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Post by oliness on Oct 27, 2017 7:10:29 GMT -5
SB is a Londoner and KJ is Welsh - both Brits who are in the UK most of the time. They have a moderate amount of interest but not as much as the pop stars - the classical field is limited in almost every country. I think Jackie's biggest problem is lack of promotion. With concerts not even being put on her website and only announced on fb a couple of weeks before, how does anyone expect them to be well attended? Many people likely plan their attendances at concerts a long time in advance. And the pop songs in Two Hearts seem to me like they should have remained journal entries, the sort of thing you write when you're feeling down but never show to anyone. A decent management would have said that, and found some good original classical music that could attract new interest. It seems pretty obvious to me that Jackie would prefer to be a pop star and have fans primarily in her own age bracket. I can't blame her for that, but she has to come around to seeing where her talent lies, and that talent is an outstanding one. Very few people can become celebrities in any field. See seems to enjoy most aspects of it, so she should to everything to see that she succeeds. This includes things like improved visibility. My gut feeling is that numerous people whom she has been in contact with, many of whom she probably respects, have told her that.
Although I don't think that we ever heard a reason that the song which she composed for Awakening disappeared, apparently without her knowledge, it probably crushed her. Thus these songs on Two Hearts. They are a second disk which I don't think added significantly to the cost, so I don't see a problem. I think I played that disk only once.
The 10-year-old Jackie in interviews said she preferred CC because it let you express emotions that you couldn't in pop. I wonder when and why that changed? I can understand that having fans old enough to be your parents who hold you in extremely high regard must be a strange experience, and there is far more money to be earned in the pop world if you can crack it. I do keep saying though that most pop music is forgotten very quickly, and Jackie has the potential to perform some classical music that will be loved centuries from now if she finds the right composer and they get the inspiration.
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Post by javier on Oct 27, 2017 9:08:25 GMT -5
Jackie has the ability to sing classical and is constantly improving. It will be a tragic waste of talent if she does not choose new repertoire that shows it off. Judging by her compositions so far, it pains me to say that she should leave composition to individuals more talented in that field.
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Post by oliness on Oct 27, 2017 10:11:45 GMT -5
Jackie has the ability to sing classical and is constantly improving. It will be a tragic waste of talent if she does not choose new repertoire that shows it off. Judging by her compositions so far, it pains me to say that she should leave composition to individuals more talented in that field. She should keep practicing songwriting, just maybe wait until there's one that's ready to release on a top-notch album. It's just that she's not a prodigious talent in that area like she is in classical singing. Similarly she can paint and draw reasonably well, but is not a child genius in that area either (unlike say Akiane Kramarik, who painted this when she was 9). Genuine child geniuses who are at an adult level at a young age are pretty rare of course. And maybe Jackie wants to grow in that area. It will be interesting to see what she may produce when she's older.
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Post by javier on Oct 27, 2017 10:47:44 GMT -5
My concern is that she is not working with the right people to develop her talent in songwriting. If she was working with someone like David Foster for example, I will certainly have more confidence. However, with regards to the compositions in two hearts, despite the help she received from her co-writers, I felt that those compositions lowered the standard of the album considerably. She certainly needs someone better to help her in composition.
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Post by oliness on Oct 27, 2017 10:59:32 GMT -5
My concern is that she is not working with the right people to develop her talent in songwriting. If she was working with someone like David Foster for example, I will certainly have more confidence. However, with regards to the compositions in two hearts, despite the help she received from her co-writers, I felt that those compositions lowered the standard of the album considerably. She certainly needs someone better to help her in composition. I would love to see her work with someone like Andrew Lloyd Webber or John Rutter. A new classical work in the vein of ALW's Requiem, if Jackie helped compose it and then was the lead soprano, could become a classic.
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Post by javier on Oct 27, 2017 11:07:29 GMT -5
Maybe working with someone young like Emily Bear will also be a great idea.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 11:08:31 GMT -5
I have a hunch that Jackie would like to switch over to a more pop style way to sing.
The CC genre isn't getting more popular these days, and JE must be aware of that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 11:12:13 GMT -5
Maybe working with someone young like Emily Bear will also be a great idea. Interesting that you bring up Emily Bear because I clearly remember when JE was first starting out, Lisa Evancho didn't want Jackie teaming up with another kid like Emily. Wouldn't it be fascinating if JE ended up working with Emily now!?
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Post by javier on Oct 27, 2017 11:15:36 GMT -5
I have a hunch that Jackie would like to switch over to a more pop style way to sing. The CC genre isn't getting more popular these days, and JE must be aware of that. Her endeavours into pop didn't seem to be that successful either. As Sarah Brightman and Katherine Jenkins are getting old, there will eventually be a void in CC that has to be filled. The most natural candidate to do so is Jackie obviously. It will be wise not to be over do her endeavours into pop.
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Post by javier on Oct 27, 2017 11:16:10 GMT -5
Maybe working with someone young like Emily Bear will also be a great idea. Interesting that you bring up Emily Bear because I clearly remember when JE was first starting out, Lisa Evancho didn't want Jackie teaming up with another kid like Emily. Wouldn't it be fascinating if JE ended up working with Emily now!? That will certainly be a dream come true.
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Post by ursus on Oct 27, 2017 11:21:11 GMT -5
It seems pretty obvious to me that Jackie would prefer to be a pop star and have fans primarily in her own age bracket. I can't blame her for that, but she has to come around to seeing where her talent lies, and that talent is an outstanding one. Very few people can become celebrities in any field. See seems to enjoy most aspects of it, so she should to everything to see that she succeeds. This includes things like improved visibility. My gut feeling is that numerous people whom she has been in contact with, many of whom she probably respects, have told her that.
Although I don't think that we ever heard a reason that the song which she composed for Awakening disappeared, apparently without her knowledge, it probably crushed her. Thus these songs on Two Hearts. They are a second disk which I don't think added significantly to the cost, so I don't see a problem. I think I played that disk only once.
The 10-year-old Jackie in interviews said she preferred CC because it let you express emotions that you couldn't in pop. I wonder when and why that changed? I can understand that having fans old enough to be your parents who hold you in extremely high regard must be a strange experience, and there is far more money to be earned in the pop world if you can crack it. I do keep saying though that most pop music is forgotten very quickly, and Jackie has the potential to perform some classical music that will be loved centuries from now if she finds the right composer and they get the inspiration. More grandparents' age than parents' in some cases.
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Post by ursus on Oct 27, 2017 11:35:17 GMT -5
Interesting that you bring up Emily Bear because I clearly remember when JE was first starting out, Lisa Evancho didn't want Jackie teaming up with another kid like Emily. Wouldn't it be fascinating if JE ended up working with Emily now!? That will certainly be a dream come true. From my opinion also. However as far as I know, Emily only composes music, not lyrics, so that void would have to be filled.
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Post by david on Oct 28, 2017 10:31:51 GMT -5
That will certainly be a dream come true. From my opinion also. However as far as I know, Emily only composes music, not lyrics, so that void would have to be filled. Excuse me ursus , i believe Emily has composed lyrics from a very young age , her first album if i am correct .
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Post by ursus on Oct 28, 2017 12:32:57 GMT -5
From my opinion also. However as far as I know, Emily only composes music, not lyrics, so that void would have to be filled. Excuse me ursus , i believe Emily has composed lyrics from a very young age , her first album if i am correct . As I wrote, I am unaware of EB writing lyrics. Do you have an example?
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Post by robinb on Dec 30, 2017 19:02:08 GMT -5
Annual Fansite Activity Report - 1 Jan 2018 ------------------------------------------- 1. Youtube On YouTube there are 44 Jackie Evancho videos with over 1 million views totalling 104 Million hits. Nine of these (21%) are dated Awakening or later. Most popular are: a. Jackie Evancho first audition Americas Got Talent full with result and comments (14 Million views); and b. Hallelujah feat. Jackie Evancho - Peter Hollens (6.1 Million views) Note that in Dec 2016, 57 videos had over 1 million views. The loss results mainly from closure of the JackieEvanchosBest Youtube Channel. 2. Facebook The most active Facebook sites remain unchanged from last year: a. Jackie Evancho World (renamed, was Jackie Fans HispanoAmerica) with 13,432 followers; b. Americas Sweetheart (6,263 members (was 4,278 last year); c. JE Fans (5,681 followers); and d. Jackie Evancho Around The World (renamed, was Jackie Evancho FansAround The World) 4,969 members. This yields a long term facebook trend: 2014 - 2,000 2015 - 3,500 2016 - 4,500 2017 - 7,600 3. Custom Websites/Blogs Proboard forums are unchanged, the most popular being jackieevanchofans.proboards.com/The overseas site www.jackieevanchofans.com has closed. Longstanding sites such as JackieEvanchoAdmirer and JackieJunkiesBlog remain highly active. 4. Membership numbers on international fan sites continue to grow modestly. 5. Jackie's official media with previous two years in brackets: Facebook: 401k (373k 322k) Twitter: 82.3k (74.6k 62.2) Instagram: 53.1k (40.8k 21k) Youtube: 84.0 (67.5k 21k) 6. BandsInTown trackers: 37,306 (29,102 21,408) 7. Billboards End of year results 2017: Classical Artists: #3 Jackie Evancho (was #4 in 2016) 8. Environmental Factors: Facebook remains dominant but is losing some percentage to competing platforms. (Zuckerberg acknowledges manipulation of the platform (28Dec17) for political and social engineering purposes, and has indicated significant changes for 2018. Impact remains to be seen.) Globally, the most significantly growing platform is Weixin, used almost exclusively in China. 9. Conclusion Fan participation trend over 12 months was positive but moderate with a growth rate around 30%, similar to last year. The majority of growth occurred early in the year following presidential inauguration activities, suggesting that long term growth remains stable, with the early spike now corrected. Previous annual reports are archived at jackiecentral.com/archive/stats.htmlJackiecentral attracted 746768 hits/40288 visits (cf 40497 last year).
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