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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 19:13:48 GMT -5
Would you not think that the speaker could make his points better if he shaved and wore a tie and jacket? Yes, but he is part of the problem. People seem to think that wearing a 2 day beard with their pants falling off is cool in this county. They used to think it was being a slob. Yeah, didn't jesus shave and wear a tie and a jacket?
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Post by juxtaposer on Mar 13, 2017 20:03:48 GMT -5
Yes, but he is part of the problem. People seem to think that wearing a 2 day beard with their pants falling off is cool in this county. They used to think it was being a slob. Yeah, didn't jesus shave and wear a tie and a jacket? It's quite possible that he did shave. The fashions of the time were Roman, and many Roman men shaved. Remember they occupied Judaea at the time. Their fashions were widely adopted in the provinces they occupied. When Judas identified Jesus to the Roman soldiers who arrested him, he did so by kissing him on the cheek. This suggests that he did not stand out in dress or physical appearance from the common style. There is no mention of him being bearded in the bible. Ben is a bible christian, he might know more.
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Post by bgstar on Mar 13, 2017 20:27:00 GMT -5
Yeah, didn't jesus shave and wear a tie and a jacket? It's quite possible that he did shave. The fashions of the time were Roman, and many Roman men shaved. Remember they occupied Judaea at the time. Their fashions were widely adopted in the provinces they occupied. When Judas identified Jesus to the Roman soldiers who arrested him, he did so by kissing him on the cheek. This suggests that he did not stand out in dress or physical appearance from the common style. There is no mention of him being bearded in the bible. Ben is a bible christian, he might know more. I think you might find the following interesting: www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35120965
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Post by juxtaposer on Mar 13, 2017 20:48:18 GMT -5
It's quite possible that he did shave. The fashions of the time were Roman, and many Roman men shaved. Remember they occupied Judaea at the time. Their fashions were widely adopted in the provinces they occupied. When Judas identified Jesus to the Roman soldiers who arrested him, he did so by kissing him on the cheek. This suggests that he did not stand out in dress or physical appearance from the common style. There is no mention of him being bearded in the bible. Ben is a bible christian, he might know more. I think you might find the following interesting: www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35120965My word that was interesting. I knew about the short hair too - another Roman fashion. Also, Jesus toured the countryside for three years, but he didn't camp out. He stayed in the homes of sympathizers in comfortable quarters, so his habits and appearance would have been clean. I don't think if he'd had the scruffy sadhu look he would have drawn the crowds.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 15:55:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 17:35:48 GMT -5
Some how, this seems eerily familiar to me....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 14:30:16 GMT -5
Yeah, didn't jesus shave and wear a tie and a jacket? It's quite possible that he did shave. The fashions of the time were Roman, and many Roman men shaved. Remember they occupied Judaea at the time. Their fashions were widely adopted in the provinces they occupied. When Judas identified Jesus to the Roman soldiers who arrested him, he did so by kissing him on the cheek. This suggests that he did not stand out in dress or physical appearance from the common style. There is no mention of him being bearded in the bible. Ben is a bible christian, he might know more. Not sure what a 'bible christian' is, 'juxtaposer', so I cannot claim the august title. Just plain 'mystic' will do... I defer to your opinion on the subject of beards and long hair in the time of Jesus. Here are two sources which support it: www.askelm.com/secrets/sec103.htm www.learnthebible.org/did-jesus-have-long-hair.html EDIT: I see that 'bgstar' has supplied you with some information too.
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Post by juxtaposer on Mar 15, 2017 16:52:14 GMT -5
It's quite possible that he did shave. The fashions of the time were Roman, and many Roman men shaved. Remember they occupied Judaea at the time. Their fashions were widely adopted in the provinces they occupied. When Judas identified Jesus to the Roman soldiers who arrested him, he did so by kissing him on the cheek. This suggests that he did not stand out in dress or physical appearance from the common style. There is no mention of him being bearded in the bible. Ben is a bible christian, he might know more. Not sure what a 'bible christian' is, 'juxtaposer', so I cannot claim the august title. Just plain 'mystic' will do... I defer to your opinion on the subject of beards and long hair in the time of Jesus. Here are two sources which support it: www.askelm.com/secrets/sec103.htm www.learnthebible.org/did-jesus-have-long-hair.html EDIT: I see that 'bgstar' has supplied you with some information too. Thanks Ben. That settles it then. Epiphanius was entitled to his opinion. People have always kept symbols. Jesus did not say not to. A bible christian I refer to someone who can quote the bible in any situation. But I suppose a plain mystic can do that too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 19:58:12 GMT -5
Thanks Ben. That settles it then. Epiphanius was entitled to his opinion. People have always kept symbols. Jesus did not say not to. A bible christian I refer to someone who can quote the bible in any situation. But I suppose a plain mystic can do that too. Maybe there is a mystic somewhere who can. I cannot. Most of my 'quotes' are my own. They just happen to agree with sacred literature---written by other mystics, I suppose.
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Post by juxtaposer on Mar 15, 2017 20:06:24 GMT -5
Thanks Ben. That settles it then. Epiphanius was entitled to his opinion. People have always kept symbols. Jesus did not say not to. A bible christian I refer to someone who can quote the bible in any situation. But I suppose a plain mystic can do that too. Maybe there is a mystic somewhere who can. I cannot. Most of my 'quotes' are my own. They just happen to agree with sacred literature---written by other mystics, I suppose. As you interpret them...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 20:15:44 GMT -5
Maybe there is a mystic somewhere who can. I cannot. Most of my 'quotes' are my own. They just happen to agree with sacred literature---written by other mystics, I suppose. As you interpret them... I can only 'interpret' my own personal religious experience and benefit from the good results. If others have the same experience, we are brothers. In that sense, others who have similar experiences are in 'agreement' with me.
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Post by juxtaposer on Mar 15, 2017 20:28:53 GMT -5
I can only 'interpret' my own personal religious experience and benefit from the good results. If others have the same experience, we are brothers. In that sense, others who have similar experiences are in 'agreement' with me. In that sense I would broadly 'agree'.
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Post by juxtaposer on Mar 18, 2017 18:13:10 GMT -5
The truth about popular culture - the decay of western civilisation. WARNING - Some mild adult content Someone please send this guy some Jackie discs. If he doesn't get them soon he could go right off the rails. Actually, I'm not sure what his problem is. He looks fed enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 23:12:28 GMT -5
Popular culture was much more corrupting in the past than it is now. In pre-industrial times it consisted in large measure of various forms of animal cruelty, bear baiting, dog fighting and such, things that have now been forced underground. Carnivals in the early to mid 20th century featured geek and freak shows where people found amusement in the misfortunes of their fellow human beings. This guy takes a shot at "cultural marxists". This seems to have become popular with right-wingers. This usually refers to the Frankfurt School. It's ridiculous to blame vulgar pop culture on the Frankfurt School. To the contrary, Theodor Adorno viewed mass media as a threat to democracy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 23:49:34 GMT -5
Popular culture was much more corrupting in the past than it is now. In pre-industrial times it consisted in large measure of various forms of animal cruelty, bear baiting, dog fighting and such, things that have now been forced underground. Carnivals in the early to mid 20th century featured geek and freak shows where people found amusement in the misfortunes of their fellow human beings. This guy takes a shot at "cultural marxists". This seems to have become popular with right-wingers. This usually refers to the Frankfurt School. It's ridiculous to blame vulgar pop culture on the Frankfurt School. To the contrary, Theodor Adorno viewed mass media as a threat to democracy. The nazis were strict about what they considered 'popular culture'. For example, they called the following symphonic piece by Paul Hindemith 'degenerate art'...
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