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Post by Beachguy on Feb 5, 2018 12:33:49 GMT -5
Beachguy, The challenges of music have nothing to do with your opinion of what you hear. An educated musician and vocalist would recognize the degree of difficulty in performing a challenging song. Jackie is a natural vocalist with perfect relative pitch and other abilities who makes "difficult" songs sound easy. Vocalise among others in her extensive repertoire is not a "safe" song. it's safe to say you're not likely to appreciate the challenges. Keep telling yourself Jackie is the best while everyone is passing her up. Nobody cares what these selfmade so called experts think about music. Being the best can get you a trophy in a contest. Being a good singer and entertainer is what brings the people in. No negatives or you out  , i have always said ""Jackie is a very fine singer with the best of tone in my opinion "", as far as one of the very best i have not heard enough of other singers to comment .btw , a entertainer is very important as Miss Swift had proven , most big name singer DO NOT HAVE THE SOUND OF JACKIE but it takes more then a voice . at 17 Jackie can still be a big name in the future IF she wants to be and IF is a big word . |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 20:38:51 GMT -5
Sean posted this on FB today. I know, negs, she does not have a gown on and her hair done, but she is great. This was during the week of BGT singing ND. She was probably worn out. She did about half DWM at this gig, QVCUK.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 0:32:58 GMT -5
I'm sure you appreciate this one as well, wayne, as I do from the same QVCUK presentation.
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Post by rlhamil on Mar 10, 2018 21:32:48 GMT -5
When has Jackie sang what singers say is a very hard song to sing , one with changes of high and low in a fast beat , Jackie has to me the best TONE but she sings safe songs , no matter the ear it is ones opinion I think that Caruso is not the easiest song to sing, but I am not a singer, so I don't know !! The lyrics are a mouthful and then some; but I don't know that the melody is especially difficult. I don't think there's any question that Jackie has not only an exceptional tone, but a substantial range. As for agility, Walking in the Air perhaps demonstrated that, somewhat. Even the way she did Believe (from The Polar Express) was IMO a bit faster and a somewhat more demanding arrangement than most others, including Groban's original version. She does IMO have a tendency to slow some songs down as a tour goes on. Often that's reasonable interpretation. But IMO, even though folks like JM or PK are supposed to follow her lead, they might be doing a service if they made sure she's aware that she's doing that. Maybe they have, and that's fine; not like we'd be told. As long as it's a conscious choice, it's not a problem. Probably with PK trying to hold strings, himself on the keyboard, and the backing tracks all together, that hasn't been happening so much anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 23:49:42 GMT -5
In one respect, slow songs in general are more difficult to perform with perfection because breath and vibrato (or straight tone if chosen) have to be maintained longer on pitch, particularly in the very high and low registers. Jackie is quite adept in that regard. Another consideration is the challenge of difficult intervals and/or runs in a demanding song, which the average listener is not likely to appreciate. With Jackie's perfect relative pitch, she executes them naturally and flawlessly, without the diligent practice of learning to hear and vocalize them accurately on pitch that most voice students require. Further, Jackie is very attuned to the orchestration, its rhythm and timing, able to take liberties for expression. Peter, as other conductors have, must work those things out with her with an ability to be spontaneous as her interpretation may vary slightly from one performance to another. Also, a vocalist must have a good "understanding of the musical structure of a song" (DF) in order to perform it as written but with his/her own interpretation. Jackie has demonstrated her innate ability in that respect without knowing how to read music, since the beginning. She has not been acknowledged a prodigy for the maturity of her voice alone but for her musical prowess as well. In short, Jackie has the natural attributes and talent to make challenging songs seem easy. Jackie has had no reason to choose "safe songs" to expand her repertoire.
Just my observation with some knowledge. Not an expert.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 14:40:18 GMT -5
In one respect, slow songs in general are more difficult to perform with perfection because breath and vibrato (or straight tone if chosen) have to be maintained longer on pitch, particularly in the very high and low registers. Jackie is quite adept in that regard. Another consideration is the challenge of difficult intervals and/or runs in a demanding song, which the average listener is not likely to appreciate. With Jackie's perfect relative pitch, she executes them naturally and flawlessly, without the diligent practice of learning to hear and vocalize them accurately on pitch that most voice students require. Further, Jackie is very attuned to the orchestration, its rhythm and timing, able to take liberties for expression. Peter, as other conductors have, must work those things out with her with an ability to be spontaneous as her interpretation may vary slightly from one performance to another. Also, a vocalist must have a good "understanding of the musical structure of a song" (DF) in order to perform it as written but with his/her own interpretation. Jackie has demonstrated her innate ability in that respect without knowing how to read music, since the beginning. She has not been acknowledged a prodigy for the maturity of her voice alone but for her musical prowess as well. In short, Jackie has the natural attributes and talent to make challenging songs seem easy. Jackie has had no reason to choose "safe songs" to expand her repertoire.Just my observation with some knowledge. Not an expert. This would be more appropriately posted in Jackie and her Artistry. But I wanted to give a familiar example. Notice the range required to perform this song. At age 9, Jackie sang this effortlessly, while smiling and hitting those interval leaps in perfect pitch with that natural beautiful tone. Performed with pure enjoyment. A listening pleasure. And, this ain't Mary Had A Little Lamb. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 15:31:53 GMT -5
"all opinions mean little , Jackie is NOT a great singer but a very good singer with very good tone imo." beachguy
Nobody here gives a flying fark about your opinions or your interests.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 21:29:38 GMT -5
"Give me Jackie's warm, soul touching timbre any day over Patka's ever more flinty edge.
Patricia set her goal early toward opera. She is attaining that goal and will live a life as a top star in that milieu. I remember when PJ, before her strenuous training, performed a vocalize of Once Upon a Time in the West. You could just tell the other girls were thinking; 'Ok ladies, we're in a battle for second place.'
Now, to prefer her voice one needs to appreciate technical virtuosity over beauty. For some, that tech virtuosity has a beauty all it's own, but not for regular working class people like me." agog
You deserve at least twenty thumbs-up for this post but I just don't have that many, sorry.
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Post by rob49 on Aug 10, 2018 6:33:01 GMT -5
Here is a video of Jackie In England.
From London's "This Morning" talk show.
Jackie singing Nessun Dorma on 'This Morning'.
Arguably one of her best renditions of this iconic opera aria.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 12:56:50 GMT -5
Here is a video of Jackie In England. From London's "This Morning" talk show. Jackie singing Nessun Dorma on 'This Morning'. Arguably one of her best renditions of this iconic opera aria. And here is the other one....  |
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, i have always said ""Jackie is a very fine singer with the best of tone in my opinion "", as far as one of the very best i have not heard enough of other singers to comment .btw , a entertainer is very important as Miss Swift had proven , most big name singer DO NOT HAVE THE SOUND OF JACKIE but it takes more then a voice . at 17 Jackie can still be a big name in the future IF she wants to be and IF is a big word .
because, you know, Every Little Thing She Does is Magic ... 
