yes he did put her too High as now people are waiting and expecting great things from her
|
|
|
Post by johnnyb on Feb 9, 2018 14:02:28 GMT -5
This video contains scenes with the audio I have never seen or heard before. It even has Lisa in a couple clips and Jackie talking about her vocal teacher.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 14:42:57 GMT -5
David: "...the brain of an adult" (musically).... a "profound experience" working with her...."reminds me of working with Whitney"...."she gives me something more" than what I asked for". "Glues herself to the track" Nessun Dorma....." a gigantic piece of music" (performed by an 11 year old) Who would call David Foster "OTT" or "mush and gush", because he speaks of Jackie's musical prowess? Does Jackie appear to be adversely affected by David's acknowledgments and admiration of her talent? Is he "putting her on a pedestal? She seems very aware of herself and her talent, though she is modest and doesn't express it. David to Jackie: "quite remarkable, right?" Jackie responds, humbly,"yeah". Pardon the out-of-sequence quotes. Why worry about Jackie , Mr Foster said she has great musical ability , never mind she can't read music or perhaps write music but if he says it then it must be true . when did he say this , at what age was Jackie ? , she must be much deeper in musical ability .BTW Yes he did put her too High as now people are waiting and expecting great things from her And you know better? Reading music is not a criterion for "musical ability". (Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Andrea Bocelli, etc..not equating her with them). Neither is writing a criterion for a vocalist. Jackie doesn't read music and hasn't had to. That's the point. At 10yrs she understood music without having to read it. If you knew how to read music and understand it, you might appreciate that. Obviously you don't, yet you persist in denying Jackie any musical attribute other than having a "pretty tone". Not too insightful. It seems you're the one who's "waiting and expecting great things from her", speaking for people. I know, it's all all about album sales, blah, blah. It may be a long wait for you, maybe never happen in your estimation.
|
|
|
Post by johnnyb on Feb 9, 2018 15:13:22 GMT -5
Lawerence watch the video I posted above and listen to what David Foster has to say about Jackie, ignore the Troll Beach Bum.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 15:42:36 GMT -5
Lawerence watch the video I posted above and listen to what David Foster has to say about Jackie, ignore the Troll Beach Bum. Thanks for posting the longer version johnnyb. Yea, the guy will never be convinced by anything or anybody. Same ol' denial and rant.
|
|
|
Post by Beachguy on Feb 10, 2018 12:45:43 GMT -5
Why worry about Jackie , Mr Foster said she has great musical ability , never mind she can't read music or perhaps write music but if he says it then it must be true . when did he say this , at what age was Jackie ? , she must be much deeper in musical ability .BTW Yes he did put her too High as now people are waiting and expecting great things from her And you know better? Reading music is not a criterion for "musical ability". (Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Andrea Bocelli, etc..not equating her with them). Neither is writing a criterion for a vocalist. Jackie doesn't read music and hasn't had to. That's the point. At 10yrs she understood music without having to read it. If you knew how to read music and understand it, you might appreciate that. Obviously you don't, yet you persist in denying Jackie any musical attribute other than having a "pretty tone". Not too insightful. It seems you're the one who's "waiting and expecting great things from her", speaking for people. I know, it's all all about album sales, blah, blah. It may be a long wait for you, maybe never happen in your estimation. i have opinions , Anna Gracemen has written 60 songs , Miss Bear wrote and played her album at 6 years old , at is musical ability not just singing , i can sing btw i have insight as my mind and eyes and ears are open not like lots of Jackie fans , she knows her limits
|
|