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Post by Beachguy on Oct 21, 2016 14:24:37 GMT -5
Perhaps bad hair day
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Post by Beachguy on Oct 21, 2016 14:31:36 GMT -5
I like her eye makeup there. She seems to be growing her hair again. I liked that last, shorter haircut. I thought it was classy. Sorry Mike but i like it long. The longer the better. They are mostly add on hair if long , perhaps why never a pony tail ? it might gallop away
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Post by jefan on Oct 21, 2016 17:20:18 GMT -5
Jackie's team should study what makes country artists successful, i.e. it is the fans who pay for the CD sales and attend the concerts. They go out of their way to acknowledge the various "fan" clubs and etc.
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Post by juxtaposer on Oct 21, 2016 17:34:17 GMT -5
Jackie's team should study what makes country artists successful, i.e. it is the fans who pay for the CD sales and attend the concerts. They go out of their way to acknowledge the various "fan" clubs and etc. Excuse me for my limited knowledge of what is called "Jackie's team", but who is her publicist? Does she have one?
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Post by jrchico on Oct 21, 2016 18:17:49 GMT -5
Jackie's team should study what makes country artists successful, i.e. it is the fans who pay for the CD sales and attend the concerts. They go out of their way to acknowledge the various "fan" clubs and etc. Excuse me for my limited knowledge of what is called "Jackie's team", but who is her publicist? Does she have one? Not that anyone here can tell. If she has one, she is being taken to the cleaners.
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Post by juxtaposer on Oct 21, 2016 19:47:02 GMT -5
Excuse me for my limited knowledge of what is called "Jackie's team", but who is her publicist? Does she have one? Not that anyone here can tell. If she has one, she is being taken to the cleaners. That is very surprising. Someone must line up her concerts and appearances. There would be some work in that.
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Post by jrchico on Oct 21, 2016 19:55:36 GMT -5
Not that anyone here can tell. If she has one, she is being taken to the cleaners. That is very surprising. Someone must line up her concerts and appearances. There would be some work in that. Sorry, you misunderstand. I was not talking about all of the good work done here, i was referring to concert and special appearance promotion which has been sadly lacking.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 22:32:32 GMT -5
In another thread I posted that I thought it unfair to blame Juliet for Jackie's decline in popularity. A more plausible reason would be this dismissive attitude shown toward Jackie's fans by her team. It's been going on for about two years now, this feeling that they consider us an annoyance, or worse. At best, a necessary evil. The management of other artists go a long way toward making fans feel appreciated. I don't see that here. In fact, I get the impression they'd just as soon be rid of us old farts if they could replace us with younger, more hip folks. Unfortunately, the behavior of a few may have poisoned her attitude to fans that fit into a broader category, those who have felt an emotional reaction to her daughter, and follow her assiduously, as opposed to those who just like her music. Can you imagine what the impact was, of the violent death of that other singer? Yes, I can imagine it. I can also imagine that other singers and their families were affected in just the same way. Yet, I doubt that many of the other singers' fan bases had their activities disrupted by the singer's management. Since there is little promotion of Jackie's concerts, word of mouth is essential. When inter-fan communication is disrupted by the removal of a popular platform such as the old PB Forum, it's little wonder that the ensuing concerts would be so sparsely attended.
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Post by Beachguy on Oct 22, 2016 7:40:21 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the behavior of a few may have poisoned her attitude to fans that fit into a broader category, those who have felt an emotional reaction to her daughter, and follow her assiduously, as opposed to those who just like her music. Can you imagine what the impact was, of the violent death of that other singer? Yes, I can imagine it. I can also imagine that other singers and their families were affected in just the same way. Yet, I doubt that many of the other singers' fan bases had their activities disrupted by the singer's management. Since there is little promotion of Jackie's concerts, word of mouth is essential. When inter-fan communication is disrupted by the removal of a popular platform such as the old PB Forum, it's little wonder that the ensuing concerts would be so sparsely attended. I believe if she has a PR person or PR Dept she should replace as it seems little connection to the buying public
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Post by rick158 on Oct 22, 2016 8:26:33 GMT -5
I'm not aware of any particular "publicist" but she has been managed by Marc Johnson for as long as I can recall.
I sincerely believe the Evancho's can and will step up the publicity in the Spring leading up to the release of the independent album, but may be purposely laying low during this period to finish out their obligation to Sony. It seems like the past six or eight months there was a lot of behind the scenes strife and likely the demise of the Proboards site, Lisa's personal public facebook page and the drama surrounding "the Amazing Jackie Evancho" facebook page were the catalyst for the current lack of public presence.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and you'd think they would want the Christmas album to do as well as possible, but Sony doesn't seem too awfully concerned based on the level of effort they are putting into it.
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Post by chris on Oct 22, 2016 8:28:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the behavior of a few may have poisoned her attitude to fans that fit into a broader category, those who have felt an emotional reaction to her daughter, and follow her assiduously, as opposed to those who just like her music. Can you imagine what the impact was, of the violent death of that other singer? Yes, I can imagine it. I can also imagine that other singers and their families were affected in just the same way. Yet, I doubt that many of the other singers' fan bases had their activities disrupted by the singer's management. Since there is little promotion of Jackie's concerts, word of mouth is essential. When inter-fan communication is disrupted by the removal of a popular platform such as the old PB Forum, it's little wonder that the ensuing concerts would be so sparsely attended. Do you mean Christine Grimme.??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 9:03:25 GMT -5
Yes, I can imagine it. I can also imagine that other singers and their families were affected in just the same way. Yet, I doubt that many of the other singers' fan bases had their activities disrupted by the singer's management. Since there is little promotion of Jackie's concerts, word of mouth is essential. When inter-fan communication is disrupted by the removal of a popular platform such as the old PB Forum, it's little wonder that the ensuing concerts would be so sparsely attended. Do you mean Christine Grimme.?? I assumed that was who schrodinger meant. Doesn't matter. Could be any celebrity assaulted by a lunatic fan. So, double, triple, even quadruple security measures if deemed necessary. But managing security and managing public relations are two different things.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 9:15:47 GMT -5
Sorry, but blaming the "Evil Corporation" for Jackie's lack of promotion just lets those others (who should be doing her concert promotion) off the hook. If indeed Sony plays a part, then it still falls back on whoever reviewed and agreed to the contract Jackie "suffers" under... in other words, still a bad management move. I'm not aware of any particular "publicist" but she has been managed by Marc Johnson for as long as I can recall. I sincerely believe the Evancho's can and will step up the publicity in the Spring leading up to the release of the independent album, but may be purposely laying low during this period to finish out their obligation to Sony. It seems like the past six or eight months there was a lot of behind the scenes strife and likely the demise of the Proboards site, Lisa's personal public facebook page and the drama surrounding "the Amazing Jackie Evancho" facebook page were the catalyst for the current lack of public presence. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and you'd think they would want the Christmas album to do as well as possible, but Sony doesn't seem too awfully concerned based on the level of effort they are putting into it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 11:45:22 GMT -5
Plausible, but still doesn't excuse the lack of promotion... why even schedule concerts if you aren't going to promote them?
They don't have to promote it as a new album tour for now... but I think they could advertise better than has been done so far.
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Post by rick158 on Oct 22, 2016 12:06:01 GMT -5
Sorry, but blaming the "Evil Corporation" for Jackie's lack of promotion just lets those others (who should be doing her concert promotion) off the hook. If indeed Sony plays a part, then it still falls back on whoever reviewed and agreed to the contract Jackie "suffers" under... in other words, still a bad management move. I'm not aware of any particular "publicist" but she has been managed by Marc Johnson for as long as I can recall. I sincerely believe the Evancho's can and will step up the publicity in the Spring leading up to the release of the independent album, but may be purposely laying low during this period to finish out their obligation to Sony. It seems like the past six or eight months there was a lot of behind the scenes strife and likely the demise of the Proboards site, Lisa's personal public facebook page and the drama surrounding "the Amazing Jackie Evancho" facebook page were the catalyst for the current lack of public presence. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and you'd think they would want the Christmas album to do as well as possible, but Sony doesn't seem too awfully concerned based on the level of effort they are putting into it. I'm not blaming anyone, just relaying what I think is a likely explanation. The mis-management argument I've heard time and again, but as I have told my employees, decisions from the cheap seats after the fact are easy. It's a bit different when riding the high of success and your situation only looks like it will improve. There are a lot of things I would have done differently in my life had I known what was going to happen. I suspect the contract was the best they could get and Marc et al did their very best to ensure success. For good and bad, stuff happens. Sometimes you can control it, others times you can't.
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