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Post by bounderdriver on Oct 23, 2022 19:04:49 GMT -5
I would love to get the chance to ask, "if you had not been eliminated, what other songs did you have ready to perform on the masked singer?” |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 19:13:08 GMT -5
I would love to get the chance to ask, "if you had not been eliminated, what other songs did you have ready to perform on the masked singer?” She did mention in an interview that she considered singing "You're so Vain". |
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Post by rlhamil on Oct 24, 2022 2:42:53 GMT -5
I would love to get the chance to ask, "if you had not been eliminated, what other songs did you have ready to perform on the masked singer?” TMS has made the point that they accommodate some that cannot be available for the entire shooting schedule. Both Jackie and Bret Michaels (maybe others that season too, but those are the ones I know of) were eliminated roughly when they were for that reason rather than for performance reasons alone, although TMS does NOT directly state that implication of their policy, but prefer to let viewers incorrectly infer that it's only performance as evaluated by panel or voting audience that decides outcomes. In the fine print, most of these event competition shows reserve the right to determine outcomes for reasons other than votes or judges. So while a guest may well have had more songs in mind than they performed, they probably did NOT rehearse much more than they presented. Also remember the skateboarder guy that said he had one more song in him, but that was about it. She did mention in an interview that she considered singing "You're so Vain". Thanks - I don't recall whether I'd heard that or not, but I can certainly imagine that it would cross her mind to sing that. :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 4:16:00 GMT -5
I would love to get the chance to ask, "if you had not been eliminated, what other songs did you have ready to perform on the masked singer?” TMS has made the point that they accommodate some that cannot be available for the entire shooting schedule. Both Jackie and Bret Michaels (maybe others that season too, but those are the ones I know of) were eliminated roughly when they were for that reason rather than for performance reasons alone, although TMS does NOT directly state that implication of their policy, but prefer to let viewers incorrectly infer that it's only performance as evaluated by panel or voting audience that decides outcomes. In the fine print, most of these event competition shows reserve the right to determine outcomes for reasons other than votes or judges. So while a guest may well have had more songs in mind than they performed, they probably did NOT rehearse much more than they presented. Also remember the skateboarder guy that said he had one more song in him, but that was about it. She did mention in an interview that she considered singing "You're so Vain". Thanks - I don't recall whether I'd heard that or not, but I can certainly imagine that it would cross her mind to sing that. :-) One of my favorite songs. That's what I'd like to hear from Jackie. |
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Post by jcas on Oct 24, 2022 5:42:03 GMT -5
When Marilyn Monroe sang, Diamonds Are A Girls Best Friend, there was no doubt about it. From very young, still sweet little, Jackie .... not so much.  Here's why. |
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Post by lawrence on Oct 24, 2022 10:10:42 GMT -5
TMS has made the point that they accommodate some that cannot be available for the entire shooting schedule. Both Jackie and Bret Michaels (maybe others that season too, but those are the ones I know of) were eliminated roughly when they were for that reason rather than for performance reasons alone, although TMS does NOT directly state that implication of their policy, but prefer to let viewers incorrectly infer that it's only performance as evaluated by panel or voting audience that decides outcomes. In the fine print, most of these event competition shows reserve the right to determine outcomes for reasons other than votes or judges. So while a guest may well have had more songs in mind than they performed, they probably did NOT rehearse much more than they presented. Also remember the skateboarder guy that said he had one more song in him, but that was about it. There was much discussion among fans in the TMS video comment sections with regard to Jackie being eliminated in the quarter-finals as a necessity because of a conflict with her concert schedule. Most everyone knew she had concerts scheduled in Utah and Colorado the last week of filming. It also seemed strange, in retrospect, that Brett was eliminated earlier in the Smackdown episode with Jackie, he being a rock star and a much bigger celebrity. And yet, Jackie was eliminated while Barry Zito, a baseball star/celebrity moved on to the final 4. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 11:33:00 GMT -5
TMS has made the point that they accommodate some that cannot be available for the entire shooting schedule. Both Jackie and Bret Michaels (maybe others that season too, but those are the ones I know of) were eliminated roughly when they were for that reason rather than for performance reasons alone, although TMS does NOT directly state that implication of their policy, but prefer to let viewers incorrectly infer that it's only performance as evaluated by panel or voting audience that decides outcomes. In the fine print, most of these event competition shows reserve the right to determine outcomes for reasons other than votes or judges. So while a guest may well have had more songs in mind than they performed, they probably did NOT rehearse much more than they presented. Also remember the skateboarder guy that said he had one more song in him, but that was about it. There was much discussion among fans in the TMS video comment sections with regard to Jackie being eliminated in the quarter-finals as a necessity because of a conflict with her concert schedule. Most everyone knew she had concerts scheduled in Utah and Colorado the last week of filming. It also seemed strange, in retrospect, that Brett was eliminated earlier in the Smackdown episode with Jackie, he being a rock star and a much bigger celebrity. And yet, Jackie was eliminated while Barry Zito, a baseball star/celebrity moved on to the final 4. What a bunch of nonsense... don't buy for a second that she was eliminated due to her "scheduling confilicts". That's called rationalization. Viewers called in and voted...they had no idea what her "scheduling conflicts" were. lol Sounds like some OTTs trying to come up with conspiracy theories as to why Jackie was eliminated as early as she was. |
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Post by lawrence on Oct 24, 2022 12:34:49 GMT -5
There was much discussion among fans in the TMS video comment sections with regard to Jackie being eliminated in the quarter-finals as a necessity because of a conflict with her concert schedule. Most everyone knew she had concerts scheduled in Utah and Colorado the last week of filming. It also seemed strange, in retrospect, that Brett was eliminated earlier in the Smackdown episode with Jackie, he being a rock star and a much bigger celebrity. And yet, Jackie was eliminated while Barry Zito, a baseball star/celebrity moved on to the final 4. What a bunch of nonsense... don't buy for a second that she was eliminated due to her "scheduling confilicts". That's called rationalization. Viewers called in and voted...they had no idea what her "scheduling conflicts" were. lol Sounds like some OTTs trying to come up with conspiracy theories as to why Jackie was eliminated as early as she was. It was not open to public voting. Viewers watched the prerecorded performances. The voting was in-house with the selected studio audience and the judges who represented 50% of the vote. The producers of course knew Jackie's concert schedule. Some can't accept that as rlhamil stated, "TMS has made the point that they accommodate some that cannot be available for the entire shooting schedule." and that producers "reserve the right to determine outcomes for reasons other than votes or judges". That being the case, it is not an unreasonable consideration that Jackie could not participate in filming beyond to the final 4, and it was therefore determined that she would be eliminated in the quarter-finals to accommodate her schedule. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 14:01:11 GMT -5
What a bunch of nonsense... don't buy for a second that she was eliminated due to her "scheduling confilicts". That's called rationalization. Viewers called in and voted...they had no idea what her "scheduling conflicts" were. lol Sounds like some OTTs trying to come up with conspiracy theories as to why Jackie was eliminated as early as she was. It was not open to public voting. Viewers watched the prerecorded performances. The voting was in-house with the selected studio audience and the judges who represented 50% of the vote. The producers of course knew Jackie's concert schedule. Some can't accept that as rlhamil stated, "TMS has made the point that they accommodate some that cannot be available for the entire shooting schedule." and that producers "reserve the right to determine outcomes for reasons other than votes or judges". That being the case, it is not an unreasonable consideration that Jackie could not participate in filming beyond to the final 4, and it was therefore determined that she would be eliminated in the quarter-finals to accommodate her schedule. That's right, I did forget exactly how they did the voting...and I hated it. However, I make the same point. Jackie didn't get "voted off" due to any "scheduling conflicts", she got voted off because her performances didn't garner the needed votes to move on. Nothing would have been better for Jackie's Career at that point than to stay on that show longer or even win. She lost legitimately, and OTTs need to learn to accept that gracefully instead of trying to invent other underlying reasons to help them rationalize why she lost when she did. lol Many tried do the same thing when Jackie lost in finals of AGT. "oh, they made it so that he would win because a Vegas act wouldnt work well for a ten year old", etc. Michael Grimm just got more votes...it wasn't the show "fixing it" so that he won because Vegas was no place for Jackie. lol I guarantee Jackie wanted to win that in a bad way, and the show doesn't "fix" results...or at least there has been zero evidence that they have ever done that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 14:35:44 GMT -5
When Marilyn Monroe sang, Diamonds Are A Girls Best Friend, there was no doubt about it. From very young, still sweet little, Jackie .... not so much. Here's why. A few dancers, an orchestra and a large stage would have a completely different effect. Vocally, Jackie is better by classes. btw, Jane Russell was also a better singer than Marilyn. |
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Post by lawrence on Oct 24, 2022 15:05:16 GMT -5
Nothing would have been better for Jackie's Career at that point than to stay on that show longer or even win. If the TV audience of 7M had been able to vote, it's conceivable that she would have gone farther, possibly to win. YouTube views of her performances combined were far greater than either of the final 3 (over 3M) with a combined Thumbs Up percentage of 97%....Dangerous Woman alone had over 1.3M views with 98% Thumbs Up. She really was the fan favorite as predicted early in the show by Robin Thicke. Furthermore, it was suspicious that the TMS video of that performance was deleted the day of the finale, the only video not remaining at the end of the season. You may think that she didn't measure to going further, but there were countless comments complaining that she hadn't advanced posted by viewers, many of whom didn't even know who Jackie Evancho is. Your dismissiveness seems a reluctance to even investigate the policies of talent shows such as the AGT franchise and TMS (which isn't really a singing competition, but an entertainment show not open to public vote for reasons obvious to logical thinking people). These shows are about ratings above all. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2022 16:58:41 GMT -5
Nothing would have been better for Jackie's Career at that point than to stay on that show longer or even win. If the TV audience of 7M had been able to vote, it's conceivable that she would have gone farther, possibly to win. YouTube views of her performances combined were far greater than either of the final 3 (over 3M) with a combined Thumbs Up percentage of 97%....Dangerous Woman alone had over 1.3M views with 98% Thumbs Up. She really was the fan favorite as predicted early in the show by Robin Thicke. Furthermore, it was suspicious that the TMS video of that performance was deleted the day of the finale, the only video not remaining at the end of the season. You may think that she didn't measure to going further, but there were countless comments complaining that she hadn't advanced posted by viewers, many of whom didn't even know who Jackie Evancho is. Your dismissiveness seems a reluctance to even investigate the policies of talent shows such as the AGT franchise and TMS (which isn't really a singing competition, but an entertainment show not open to public vote for reasons obvious to logical thinking people). These shows are about ratings above all. Yes, there are always some disgruntled fans when their favorite singer, or Kitty, gets eliminated. I have not only never seen evidence of the shows misleading or fixing vote totals, I've never even seen any credible accusations of it. When you hear any, let me know. Until then, it's just sore fans unhappy their fav didn't make the next round. As far as Jackie is concerned...she is having trouble drawing 100 ticket holders to her Winery concerts, her fan base is disappearing rapidly, and most Americans don't know who she is today. Jackie was certainly nowhere near a favorite to win AGT Legends-she wasn't even recognizable to most who haven't followed her career as she's all grown up. TMS - Kitty had a lot of fans, but she wasn't as cool as some others like that Toad guy. lol Why you can't seem to accept it as legit when Jackie loses is beyond me. I love Jackie and her voice, but she isn't very popular or even known today by the vast majority of Americans. And her older and declining fan base has been literally dying off for years. It's just a fact of life, and not at all surprising when she loses to more popular and well known personalities. |
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Post by msims on Oct 24, 2022 22:39:09 GMT -5
www.who.com.au/the-masked-singer-completely-rigged I have explained to you a number of times donkey that she is/was considered a fan favorite of her season on TMS (and the youtube hits on DW prove that too). Some of the comments when the winner was announced were if they were going to pick a female to win, then it should have been Jackie. It was explained at the time that some of the taping dates coincided with her tour schedule. On AGT she is the most successful recording artist in the whole series. Jackie's finale on AGT is still the most highest rated episode of the entire series. The very next day she was signed to Columbia on 9/16 two months after that date is when the Holiday EP/DVD was released and six weeks after that it sold a million copies. Again that is according to Soundscan and the platinum is on the riaa's database. It also sold 80k in Canada, going platinum in canada by Jan. Btw both subsequent albums went gold. That so called viral audition that spurred it all, im sure dwarfs alot of the viral videos that have happened since then but it was the result that matters the most over 3 million+ in sales on Columbia alone and yet the real success and money is in the touring. With over 180 gigs already we have seen on this mini tour the minimum ticket prices of $45 to upwards of $75 and shes bringing in according to Len on average 1/4 to 1/3 in Boston/DC/Philly. Nashville was 2/3rds.
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Post by ursus on Dec 16, 2022 12:02:54 GMT -5
Just looked at the ticket page, it appears to me that only 34 tickets have been sold. She was on the local ABC morning program, which many people watch, she sang and promoted the event. The location is in Northeast, a Washington Commanders football player was shot twice in the leg there while going out to dinner. Probably not related to low ticket sales, but it doesn't make me want to visit Northeast. Hoping that ticket number at least doubles before the show.  |
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Here's why. 
