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Post by Julia Trenholm on Jan 8, 2019 14:25:03 GMT -5
LOL Right people go to a taping that drags on for EIGHT HOURS, but have no personal interest in anyone that will be performing!!! Your comment is what is a failed attempt of trolling at it's worst, being that it is so obviously idiotic. Sure Rob, that is why that audience seemed rather pumped after each and everyone of those performances..... must have been drinking a lot of coffee. Might I suggest Rob that you keep this version of yourself over at the other site. I want to see if those leaked reports of Jackie's performance are true, and the audience reaction was truly lukewarm at best. To be fair, I only saw one comment on the Leakers' site about Jackie and that was the one about her "not being the best in the room that night" Jackie was up against some of the best 10 acts of the 50 competing in her segment, not many, or any of them, singers. That doesn't mean she gave a so so performance as a vocalist, just that the audience on that particular night enjoyed other performers more. I'm sure she sang just as well as always and, thank God, was wearing the white dress slit to the navel (from a clip I saw) and not the new gold one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 18:40:12 GMT -5
IMO opera and to a greater extent classical crossover is simply not music adopted by the US in comparison to Europe. The Grammy's do not even recognize classical crossover as a genre. That is part of the reason why Jackie and others in that genre will never be truly successful in the way pop rock vocalists are. Unless you are one of the pioneers, i.e. Sarah Brightman. She's made her millions but that time has passed. Unless you're an Italian male or males. Jackie has been advised to call herself adult contemporary, apparently, which makes more sense. And that's basically musical theater and other current songs with melodies and intelligent lyrics. Adele and Ed Sheeran and Michael Buble seem to be the current big sellers in that genre.
Sarah is not really a good comparison vs Jackie and success. I say this because Sarah being married to ALW had the benefit of having a great musical created for her --- POTO. If Jackie had a composer of that calibre that created a Broadway musical specifically for her then I believe her recognition would significantly change. However, even the most successful Broadway creation for her will not make the music industry recognize classical crossover. Perhaps if it was a Country and Western Broadway production she might become the young woman that greatly upset the music world by mixing classical with C&W …… lol. I watched a TV concert of Sarah's and most of it was pop and contemporary with some bordering on rock and very little classical. She has moved away from her classical roots and become more mainstream in her concerts. Perhaps it is an approach she is using for the North American audience. Buble is more like an upscale Frank Sinatra, a late Barry White or softer Sting.
But I do agree with you when you state that a successful classical crossover belongs to the pioneers of the vanishing genre. I still believe that for Jackie to achieve more "financial" success she will need to train herself to be able to comfortably 'belt' without harming her vocals. This would open the door for her to connect with more composers of current music.
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Post by rob49 on Jan 8, 2019 21:54:44 GMT -5
LOL Right people go to a taping that drags on for EIGHT HOURS, but have no personal interest in anyone that will be performing!!! Your comment is what is a failed attempt of trolling at it's worst, being that it is so obviously idiotic. Sure Rob, that is why that audience seemed rather pumped after each and everyone of those performances..... must have been drinking a lot of coffee. Might I suggest Rob that you keep this version of yourself over at the other site. I want to see if those leaked reports of Jackie's performance are true, and the audience reaction was truly lukewarm at best. Tell you what cer, if the audience reaction to Jackie is lukewarm at best, I will never post a comment here again. And if the audience reaction to Jackie is better than lukewarm you can never post here again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 23:07:40 GMT -5
Sure Rob, that is why that audience seemed rather pumped after each and everyone of those performances..... must have been drinking a lot of coffee. Might I suggest Rob that you keep this version of yourself over at the other site. I want to see if those leaked reports of Jackie's performance are true, and the audience reaction was truly lukewarm at best. Tell you what cer, if the audience reaction to Jackie is lukewarm at best, I will never post a comment here again. And if the audience reaction to Jackie is better than lukewarm you can never post here again. I'm stating only what I have read. By the way in regards to your little bet... I don't believe you... so forget about it. I actually hope those leaked reports are incorrect.
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Post by rob49 on Jan 9, 2019 3:08:06 GMT -5
Tell you what cer, if the audience reaction to Jackie is lukewarm at best, I will never post a comment here again. And if the audience reaction to Jackie is better than lukewarm you can never post here again. I'm stating only what I have read. By the way in regards to your little bet... I don't believe you... so forget about it. I actually hope those leaked reports are incorrect. I knew when I posted that bet I was the ONLY ONE of us that would keep his word when given. But I also knew you would BACK DOWN. You never believed the crap you posted, you just posted it to demean Jackie, that is your sole purpose here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 8:32:24 GMT -5
I'm stating only what I have read. By the way in regards to your little bet... I don't believe you... so forget about it. I actually hope those leaked reports are incorrect. I knew when I posted that bet I was the ONLY ONE of us that would keep his word when given. But I also knew you would BACK DOWN. You never believed the crap you posted, you just posted it to demean Jackie, that is your sole purpose here. So far the leak info has been fairly accurate. So, time will tell, if the info on Jackie is accurate as well. So, spare me with your demean JE nonsense because I made it very clear that I hope I'm wrong. By the way Rob, those folks like myself who remember you from the old Amazon days know that even if you left under this name, you would just come back under a new one. That is why I don't take your bet in any way seriously because you are just too OTT to keep it.
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Post by rob49 on Jan 9, 2019 18:46:22 GMT -5
I knew when I posted that bet I was the ONLY ONE of us that would keep his word when given. But I also knew you would BACK DOWN. You never believed the crap you posted, you just posted it to demean Jackie, that is your sole purpose here. So far the leak info has been fairly accurate. So, time will tell, if the info on Jackie is accurate as well. So, spare me with your demean JE nonsense because I made it very clear that I hope I'm wrong. By the way Rob, those folks like myself who remember you from the old Amazon days know that even if you left under this name, you would just come back under a new one. That is why I don't take your bet in any way seriously because you are just too OTT to keep it. LOL yea, sure you are
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 20:38:55 GMT -5
So far the leak info has been fairly accurate. So, time will tell, if the info on Jackie is accurate as well. So, spare me with your demean JE nonsense because I made it very clear that I hope I'm wrong. By the way Rob, those folks like myself who remember you from the old Amazon days know that even if you left under this name, you would just come back under a new one. That is why I don't take your bet in any way seriously because you are just too OTT to keep it. LOL yea, sure you are Actually I do hope that I'm wrong. I would love to see this leaked info go down in flames.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 21:06:40 GMT -5
LOL Right people go to a taping that drags on for EIGHT HOURS, but have no personal interest in anyone that will be performing!!! Your comment is what is a failed attempt of trolling at it's worst, being that it is so obviously idiotic. Sure Rob, that is why that audience seemed rather pumped after each and everyone of those performances..... must have been drinking a lot of coffee. Might I suggest Rob that you keep this version of yourself over at the other site. I want to see if those leaked reports of Jackie's performance are true, and the audience reaction was truly lukewarm at best. Cer, I only read leaks at one site and I only saw one comment about her actual performance. The person didn't say that the reaction to JE was lukewarm. This is the comment: Next up, was Jackie Evancho. I'm kinda surprised she was put in this spot considering her success. Her performance was good, but otherwise average for the night. I'm sure the reaction was very good. I think the audience would have been encouraged to applaud loudly for everyone, even if the act sucked. This Championship show isn't for auditions and it's not like the Got Talent shows used to be where they put talentless, oddballs on the stage just so that people could ridicule them. They considered that entertainment. And even if she didn't get put through to the next round, we can be assured that she didn't suck. LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 21:58:22 GMT -5
Frankly, if were able I would have strongly advised Jackie NOT to enter this AGT spectacle. When she appeared on it 8 years ago she had the uniqueness of being a child prodigy with an unusual, pitch perfect, mature voice. Now she is as mature as her voice now is so she has lost that uniqueness and simply is a young woman with a very good vocal sound.
In other words, she has now grown into matching what she sounded like at 10. Her vocals match her maturity. Unless a judge has closely followed her career like a loyal fan then they will tend to see something less than what she presented at 10.
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Post by rickolsen on Jan 9, 2019 22:08:22 GMT -5
Maybe Jackie sang a pop song. Maybe Pedestal. I submit that Pedestal wouldn't impress anybody. Jackie thinks it is special because she helped write it. I submit it is a very boring song and so is the voice she sings it with.
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Post by msims on Jan 10, 2019 1:07:22 GMT -5
Notice the shot of her in the opening of the first show. It showed her among flowers and the song that references flowers is "Lovers". I hope im right on this one and she doings it. It would be perfect. If not, at least she looked beautiful singing. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 7:39:25 GMT -5
I really don't think it matters what she sings. Remember the 50 states judges are watching around the country and they chose to pick a guy that was able to walk out and talk for a couple of minutes. That's talent. I won't mention his content. Pretty, sweet, talented doesn't get votes. A sad story and being really immoral gets votes. Did you guys not watch Sofie? imho
And More: Just read on America's Sweetheart JE facebook. Many are agreeing with me. It's entertainment.
One thing you may have not noticed. Jackie has been able to have AGT let her perform around a CD release. 2014, blue sparkly dress, Awakening, and 2016, snowflake dress and curly hair, SDAC. That's a good way to be seen by at least a billion, sic, new fans.
Sorry, skipped the first one. 2011, DWM, in LA and London, ND.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 9:37:33 GMT -5
I really don't think it matters what she sings. Remember the 50 states judges are watching around the country and they chose to pick a guy that was able to walk out and talk for a couple of minutes. That's talent. I won't mention his content. Pretty, sweet, talented doesn't get votes. A sad story and being really immoral gets votes. Did you guys not watch Sofie? imho And More: Just read on America's Sweetheart JE facebook. Many are agreeing with me. It's entertainment. One thing you may have not noticed. Jackie has been able to have AGT let her perform around a CD release. 2014, blue sparkly dress, Awakening, and 2016, snowflake dress and curly hair, SDAC. That's a good way to be seen by at least a billion, sic, new fans. Hopefully this time it will actually increase her record sales and truly expand her fan base. I hope this will all be worth it for her.
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Post by msims on Jan 11, 2019 3:55:39 GMT -5
Hopefully this time it will actually increase her record sales and truly expand her fan base. Everytime she performs on tv she increases her record sales and its typically middle age women who watch agt (with some younger people too) and that's the audience she needs to buy her albums. Mainly adult women.
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