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Post by jcas on Dec 7, 2023 8:01:21 GMT -5
Jackie in terms of the business she's in is a good girl trying to project to a market that prefers their entertainers to be bad girls or boys. Some months ago she posted a photo to her Instagram account dressed in a ridiculous, gangsta-moll style getup titled: "Feeling good", "It's a vibe." My comment: "Is that caricature? I certainly hope so." She replied: "No, that's the real me.". Hmmm. I don't think so; and that's a problem for her. I'm pretty sure, potential fans don't either no matter how slutty she dresses or tries to act like on her social media accounts. They're not buying it because most of her social media posts project and oxymoronically portray just the opposite. It's a problem for YOU, apparently, which you are projecting upon "potential fans' whom you know nothing about. It was a playful fashion shoot 6 months ago. She may have misunderstood your meaning....that you weren't sure it was really her in the costume (a caricature). Anyway, "Feeling good" was the Michael Bube soundtrack playing in the background to which she captioned, "It's a vibe" I expect you also dislike her photo shoots for Harper's Bazaar and New York Post along with other photos of her so-called "slutty" attire. This seems a characteristic response from her intolerant older fans to whom she has been trying to show that she is not the innocent angelic princess they want her to be. jackieevanchofans.proboards.com/post/45391I became a fan because I knew I was listening to the most purely beautiful, soul connecting, untrained voice of a singer of any age or genre I'd ever heard in all my music loving years. An extradinarly gifted young person singing some of the most timelessly beautiful songs ever written/composed. In my opinion, she remains peerless from her Dream With Me years to those of her last best album, Debut. Sad to me, is that based on her recent interviews and song lyrics, she doesn't agree with me or the thousands of her old fans like me, who do. Beyond Debut, I'm struggling to enjoy what I'm hearing from her .... and losing. I'm hoping what she's up to these days is the exploratory phase and learning curve that most 23 years olds must experience in order to find the path that leads to success and achievement. Again, you are projecting your perspective upon "thousands of her older fans". Put simply, it's apparent you haven't been paying attention to understand what her music is really about or why she has written it. It's very personal and not intended to showcase her vocal prowess. Her fans on social media and YouTube understand and encourage her songwriting. Read the comments on Behind My Eyes Live and Consequences live. Here's what she's up to these days. Dear Lawrence. I fully understand "what her music is all about". I read English and fully understand it. I'm the first on this proboard to transcribe her lyrics for Behind My Eyes, because they were nearly impossible to understand from the way she was singing them on her YouTube video, an old and long recognized problem with Jackie's abiltiy to enunciate. I'm also very sympathetic with and fully understand what she's describing in all three of the songs she's written/composed. However, what I don't understand at all is why Jackie's chosen to try and attract a younger audience, presumably Gen Zrs and Millenials with them. I'm sorry, to put it so crassly, but that just nuts. Who, especially from those generations, wants to hear songs about someone's mental illness and anger over the way she thought some people treated her on her way to making a million plus dollars and buying a mini mansion while still in her early teens. As I so accurately put it: , "The straight A student whining about the A- her teacher gave on a paper that others in her class where only capable of getting a C+ on." doesn't cut it with most from any generation. Trying to resuscitate and relaunch a stagnate career with songs like that is going to cut it only with her existing sychophantic fawners who dominate the comment threads on her social media efforts with stuff like: "That's so beautiful Jackie. You're so beautiful Jackie. You sing like an angel, Jackie" no matter what she does or sings; which is the same old soup warmed over she's been reading and hearing for the past 15 years. If you don't believe that, go back and read the comments below mine on that raunchy posting she did that I asked if and hoped was "caricature"; a Madonnaesque, bdsm type costume that she told me enclosed the real her. I'm sorry, but that kind of look only appeals to Boomer and Gen X creeps. I've got a ton of GenZ and Millenials in my extended family and know the typical members of those generations personally. Not one of them would find what she was trying to project with that look at all attractive, appealing, sexy; just a raunchy turn off. I could go on and on about this. But I'll conclude by restating as I have many times before on this proboard that I'm still very much a Jackie fan. I want her to succeed. I think the way she going about it is a big mistake. And yes, Lawrence, I plead guilty with pleasure, to being from that old generation of her fans who are dying out on her. But it may shock you that when you scroll through the 288 people that she follows on her Instagram site, you might just happen on the fact that I'm one of them. I think it's because she likes my comments. Quite a bit different than the "old soup warmed over" kind that she's used to.
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Post by lawrence on Dec 7, 2023 13:35:49 GMT -5
It's a problem for YOU, apparently, which you are projecting upon "potential fans' whom you know nothing about. It was a playful fashion shoot 6 months ago. She may have misunderstood your meaning....that you weren't sure it was really her in the costume (a caricature). Anyway, "Feeling good" was the Michael Bube soundtrack playing in the background to which she captioned, "It's a vibe" I expect you also dislike her photo shoots for Harper's Bazaar and New York Post along with other photos of her so-called "slutty" attire. This seems a characteristic response from her intolerant older fans to whom she has been trying to show that she is not the innocent angelic princess they want her to be. jackieevanchofans.proboards.com/post/45391Again, you are projecting your perspective upon "thousands of her older fans". Put simply, it's apparent you haven't been paying attention to understand what her music is really about or why she has written it. It's very personal and not intended to showcase her vocal prowess. Her fans on social media and YouTube understand and encourage her songwriting. Read the comments on Behind My Eyes Live and Consequences live. Here's what she's up to these days. Dear Lawrence. I fully understand "what her music is all about". I read English and fully understand it. I'm the first on this proboard to transcribe her lyrics for Behind My Eyes, because they were nearly impossible to understand from the way she was singing them on her YouTube video, an old and long recognized problem with Jackie's abiltiy to enunciate. I'm also very sympathetic with and fully understand what she's describing in all three of the songs she's written/composed. However, what I don't understand at all is why Jackie's chosen to try and attract a younger audience, presumably Gen Zrs and Millenials with them. I'm sorry, to put it so crassly, but that just nuts. Who, especially from those generations, wants to hear songs about someone's mental illness and anger over the way she thought some people treated her on her way to making a million plus dollars and buying a mini mansion while still in her early teens. As I so accurately put it: , "The straight A student whining about the A- her teacher gave on a paper that others in her class where only capable of getting a C+ on." doesn't cut it with most from any generation. Trying to resuscitate and relaunch a stagnate career with songs like that is going to cut it only with her existing sychophantic fawners who dominate the comment threads on her social media efforts with stuff like: "That's so beautiful Jackie. You're so beautiful Jackie. You sing like an angel, Jackie" no matter what she does or sings; which is the same old soup warmed over she's been reading and hearing for the past 15 years. If you don't believe that, go back and read the comments below mine on that raunchy posting she did that I asked if and hoped was "caricature"; a Madonnaesque, bdsm type costume that she told me enclosed the real her. I'm sorry, but that kind of look only appeals to Boomer and Gen X creeps. I've got a ton of GenZ and Millenials in my extended family and know the typical members of those generations personally. Not one of them would find what she was trying to project with that look at all attractive, appealing, sexy; just a raunchy turn off. I could go on and on about this. But I'll conclude by restating as I have many times before on this proboard that I'm still very much a Jackie fan. I want her to succeed. I think the way she going about it is a big mistake. And yes, Lawrence, I plead guilty with pleasure, to being from that old generation of her fans who are dying out on her. But it may shock you that when you scroll through the 288 people that she follows on her Instagram site, you might just happen on the fact that I'm one of them. I think it's because she likes my comments. Quite a bit different than the "old soup warmed over" kind that she's used to. It's my observation and, based upon what Jackie has said about her songwriting, she is not trying to attract any particular generation with the original songs she has released. She stated often and clearly that her intention is to "let others know they are not alone in the their own struggles", no matter what age (referring to BME and Consequences). She refers to there being untold numbers of people suffering, not only from anorexia but mental illness as well whom she wants to reach. More important, her songwriting, at present, is "a therapeutic endeavor", meaning that it is an essential part of her dealing with an overcoming her own "mental illness", perhaps even prescribed by her therapist. You seem to have her intention confused with "trying to resuscitate and relaunch a stagnate career" by attempting to reach a certain presumably irrelevant generation. Do you think, with her wealth, she can't afford to release original material for own personal benefit to her mental health, intended as well for the benefit of others, without it being an attempt to be more successful? How would one expect her to become widely popular with these songs? I'm sure she doesn't. Besides that, it's what she's wanted to do "for as long as I can remember". Now, as an adult independent artist, she has the opportunity to write, compose and even produce her own songs to finally gratify that life-long aspiration. At the outset, what she has released is what she had written during the time she had withdrawn from the public and off social media while dealing with physical, psychological and emotional issues. What better way to begin than to write about what one knows intimately well. As I said, you're not seeing the purpose of her songwriting. Many people can relate to her lyrics in BME....."If you could see behind my eyes, you'd see the truth inside the lies....", a line used for example in the 7 TikTok videos I posted here. With regard to GOOML, you make her sound like a spoiled brat with the "million plus dollars", "mini mansion" and "straight A student" references, which have absolutely nothing to do with her on-going struggle with "perfectionism" imposed upon her as a child of 10. It had caused her immeasurable psychological and emotional stress, leading in part, as she said, to her eating disorder. As to her lyrics, "I tried to do right in yours eyes....You were the light of my life, my morning my day and my night....I paid my debt....I'm tryin' out self-love instead....So shut up and get out of my life", countless people can relate to them in their own way. I am an older fan, as are others on this forum. I appreciate Jackie's songwriting for her honesty and her courage in disclosing to the public what many would most likely suffer in silence. In the case of Karen Carpenter, keeping silent by ignoring and denying her condition resulted in her death. I also think her lyrics are pertinent and clever, her compositions wonderfully constructed, and of course her voice is as beautiful as ever. Your particular disappointment doesn't influence me in the least, and I don't imagine it influences countless others who have expressed their appreciation. They aren't all "sychophantic fawners" as you suggest.
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Post by lawrence on Dec 7, 2023 18:37:34 GMT -5
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Post by ghost on Feb 2, 2024 10:43:37 GMT -5
"Behind My Eyes 2.0" It's a new version of the song that Jackie has released. It's shorten from 3:36 to 2:58:
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Post by lawrence on Feb 2, 2024 11:36:07 GMT -5
"Behind My Eyes 2.0" It's a new version of the song that Jackie has released. It's shorten from 3:36 to 2:58: It seems to have dropped the last chorus that begins at 3:02 on the original.....The way she ended the song for her performance on Good Morning America. I wonder why Orchard released a shortened version.
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Post by ghost on Feb 2, 2024 12:04:39 GMT -5
I wonder why Orchard released a shortened version. I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure Jackie will say something about it on Facebook or IG later today.
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Post by geb on Feb 3, 2024 4:55:40 GMT -5
Obviously, the shortened version is for the radio, as Jackie just announced! The music distributor, The Orchard Enterprises (now just called The Orchard) is a wholly owned subsidiary of one of Jackie's original labels from 2010. Namely, it is owned by Sony Music Entertainment. Amazing how things come around as Jackie is now moving from Classical Crossover into Alternative Rock/Pop, the latter being a very big marketplace. Wiki on The Orchard, music distributor owned by Sony
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Post by lawrence on Feb 3, 2024 10:11:04 GMT -5
Obviously, the shortened version is for the radio, as Jackie just announced! Did you know Behind My Eyes 2.0 was for radio before Jackie announced it?
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Post by geb on Feb 5, 2024 2:17:11 GMT -5
Obviously, the shortened version is for the radio, as Jackie just announced! Did you know Behind My Eyes 2.0 was for radio before Jackie announced it? I saw the announcement before I saw the video, so, in my case, no due to the timing of things.
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Post by lawrence on Mar 12, 2024 10:22:56 GMT -5
Jackie's keyboardist, Anthony Saddic
keyboardist/drummer/guitarist
"Anthony Saddic is the official keyboardist of Alternative Rock band The GoAround and has played on stage in almost every state in the US. He also studied classical and jazz piano, as well as songwriting and composition at West Chester University. Due to his somewhat eclectic background and music taste, Anthony loves working with students with any and all different kinds of musical goals."
Anthony Performs 'Square' with Nashville Guitarist Garrett Stoner (and the new sE2200 Cardioid condenser microphone):
Behind My Eyes on GMA with Anthony Saddic and Jackie's co-producer Greg Camp
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Post by lawrence on Mar 28, 2024 16:49:04 GMT -5
Official video:
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Post by lawrence on Mar 28, 2024 16:56:48 GMT -5
An exceptionally insightful comment on the official video: "Oh, Jackie!!!! Wow! This is such an intriguing and creatively expressed video showing on so many levels the struggles of dealing with mental health issues. It's all here, visually for us to see and to also recognize under the surface, too. I am sure that many people will be able to relate to this song (if they hadn't already heard it earlier) and its visual presentation. One thing I especially appreciate is how it effectively brings out the contrasts so often present in life, but which are especially difficult in day-to-day life with one or more mental health problems. You and your videographer wonderfully captured the rapidity of how moods can change, how behaviors and thoughts can suddenly be altered with what feels like the flip of a switch, how at one point the world seems grey and drab, colorless, but then suddenly -- BOOM!! -- springs into full-on, vivid color. (Sometimes too vivid?) I had wondered how the part in the song about "things lurking in the dark" that "like to leave a mark inside of you" would be visually interpreted and I love the way this is done, and the colorless origami "birds" floating around in a dreamy sequence, not quite in touch with reality..... with eventually one, somehow carefully on its own in a protective cage, finally displaying some color, standing out, waiting to be noticed, a small origami bird becoming a sign of hope, something to reach for and to cherish and with which to work towards a healthier, happier future. I also love how you brought into this video more of your own creativity by showing us you at work painting, creating something new, and then maybe once again struggling and feeling the impulse to destroy it but then, thankfully, happily, allowing one beautiful creation to keep shining through and by gently plucking it, rescuing it from the confusion and struggles. It's lovely...... Keep moving forward, Jackie! You're confronting those "things lurking in the dark" and while they may still leave a mark or try to do so, you are also figuring out how to not let that hurt you, how to ignore that (often negative, potentially destructive) mark and move on finding and celebrating your own identity and your own creativity and ability to present gifts to offer the world, in your own time and your own way...."
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Post by lawrence on Mar 31, 2024 11:15:09 GMT -5
TikTok post
"I love it when artists do a complete 180 with their sound"
https://www.tiktok.com/@popsamcam/video/7278819375539424558
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Post by lawrence on Apr 9, 2024 23:17:35 GMT -5
"Lip Syncing Behind My Eyes by Jackie Evancho"
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