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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 7:49:02 GMT -5
It is not numbered, but the sentence after your rule # 4 states -
If controversial issue arise a poll will be created and members will decide.
After that it states we don't want conflict between members.
Whereas, the first statement is "A peaceful harmonious place."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 8:54:47 GMT -5
You do not seem to recognize what I see as an insidious undermining of Jackie's reputation. You're examples are trivial by comparison. I really don't understand your big problem with bg. He has been on Jackie's fansites and forums since Jackie has had them and he hasn't sunk her ship yet. No, but he's sunk some forums. edit add: and this one looks a little down by the bow.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 9:45:12 GMT -5
Jackie is an incredible young lady. As a child, she enchanted us with her charm and captivated us with her voice. She asked us to dream with her, and we followed her through her make believe. Wondering why, held up high in this state of grace, she kept us mesmerized while secretly haunted by the fear it wouldn't last. Warning us that she's breaking out, she boldly left the stage of impossible expectations before it all falls down. In bitter sweet thanks and please, she proclaimed.. I am me. Wise beyond her years and confident, she became the master of her fate with one gesture of courage and self-determination that many may never understand or appreciate. The intoxicated have been awakened in bewilderment that the "angel child" has shown she is a natural young woman with a new vision and perhaps a new dream. She is revealing herself all the more, not to shock or surprise, but in characteristic honesty, inviting us to follow her exploration through the real world. She is no different than her peers, behaving in ways perhaps some of us have forgotten and some remember all too well. She has always captured our imagination and will continue to keep us guessing, the way of an artistic mind. Each of us will determine what images we will embrace or reject as she matures and finds new ways of expression. Regardless now of anyone's expectations, Jackie will be herself. That is her gift "that keeps on giving" whether it is accepted or not. IMO her career after PTAD has been directed by Producers , parents and management , she has always had the dream of rock star and most likely still does , she never should have been a angel child by silly people , the real Jackie will not appear till a adult , nothing will surprise This is the post that began the interaction with beachguy and me. There was no reason for him to disagree with it, yet he couldn't leave it alone, having to make remarks that in my opinion were misleading and suggestive. Who knows what the public would assume? Edit add: Read the subsequent posts to determine the character of the exchange.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 9:59:36 GMT -5
Beachguy, Trying to communicate with you seldom gets beyond nonsense. It's apparent to me though that you are determined to impose your will in an attempt to discredit Jackie with innuendo and conjecture disguised as concern from a "true fan". Your prophetic wisdom does nothing to enhance Jackie's reputation, promote her interests, value her artistic dedication or impress me that you have her success at heart. In fact it seems more your intention to prove her a failure. Why don't you follow some other singer you admire and appreciate. Remember you said about Jackie, "she lost my respect"? That speaks to you more than to her. gee , you scare me , I would love to speak to you up close , I am not here to enhance her , she has millions in the bank , ok I will not post nice things but reply to you and few more haters , there is free speech here , artistic dedication ? , ha ha you kill me . btw she has lost respect from millions in case you don't know it but your eyes are blinded and mind closed . This post by me is based on my observation of beachguy and his replies to me here over a period of time prior to and including the interaction in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 10:19:34 GMT -5
gee , you scare me , I would love to speak to you up close , I am not here to enhance her , she has millions in the bank , ok I will not post nice things but reply to you and few more haters , there is free speech here , artistic dedication ? , ha ha you kill me . btw she has lost respect from millions in case you don't know it but your eyes are blinded and mind closed . This post by me is based on my observation of beachguy and his replies to me here over a period of time prior to and including the interaction in this thread. I know you are more forgiving than most here, including me, but please do not let your forgiving nature prevent you from voting for what is best for our forum.
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 21, 2017 13:02:38 GMT -5
I really don't understand your big problem with bg. He has been on Jackie's fansites and forums since Jackie has had them and he hasn't sunk her ship yet. No, but he's sunk some forums. edit add: and this one looks a little down by the bow. Fake news again , I never sank a forum , send me PM on ones I have
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 21, 2017 13:03:56 GMT -5
Gordie, I don't understand your post. I was speaking of no particular "poster in question." I thought my post was clear. I was saying you can't attack Jackie, or anyone, personally. When I said I didn't like Jackie's blue hair I said nothing critical of Jackie. I was talking about her hair. If I had said it makes her look ugly, or like a tramp, or it shows she is a stupid conformist that would have been over the line. Do you understand now? You might be banned
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 21, 2017 13:08:10 GMT -5
Our position is simple...If you don't break forum rules you are welcome here. We Admins don't expect every member to like every other member. What we do expect is that all members will be treated with respect and kindness. We more than expect this, we demand this. beachguy makes a habit of threating those he disagrees with, as in this comment directed at CLeonard,... beachguy, "gee , you scare me , I would love to speak to you up close". And beachguy has been even more blunt in many threats to others. I do not believe that the rules allow that, but Admin ignores ALL his attacks on fans here. I don't attack anyone , I can want to meet a member to talk things out ,
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 21, 2017 13:12:30 GMT -5
IMO her career after PTAD has been directed by Producers , parents and management , she has always had the dream of rock star and most likely still does , she never should have been a angel child by silly people , the real Jackie will not appear till a adult , nothing will surprise This is the post that began the interaction with beachguy and me. There was no reason for him to disagree with it, yet he couldn't leave it alone, having to make remarks that in my opinion were misleading and suggestive. Who knows what the public would assume? Edit add: Read the subsequent posts to determine the character of the exchange. Let adults read themselves , they are not babies , you want to ban freedom of speech ? , where are you from ? , this is America and members have the right to read or not to read . to break rules or not to break rules not , GANG rules
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 21, 2017 13:19:33 GMT -5
I am a fan of Jackie M Evancho and have the most posts of anyone on forums about or of her , I was the last standing on JEFC , I gets 120 views a day on my thread in CC-UK , if I am banned unfairly I always come back over and over again not so friendly , there must be people with courage to protect freedom of speech or all is lost , long live the USA
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Jul 21, 2017 13:40:06 GMT -5
I am a fan of Jackie M Evancho and have the most posts of anyone on forums about or of her , I was the last standing on JEFC , I gets 120 views a day on my thread in CC-UK , if I am banned unfairly I always come back over and over again not so friendly , there must be people with courage to protect freedom of speech or all is lost , long live the USA That's probably true, but most of them are for nothing ...
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 21, 2017 14:19:16 GMT -5
I am a fan of Jackie M Evancho and have the most posts of anyone on forums about or of her , I was the last standing on JEFC , I gets 120 views a day on my thread in CC-UK , if I am banned unfairly I always come back over and over again not so friendly , there must be people with courage to protect freedom of speech or all is lost , long live the USA That's probably true, but most of them are for nothing ... good one dude , see me over CC-UK where we have a Admin with some balls
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 15:00:10 GMT -5
I am a fan of Jackie M Evancho and have the most posts of anyone on forums about or of her , I was the last standing on JEFC , I gets 120 views a day on my thread in CC-UK , if I am banned unfairly I always come back over and over again not so friendly , there must be people with courage to protect freedom of speech or all is lost , long live the USA So you protect freedom of speech by theatening anyone who disagrees with you. And you become more unfriendly everytime you are justly removed for breaking the rules. You will only be satisfied here when you are the last one standing as with JEFC. Must be why you are not over at Amazon, too many other relentless trolls for you to compete with.
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 10, 2017 9:36:18 GMT -5
This post by me is based on my observation of beachguy and his replies to me here over a period of time prior to and including the interaction in this thread. I know you are more forgiving than most here, including me, but please do not let your forgiving nature prevent you from voting for what is best for our forum. How did that go ?? , the forum is getting record numbers now .
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 10, 2017 9:38:04 GMT -5
I am a fan of Jackie M Evancho and have the most posts of anyone on forums about or of her , I was the last standing on JEFC , I gets 120 views a day on my thread in CC-UK , if I am banned unfairly I always come back over and over again not so friendly , there must be people with courage to protect freedom of speech or all is lost , long live the USA So you protect freedom of speech by theatening anyone who disagrees with you. And you become more unfriendly everytime you are justly removed for breaking the rules. You will only be satisfied here when you are the last one standing as with JEFC. Must be why you are not over at Amazon, too many other relentless trolls for you to compete with. FAKE NEWS !!! i broke no rules btw you are one of the haters on list sent to my Chief in tribe to give to the Witch Doctor for a spell on you . be careful crossing the street
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