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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 14:45:16 GMT -5
I'm happy for Grace. She's a very talented girl, songwriter/singer. Almost as successful now as Jackie was at age 12, she deserves the fame and reward she currently enjoys. Onward an upward.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 15:15:37 GMT -5
I'm happy for Grace. She's a very talented girl, songwriter/singer. Almost as successful now as Jackie was at age 12, she deserves the fame and reward she currently enjoys. Onward an upward. Hopefully Jackie will get back some of that same level of success that Grace is having now. I certainly agree with you about Grace, her career continues to move upward. FYI Grace is now 14.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 16:33:15 GMT -5
I'm happy for Grace. She's a very talented girl, songwriter/singer. Almost as successful now as Jackie was at age 12, she deserves the fame and reward she currently enjoys. Onward an upward. Hopefully Jackie will get back some of that same level of success that Grace is having now. I certainly agree with you about Grace, her career continues to move upward. FYI Grace is now 14. I know Grace is 14. That was my point. FYI, Jackie's net worth is currently twice that of Grace's according to celebritynetworth.com, and she's moving forward. But, then I'm a Jackie fan. Not all that interested in Grace. That was the first and probably the last comment I'll have for her, mostly for your benefit, miss hopeful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 17:14:01 GMT -5
Hopefully Jackie will get back some of that same level of success that Grace is having now. I certainly agree with you about Grace, her career continues to move upward. FYI Grace is now 14. I know Grace is 14. That was my point. FYI, Jackie's net worth is currently twice that of Grace's according to celebritynetworth.com, and she's moving forward. But, then I'm a Jackie fan. Not all that interested in Grace. That was the first and probably the last comment I'll have for her, mostly for your benefit, miss hopeful. "Not all that interested", but you just wanted to chime in for my benefit... sure. I certainly would expect Jackie's net worth to be higher seeing that Jackie has been a pro since 2010 and Grace has only been a pro since 2016. Jackie's net worth is around 4 mill and Grace's is around 2 mill. If Grace keeps this pace up she should easily surpass the 4 mill amount within the next few years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 20:06:05 GMT -5
I know Grace is 14. That was my point. FYI, Jackie's net worth is currently twice that of Grace's according to celebritynetworth.com, and she's moving forward. But, then I'm a Jackie fan. Not all that interested in Grace. That was the first and probably the last comment I'll have for her, mostly for your benefit, miss hopeful. "Not at all interested", but you just wanted to chime in for my benefit... sure. I certainly would expect Jackie's net worth to be higher seeing that Jackie has been a pro since 2010 and Grace has only been a pro since 2016. Jackie's net worth is around 4 mill and Grace's is around 2 mill. If Grace keeps this pace up she should easily surpass the 4 mill amount within the next few years. I wish you'd pay attention to what you read. "Not at all interested" is a different meaning. But, no matter. The more you say the more you reveal yourself. If you showed half the enthusiasm for Jackie that you have for Angelica, Grace and richard's pop tart favorites, I might think of you as a fan. Too late now, I suspect. So far not a single post on this forum of SIGNIFICANT acknowledgement, just a patronizing "hope" for her future.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 20:43:28 GMT -5
I've had enough of this one-upsmanship game with you, cer. It's nonsense, and you're more experienced at it than I am. I concede to your superior talent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 22:09:51 GMT -5
I've had enough of this one-upsmanship game with you, cer. It's nonsense, and you're more experienced at it than I am. I concede to your superior talent. What you continue to prove is that you clearly don't like it when other young artist are brought up in here. It really is ok to do that and still be a Jackie fan. Trust me, no one will take away your Jackie fan button. However, my suggestion to you is that you should stick to being only devoted to Jackie 24/7. By the way, I did misquote you which I have corrected... so I goofed. However, my basic point stands.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 11:28:07 GMT -5
Grace has a very busy touring schedule coming up starting in June. gracevanderwaal.com/tour/This kid is showing NO signs of fading.
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Post by geb on May 3, 2018 23:47:13 GMT -5
And as a lead-in act for Imagine Dragons, she gets continued exposure to tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people while playing at big venues.
Jackie never had this type of exposure when 14 years-old.
Grace also writes her own songs. Good or bad, she records them and gets further promotion. Jackie almost never sings anything but covers of other people's songs.
Where Jackie was not able to fill an under 2,500 theater with many months of promotion in Dayton, Ohio, Grace was routinely selling out similar size venues in a matter of a few days to weeks.
Different types of performers.
Grace was always pitched to the masses, and looks to succeeding.
Jackie was initially pitched to the masses but could not get past several thousand people venues. Once Jackie could not shake the "opera" singer tag and the types of songs Jackie sung were deemed non-mainstream, Jackie's exposure and promotion became less and less. It will be quite hard for Jackie to break through to bigger venues without a song(s) that becomes a true hit. And it will be very difficult to get a true hit when covering other people's material.
At least in the US, Jackie will have a lot of work to get bigger. Foreign may appreciate her more, but that is unclear without some sort of world tour. Putting together a world tour for Jackie would not be a trivial matter to do.
But it is what it is, and Jackie, as an 18 year-old, is now competing against other adults. Time will tell, and we will have to see how her next album turns out.
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Post by curtis114 on May 4, 2018 0:02:46 GMT -5
And as a lead-in act for Imagine Dragons, she gets continued exposure to tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people while playing at big venues. Jackie never had this type of exposure when 14 years-old. Grace also writes her own songs. Good or bad, she records them and gets further promotion. Jackie almost never sings anything but covers of other people's songs. Where Jackie was not able to fill an under 2,500 theater with many months of promotion in Dayton, Ohio, Grace was routinely selling out similar size venues in a matter of a few days to weeks. Different types of performers. Grace was always pitched to the masses. Jackie was never pitched to the masses once she got tagged as a "opera" singer and the types of songs Jackie sung. Good to know, I'm guessing that made you feel good?
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Post by geb on May 4, 2018 0:05:37 GMT -5
And as a lead-in act for Imagine Dragons, she gets continued exposure to tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people while playing at big venues. Jackie never had this type of exposure when 14 years-old. Grace also writes her own songs. Good or bad, she records them and gets further promotion. Jackie almost never sings anything but covers of other people's songs. Where Jackie was not able to fill an under 2,500 theater with many months of promotion in Dayton, Ohio, Grace was routinely selling out similar size venues in a matter of a few days to weeks. Different types of performers. Grace was always pitched to the masses. Jackie was never pitched to the masses once she got tagged as a "opera" singer and the types of songs Jackie sung. Good to know, I'm guessing that made you feel good? No
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 0:26:28 GMT -5
The Other Artists subject has become a regular promotional spot for the up-and-coming, which I don't think was the original intention. It seems contradictory to the purpose of a fan site to have multiple pages dedicated to a singer other than Jackie. Grace is not the only one being promoted repeatedly. I realize it's acceptable, but I can express my annoyance as well as others can express their justification. Call it my 2 cents worth.
I have nothing against the artists themselves.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 7:30:00 GMT -5
The Other Artists subject has become a regular promotional spot for the up-and-coming, which I don't think was the original intention. It seems contradictory to the purpose of a fan site to have multiple pages dedicated to a singer other than Jackie. Grace is not the only one being promoted repeatedly. I realize it's acceptable, but I can express my annoyance as well as others can express their justification. Call it my 2 cents worth. I have nothing against the artists themselves. These are exactly the sort of posts that the "Other Artists" threads were intended for. What did you expect, numerous selfie pictures of these other artists instead!?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 9:17:26 GMT -5
The Other Artists subject has become a regular promotional spot for the up-and-coming, which I don't think was the original intention. It seems contradictory to the purpose of a fan site to have multiple pages dedicated to a singer other than Jackie. Grace is not the only one being promoted repeatedly. I realize it's acceptable, but I can express my annoyance as well as others can express their justification. Call it my 2 cents worth. I have nothing against the artists themselves. These are exactly the sort of posts that the "Other Artists" threads were intended for. What did you expect, numerous selfie pictures of these other artists instead!? There are 29 artists posted on the Other Artists subject, a wide variety from Paul Simon to Patricia Janechova with 50 to 900 views or so, which is what I would expect as casual interest aside from the purpose of this forum, that being to promote and support Jackie. Of all those artists, Grace has 11 pages and 8,552 views, Angelica has 10 pages and 5,787 views, and Darci has 5 pages and 2,302 views. Those numbers show where the interest has become focused and, in my opinion, in contradiction to the purpose of the subject, and more importantly the purpose of the forum. The Grace, Angelica and Darci threads have come to dominate the subject in an obvious endeavor to promote them. Your primary interest seems to be in justifying the privilege to post for your favorites under this subject while dropping an occasional comment for Jackie, but nothing of significance in promoting her.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2018 9:30:58 GMT -5
The Other Artists subject has become a regular promotional spot for the up-and-coming, which I don't think was the original intention. It seems contradictory to the purpose of a fan site to have multiple pages dedicated to a singer other than Jackie. Grace is not the only one being promoted repeatedly. I realize it's acceptable, but I can express my annoyance as well as others can express their justification. Call it my 2 cents worth. I have nothing against the artists themselves. The problem isn't the artist but the comparisons of them to Jackie. Some would say it is an apples to oranges thing. I say it is a grape thing. There are thousands of grape varieties. Some are made into Welch's juice, some are eaten as is or as raisins and the select few are made into the finest of wines. Do not compare those with a woo woo grape juice talent with our fine wine.
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