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Post by rob49 on Dec 11, 2017 6:52:31 GMT -5
Try to imagine the response if Jackie had sung this on Britain's Got Talent, instead of Nessun Dorma.
And I know Simon was the one directing Jackie to sing Nessun Dorma, but if Jackie would have been willing to sing Danny Boy, I don't believe there's any way Simon would not have at least made time for Jackie to sing both, if not willing to replace Nessun Dorma with Danny Boy.
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Post by ursus on Dec 11, 2017 12:27:00 GMT -5
Try to imagine the response if Jackie had sung this on Britain's Got Talent, instead of Nessun Dorma. And I know Simon was the one directing Jackie to sing Nessun Dorma, but if Jackie would have been willing to sing Danny Boy, I don't believe there's any way Simon would not have at least made time for Jackie to sing both, if not willing to replace Nessun Dorma with Danny Boy. In Ireland yes, but would that also have happened in England?
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Post by rob49 on Dec 11, 2017 14:05:56 GMT -5
Try to imagine the response if Jackie had sung this on Britain's Got Talent, instead of Nessun Dorma. And I know Simon was the one directing Jackie to sing Nessun Dorma, but if Jackie would have been willing to sing Danny Boy, I don't believe there's any way Simon would not have at least made time for Jackie to sing both, if not willing to replace Nessun Dorma with Danny Boy. In Ireland yes, but would that also have happened in England? LIAM McNALLY STUNS THE AUDIENCE ON BRITAIN'S GOT TALENT SINGING DANNY BOY Published on May 23, 2010 17,750,708 view
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Post by richard on Dec 11, 2017 22:18:17 GMT -5
In Ireland yes, but would that also have happened in England? LIAM McNALLY STUNS THE AUDIENCE ON BRITAIN'S GOT TALENT SINGING DANNY BOY Published on May 23, 2010 17,750,708 view Liam McNally had the same problem Jackie has playing the little girl with the big voice they grow up
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Post by rob49 on Dec 11, 2017 23:13:54 GMT -5
LIAM McNALLY STUNS THE AUDIENCE ON BRITAIN'S GOT TALENT SINGING DANNY BOY Published on May 23, 2010 17,750,708 view Liam McNally had the same problem Jackie has playing the little girl with the big voice they grow up LOL You could not be more wrong. Liam and Jackie did not face the same problems, other than coming out of a reality show. No one mistakenly identified Liam as having a BIG voice, as the uninformed referred to Jackie's voice. And Jackie's voice was NEVER a Big Voice. Simon voiced the problem many knew would be facing Liam just months down the road from his BGT performance. Being a boy, Liam's voice would DROP during puberty, which was a known fact. Yes, just a couple years after AGT, there was some concern about what affect puberty would have on Jackie's voice, but it was nothing like what was known about what Liam WOULD experience. But by that time Jackie had already LOST most of those who were NEVER actual fans of Jackie's TRUE vocal skills. Those who were the fan of the newest star on the block, those who are only fans of young child stars, and the sick ones who follow children for reasons that have nothing to do with their talents.
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Post by richard on Dec 12, 2017 0:39:39 GMT -5
Liam McNally had the same problem Jackie has playing the little girl with the big voice they grow up LOL You could not be more wrong. Liam and Jackie did not face the same problems, other than coming out of a reality show. No one mistakenly identified Liam as having a BIG voice, as the uninformed referred to Jackie's voice. And Jackie's voice was NEVER a Big Voice. Simon voiced the problem many knew would be facing Liam just months down the road from his BGT performance. Being a boy, Liam's voice would DROP during puberty, which was a known fact. Yes, just a couple years after AGT, there was some concern about what affect puberty would have on Jackie's voice, but it was nothing like what was known about what Liam WOULD experience. But by that time Jackie had already LOST most of those who were NEVER actual fans of Jackie's TRUE vocal skills. Those who were the fan of the newest star on the block, those who are only fans of young child stars, and the sick ones who follow children for reasons that have nothing to do with their talents. rob49 are you saying Jackie's voice hasn't changed also since she was 10 years old. She does not sound like she did at 10. She lost one of her biggest novelties " a 10 year old that sounds like an adult opera singer " you should remember that, AGT and Sony and T/E pushed that as long as they could. I am not saying Jackie is not a great singer but her uniqueness has worn off there are plenty of good singers out there and it takes more than just talent. Some things are just not that tangible that you can put a name to, but it is the reason some make it and some don't. Right now Jackie needs to up her game if she still wants a booming career and I yet to see her put much back into her career. Old Danny Boy songs isn't going to do it. But at least she was seeing a new writer maybe they can come up with something.
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Post by rob49 on Dec 12, 2017 1:29:24 GMT -5
LOL You could not be more wrong. Liam and Jackie did not face the same problems, other than coming out of a reality show. No one mistakenly identified Liam as having a BIG voice, as the uninformed referred to Jackie's voice. And Jackie's voice was NEVER a Big Voice. Simon voiced the problem many knew would be facing Liam just months down the road from his BGT performance. Being a boy, Liam's voice would DROP during puberty, which was a known fact. Yes, just a couple years after AGT, there was some concern about what affect puberty would have on Jackie's voice, but it was nothing like what was known about what Liam WOULD experience. But by that time Jackie had already LOST most of those who were NEVER actual fans of Jackie's TRUE vocal skills. Those who were the fan of the newest star on the block, those who are only fans of young child stars, and the sick ones who follow children for reasons that have nothing to do with their talents. rob49 are you saying Jackie's voice hasn't changed also since she was 10 years old. She does not sound like she did at 10. She lost one of her biggest novelties " a 10 year old that sounds like an adult opera singer " you should remember that, AGT and Sony and T/E pushed that as long as they could. I am not saying Jackie is not a great singer but her uniqueness has worn off there are plenty of good singers out there and it takes more than just talent. Some things are just not that tangible that you can put a name to, but it is the reason some make it and some don't. Right now Jackie needs to up her game if she still wants a booming career and I yet to see her put much back into her career. Old Danny Boy songs isn't going to do it. But at least she was seeing a new writer maybe they can come up with something. Did you 'read' into my comment that Jackie's voice had not changed since she was 10? Not sounding as she did at 10, is not a loss. Your notion of Jackie's "biggest novelties" was never mine. And the future "loss" of those who shared your opinion was inevitable, and included in my comment, just worded differently. Your "not saying Jackie is not a great singer", is as close as you get to being right about anything. Then you reaffirm your complete lack of knowledge concerning musicality with your next couple of remarks. It is Jackie's many vocal skills that make her Truly unique, not the notion of the masses, that she was a "child who sounded like an opera singer", And although "there are plenty of good singers out there", there are extremely few who any pundit of vocal artistry would compare to Jackie. Your opinion of what matters is completely irrelevant, when talking about what makes a successful career, unless you are talking about yourself. You do NOT get to decide what anyone else has to do, are be.
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Post by Beachguy on Dec 12, 2017 12:33:26 GMT -5
rob49 are you saying Jackie's voice hasn't changed also since she was 10 years old. She does not sound like she did at 10. She lost one of her biggest novelties " a 10 year old that sounds like an adult opera singer " you should remember that, AGT and Sony and T/E pushed that as long as they could. I am not saying Jackie is not a great singer but her uniqueness has worn off there are plenty of good singers out there and it takes more than just talent. Some things are just not that tangible that you can put a name to, but it is the reason some make it and some don't. Right now Jackie needs to up her game if she still wants a booming career and I yet to see her put much back into her career. Old Danny Boy songs isn't going to do it. But at least she was seeing a new writer maybe they can come up with something. Did you 'read' into my comment that Jackie's voice had not changed since she was 10? Not sounding as she did at 10, is not a loss. Your notion of Jackie's "biggest novelties" was never mine. And the future "loss" of those who shared your opinion was inevitable, and included in my comment, just worded differently. Your "not saying Jackie is not a great singer", is as close as you get to being right about anything. Then you reaffirm your complete lack of knowledge concerning musicality with your next couple of remarks. It is Jackie's many vocal skills that make her Truly unique, not the notion of the masses, that she was a "child who sounded like an opera singer", And although "there are plenty of good singers out there", there are extremely few who any pundit of vocal artistry would compare to Jackie. Your opinion of what matters is completely irrelevant, when talking about what makes a successful career, unless you are talking about yourself. You do NOT get to decide what anyone else has to do, are be. all opinions mean little , Jackie is NOT a great singer but a very good singer with very good tone imo .
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Post by Beachguy on Dec 12, 2017 12:35:42 GMT -5
LOL You could not be more wrong. Liam and Jackie did not face the same problems, other than coming out of a reality show. No one mistakenly identified Liam as having a BIG voice, as the uninformed referred to Jackie's voice. And Jackie's voice was NEVER a Big Voice. Simon voiced the problem many knew would be facing Liam just months down the road from his BGT performance. Being a boy, Liam's voice would DROP during puberty, which was a known fact. Yes, just a couple years after AGT, there was some concern about what affect puberty would have on Jackie's voice, but it was nothing like what was known about what Liam WOULD experience. But by that time Jackie had already LOST most of those who were NEVER actual fans of Jackie's TRUE vocal skills. Those who were the fan of the newest star on the block, those who are only fans of young child stars, and the sick ones who follow children for reasons that have nothing to do with their talents. rob49 are you saying Jackie's voice hasn't changed also since she was 10 years old. She does not sound like she did at 10. She lost one of her biggest novelties " a 10 year old that sounds like an adult opera singer " you should remember that, AGT and Sony and T/E pushed that as long as they could. I am not saying Jackie is not a great singer but her uniqueness has worn off there are plenty of good singers out there and it takes more than just talent. Some things are just not that tangible that you can put a name to, but it is the reason some make it and some don't. Right now Jackie needs to up her game if she still wants a booming career and I yet to see her put much back into her career. Old Danny Boy songs isn't going to do it. But at least she was seeing a new writer maybe they can come up with something. Correct , she was special years ago but not now , watch these talent shows .
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Post by rob49 on Dec 12, 2017 14:45:41 GMT -5
Did you 'read' into my comment that Jackie's voice had not changed since she was 10? Not sounding as she did at 10, is not a loss. Your notion of Jackie's "biggest novelties" was never mine. And the future "loss" of those who shared your opinion was inevitable, and included in my comment, just worded differently. Your "not saying Jackie is not a great singer", is as close as you get to being right about anything. Then you reaffirm your complete lack of knowledge concerning musicality with your next couple of remarks. It is Jackie's many vocal skills that make her Truly unique, not the notion of the masses, that she was a "child who sounded like an opera singer", And although "there are plenty of good singers out there", there are extremely few who any pundit of vocal artistry would compare to Jackie. Your opinion of what matters is completely irrelevant, when talking about what makes a successful career, unless you are talking about yourself. You do NOT get to decide what anyone else has to do, are be. all opinions mean little , Jackie is NOT a great singer but a very good singer with very good tone imo . I am going to start calling you old tin ears
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Post by rob49 on Dec 12, 2017 14:50:14 GMT -5
rob49 are you saying Jackie's voice hasn't changed also since she was 10 years old. She does not sound like she did at 10. She lost one of her biggest novelties " a 10 year old that sounds like an adult opera singer " you should remember that, AGT and Sony and T/E pushed that as long as they could. I am not saying Jackie is not a great singer but her uniqueness has worn off there are plenty of good singers out there and it takes more than just talent. Some things are just not that tangible that you can put a name to, but it is the reason some make it and some don't. Right now Jackie needs to up her game if she still wants a booming career and I yet to see her put much back into her career. Old Danny Boy songs isn't going to do it. But at least she was seeing a new writer maybe they can come up with something. Correct , she was special years ago but not now , watch these talent shows . Well old tin ears, can you point to anyone you think from a recent talent show, or from anywhere, that your old tin ears feel is in even the same ballpark as Jackie.
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Post by Beachguy on Dec 14, 2017 11:50:18 GMT -5
Correct , she was special years ago but not now , watch these talent shows . Well old tin ears, can you point to anyone you think from a recent talent show, or from anywhere, that your old tin ears feel is in even the same ballpark as Jackie. i only hear and see from these shows passing by but there are singers Jackie could not match imo , not in soft sound but sounds and body movements on stage , it is not about tone but complete performance . Jackie is the same except age .
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Post by rob49 on Dec 14, 2017 13:46:39 GMT -5
Well old tin ears, can you point to anyone you think from a recent talent show, or from anywhere, that your old tin ears feel is in even the same ballpark as Jackie. i only hear and see from these shows passing by but there are singers Jackie could not match imo , not in soft sound but sounds and body movements on stage , it is not about tone but complete performance . Jackie is the same except age . Again old tin ears, you say Jackie is just a good singer among many others who are as good. I asked you to give examples of any, but you can't and don't, you just repeat your ridiculous claim. You know what they say, put up or shut up.
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Post by rob49 on Dec 14, 2017 13:48:30 GMT -5
i only hear and see from these shows passing by but there are singers Jackie could not match imo , not in soft sound but sounds and body movements on stage , it is not about tone but complete performance . Jackie is the same except age . Again old tin ears, you say Jackie is just a good singer among many others who are as good. I asked you to give examples of any, but you can't and don't, you just repeat your ridiculous claim. You know what they, put or shut up. If you can't give examples then it is obvious you are just spouting BS, and you know it.
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Post by Beachguy on Dec 15, 2017 10:46:43 GMT -5
Again old tin ears, you say Jackie is just a good singer among many others who are as good. I asked you to give examples of any, but you can't and don't, you just repeat your ridiculous claim. You know what they, put or shut up. If you can't give examples then it is obvious you are just spouting BS, and you know it. fake news , i said she was/is a VERY GOOD singer , get your eyes checked , ps i don't follow singers unless i just come across them , i have other interest as the Big Bang Or Cosmos Or Life Or Climate Or Death Or Health .
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