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Post by fatwombat on Aug 28, 2016 7:25:22 GMT -5
Looking for a person or people with enough expertise (and time) to regularly compile stats on Jackie and the progress in her career, particularly in the following categories:-
*CD sales
*Youtube views
*Concert attendance figures
These are just my thoughts and are obviously open to discussion and change.
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Post by robinb on Aug 28, 2016 8:35:51 GMT -5
Youtube views - Jackie's recent 'pop' music(This is an external link, so the image will change whenever I update it.)
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Post by pgantioch on Aug 28, 2016 9:58:30 GMT -5
Youtube views - Jackie's recent 'pop' music(This is an external link, so the image will change whenever I update it.) These are quite interesting. What's up with the acceleration in views of AOTS over the past month or so (2016 Aug)? Edit: Oops, I now see this was discussed on the other thread...
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Post by robinb on Sept 13, 2016 11:31:30 GMT -5
A search on Youtube for "A Capital Fourth" finds 33,500 videos. Only 5 of these have over 200,000 views. They are:
Jackie Evancho 2013 6,941,128 Can You Feel The Love Tonight Jackie Evancho 2016 597,315 God Bless America (now over 650,000) Frankie Valli 2014 420,254 Josh Groban 2011 403,088 War At Home Jackie Evancho 2013 352,836 The Star Spangled Banner
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Post by fatwombat on Sept 28, 2016 1:13:06 GMT -5
CONCERT ATTENDANCES 2016
Jan 16 Lakeland, Florida.....? Jan 17 Melbourne, Florida.....797/1109 March 19 Midland, Texas......565/1047 April 28 Morristown, New Jersey....? July 24 Milwaukee, Wisconsin....? If anyone can help fill in the blanks it would be appreciated.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 10:42:06 GMT -5
Arm chair quarterbacking of Growing Up Evancho: In a (rough) scientific way, I tried to measure Jackie's versus Juliet's popularity during their Special. I first looked at Wikipedia page hits during the special, and "hits" for "Jackie Evancho" are far higher, 13,800 versus 36 hits. Supposedly this is search attempts, not actual page views. But this possibly might not be a fair comparison, as Juliet does not have a Wikipedia page. I then looked at the number of Google search hits for "Jackie Evancho" versus "Juliet Evancho". Jackie had many more "Hits" during the Special (see the comparison chart): trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Jackie%20Evancho,Juliet%20Evancho ( Can't download the comparison chart, so see picture below)This is despite Juliet having more screen time than Jackie. Of course most people Google a person when they do NOT know them (non-fans). My conclusion is many more (non-fans) wanted to know more about Jackie during and after the show than Juliet. I suspect the producers were dead wrong, that Jackie (and her music) was more popular than Juliet, so Jackie should have been emphasized more, not Juliet. Juliet acted far more dramatically than Jackie with her facial expressions, crying and so on; perhaps the producers thought such drama was needed for such a "reality" show. Recall how Mike's "Straight Man" role was "spiced up" by the producers by showing his distaste for cats (whether real or not). And the Transgender subject fit right into their show lineup, another reason the producers might have emphasized Juliet. Again, they would have done better focusing on the far more popular sister, in my opinion. I think more singing (say, her closing vincero's of "Nessun Dorma", including songs on the interview shows) would have greatly boosted popularity and "buzz". This was Juliet's Moment, so I have no hard feelings for her. Don edited Click to enlarge, Jackie is in blue:
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Post by believer on Aug 14, 2017 11:16:31 GMT -5
I got so excited when I saw the WOW button, and your analysis was so complete, fair and thorough, I saw this as a great opportunity to offer up my first WOW
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Post by Gato on Aug 14, 2017 11:47:45 GMT -5
Terrific effort don', thanks for sharing that!
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Post by Yasmine E. on Oct 26, 2017 20:13:04 GMT -5
Transferred from the Guest thread that may go away: Oct 10, 2017 12:32:35 GMT -7 Yasmine E. said: Interesting to note Jackie has actually LOST YouTube subscribers since the new 'behind the scenes of Pedestal' YouTube video went up. Puzzling because most new videos should GAIN fans. Is it a fluke or could there be something to it?
10/09/2017 YouTube subscribers gained+,lost-/total (EDT)
2017-10-09 14:00 +2 81,365 15:00 -2 81,363 16:00 -2 81,361 17:00 -11 81,350 18:00 -3 81,347 19:00 -5 81,342 20:00 -- 81,342 21:00 -3 81,339 22:00 -2 81,337 23:00 -- 81,337 2017-10-10 - 00:00 -1 81,336 01:00 -4 81,332 02:00 +2 81,334 03:00 +3 81,337 04:00 +1 81,338 05:00 -- 81,338 06:00 +1 81,339 07:00 -2 81,337 08:00 +2 81,339 09:00 -1 81,338 10:00 -- 81,338 11:00 -- 81,338 12:00 -- 81,338 13:00 +1 81,339 14:00 +1 81,340 15:00 -- 81,340
Lost (-25) verses average daily growth +35 per day last month
In comparison, since 14:00 EDT 10/09 the same time period: +3,265 Lindsey Stirling YouTube +2,159 Grace VanderWaal VeVo YouTube +1,315 Angelica Hale YouTube
socialblade.com/youtube/user/usedmeb4/monthly
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 22:05:05 GMT -5
Jackie's YouTube trend isn't great nor are her concert attendance numbers these days.
What are the big issues!? Lack of new music, poor management, poor advertising, lack of interest in CC singers, OR all of these things combined!?
Big question, can she still turn this trend around!? I say YES, what do you all think!?
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Post by javier on Oct 27, 2017 1:52:59 GMT -5
Jackie's YouTube trend isn't great nor are her concert attendance numbers these days. What are the big issues!? Lack of new music, poor management, poor advertising, lack of interest in CC singers, OR all of these things combined!? Big question, can she still turn this trend around!? I say YES, what do you all think!? Lack of new music is certainly not the reason. She released a whole set of pop songs, with little effect on her popularity (Which shows that this is not the direction to go). The problem lies in poor management and advertising. There is certainly no lack of interest in CC singers. Sarah Brightman and Katherin Jenkins are all doing well.
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Post by ursus on Oct 27, 2017 3:13:50 GMT -5
Jackie's YouTube trend isn't great nor are her concert attendance numbers these days. What are the big issues!? Lack of new music, poor management, poor advertising, lack of interest in CC singers, OR all of these things combined!? Big question, can she still turn this trend around!? I say YES, what do you all think!? Lack of new music is certainly not the reason. She released a whole set of pop songs, with little effect on her popularity (Which shows that this is not the direction to go). The problem lies in poor management and advertising. There is certainly no lack of interest in CC singers. Sarah Brightman and Katherin Jenkins are all doing well. SB is not in the US, and I don't think KJ is either. There just isn't much CC interest here. I don't know why.
I do agree that pop is not the way to go for Jackie, at least not with the type of music which she recorded.
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Post by oliness on Oct 27, 2017 4:59:54 GMT -5
Lack of new music is certainly not the reason. She released a whole set of pop songs, with little effect on her popularity (Which shows that this is not the direction to go). The problem lies in poor management and advertising. There is certainly no lack of interest in CC singers. Sarah Brightman and Katherin Jenkins are all doing well. SB is not in the US, and I don't think KJ is either. There just isn't much CC interest here. I don't know why.
I do agree that pop is not the way to go for Jackie, at least not with the type of music which she recorded.
SB is a Londoner and KJ is Welsh - both Brits who are in the UK most of the time. They have a moderate amount of interest but not as much as the pop stars - the classical field is limited in almost every country. I think Jackie's biggest problem is lack of promotion. With concerts not even being put on her website and only announced on fb a couple of weeks before, how does anyone expect them to be well attended? Many people likely plan their attendances at concerts a long time in advance. And the pop songs in Two Hearts seem to me like they should have remained journal entries, the sort of thing you write when you're feeling down but never show to anyone. A decent management would have said that, and found some good original classical music that could attract new interest.
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Post by ursus on Oct 27, 2017 5:56:48 GMT -5
SB is not in the US, and I don't think KJ is either. There just isn't much CC interest here. I don't know why.
I do agree that pop is not the way to go for Jackie, at least not with the type of music which she recorded.
SB is a Londoner and KJ is Welsh - both Brits who are in the UK most of the time. They have a moderate amount of interest but not as much as the pop stars - the classical field is limited in almost every country. I think Jackie's biggest problem is lack of promotion. With concerts not even being put on her website and only announced on fb a couple of weeks before, how does anyone expect them to be well attended? Many people likely plan their attendances at concerts a long time in advance. And the pop songs in Two Hearts seem to me like they should have remained journal entries, the sort of thing you write when you're feeling down but never show to anyone. A decent management would have said that, and found some good original classical music that could attract new interest. It seems pretty obvious to me that Jackie would prefer to be a pop star and have fans primarily in her own age bracket. I can't blame her for that, but she has to come around to seeing where her talent lies, and that talent is an outstanding one. Very few people can become celebrities in any field. See seems to enjoy most aspects of it, so she should to everything to see that she succeeds. This includes things like improved visibility. My gut feeling is that numerous people whom she has been in contact with, many of whom she probably respects, have told her that.
Although I don't think that we ever heard a reason that the song which she composed for Awakening disappeared, apparently without her knowledge, it probably crushed her. Thus these songs on Two Hearts. They are a second disk which I don't think added significantly to the cost, so I don't see a problem. I think I played that disk only once.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 7:06:20 GMT -5
SB is not in the US, and I don't think KJ is either. There just isn't much CC interest here. I don't know why.
I do agree that pop is not the way to go for Jackie, at least not with the type of music which she recorded.
SB is a Londoner and KJ is Welsh - both Brits who are in the UK most of the time. They have a moderate amount of interest but not as much as the pop stars - the classical field is limited in almost every country. I think Jackie's biggest problem is lack of promotion. With concerts not even being put on her website and only announced on fb a couple of weeks before, how does anyone expect them to be well attended? Many people likely plan their attendances at concerts a long time in advance.And the pop songs in Two Hearts seem to me like they should have remained journal entries, the sort of thing you write when you're feeling down but never show to anyone. A decent management would have said that, and found some good original classical music that could attract new interest. I'm not so sure about that. I don't, for local events. People who are traveling and staying overnight to attend do, but how many do that? I get email from the Colorado Symphony, and some months ago saw they were putting on Mozart's Requiem mass, that piece he was composing on his deathbed, in October. I made a mental note, but didn't buy tickets until the week before- didn't know what I might be doing so far in advance. Isn't it likely that's the way most people do, unless they expect it to be sold out? I would think publicity in the 2-week or so period before a concert would be most effective, dollar for dollar. It's kind of a problem, you can't just put an ad in the local paper anymore and expect everyone to see it. Not many people have the paper arriving on their doorstep every day, like it used to be. In most cities, though, there is a local free weekly paper that concentrates on entertainment ads, that people pick up if they want to go out next weekend. Those might work. Targeted readers. Incidentally, the Requiem concert was great- big show, with orchestra, 150+ choir and the four soloist singers. The $110 and $80 seats were about half full, but the $38 seats, where we were, in a balcony where we were looking at the backs of the soloists, but had a good view of the orchestra, choir, and conductor, were almost full. Jackie's concerts there, on the other hand, were pretty full in the expensive, close-in seats, thinning out in the cheaper ones. That's the pattern in Greensburg, PA for Jackie's concert Dec. 1, where it looks 70-75% sold already, not bad. I wouldn't expect the Texas concerts to do all that well, with the trouble down there.
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