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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 8:28:15 GMT -5
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Post by rickolsen on May 19, 2017 8:36:19 GMT -5
As most of you know I have suffered from acute chronic clinical depression my whole life. It is caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain. I just want to say that people with depression, especially severe depression, can't just snap out of it. It takes medication, sometimes, as in my case, lots of it. If you have a loved one with this problem get them help because they can't do it on their own.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 9:18:16 GMT -5
Some good news. Colorado's governor recently signed a mental health reform bill, including crisis centers to prevent people in crisis from being routinely put in jails. Passed with bipartisan support, after gun access provisions were removed from it. New programs incurring major expenditures have had a hard time in Colorado recently, due to a constitutional amendment requiring public vote on any new taxes. This was funded by new revenues from legalized marijuana taxes. www.cpr.org/news/story/recently-completed-legislative-session-marks-big-gains-in-mental-health-care
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 10:02:26 GMT -5
As most of you know I have suffered from acute chronic clinical depression my whole life. It is caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain. I just want to say that people with depression, especially severe depression, can't just snap out of it. It takes medication, sometimes, as in my case, lots of it. If you have a loved one with this problem get them help because they can't do it on their own. You probably know more about it than most of us do. It is true, right, that brain chemical imbalance, in addition to congenital, can be brought about, or exacerbated by stress?
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Post by rickolsen on May 19, 2017 13:04:36 GMT -5
You probably know more about it than most of us do. It is true, right, that brain chemical imbalance, in addition to congenital, can be brought about, or exacerbated by stress? Schrodinger, stress can exacerbate the depression, but it can't cause the chemical imbalance.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 20:17:27 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong Rick but stress could cause one to skip taking medication that is required to maintain chemical balance. I know a person that takes medication daily for severe depression and in his case, prolonged usage affected his liver and it was necessary to switch to another medication. However, that medication is proven to be less effective but it is something he must live with or risk losing his liver by going back to the better/stronger medication.
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Post by rickolsen on May 19, 2017 22:54:46 GMT -5
However, that medication is proven to be less effective but it is something he must live with or risk losing his liver by going back to the better/stronger medication. Gordie, there are many anti-depressants. If your friend is having problems with his current medication he can try others or a group of others. My doctor and I tried many until we found the group of three anti-depressants I take now. Oh I still have depression, but it is much less severe and I don't spend every waking minute wanting to die like I used to. My advice to anyone with depression is find yourself a good doctor you can work with and stay with him or her. I have a very good doctor and have been with him for 13 years.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 10:19:52 GMT -5
You probably know more about it than most of us do. It is true, right, that brain chemical imbalance, in addition to congenital, can be brought about, or exacerbated by stress? Schrodinger, stress can exacerbate the depression, but it can't cause the chemical imbalance. Pretty much all of what I find via Google seems to disagree. Depression IS a chemical imbalance, which makes sense as everything the brain does is basically chemistry. Everything says the imbalance can have diverse causes, including stress; it is not necessarily solely congenital. (I'm not talking about just feeling down, rather, clinical depression) Which is not to say there are not degrees of severity, or that what someone with a congenital condition experiences is not different or even more severely disabling; certainly more obviously necessary to treat chemically.
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Post by rickolsen on May 21, 2017 5:25:16 GMT -5
Frisco, you are a doctor so I'll ask you, "Does stress cause clinical depression, or just a "depression-like" state as it does in test rats? My doctor told me that my clinical depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain. He said stress can make it worse, but he didn't say it is a cause.
It seems to me if stress were a cause of depression everybody in the world would be depressed all the time.
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Post by jrchico on May 21, 2017 6:15:52 GMT -5
Frisco, you are a doctor so I'll ask you, "Does stress cause clinical depression, or just a "depression-like" state as it does in test rats? My doctor told me that my clinical depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain. He said stress can make it worse, but he didn't say it is a cause.
It seems to me if stress were a cause of depression everybody in the world would be depressed all the time. You have that last part right. On the brink of war with North Korea and the problems with Russia, who would not be stressed.
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Post by waldschratt on May 21, 2017 6:58:01 GMT -5
The psychical health is like a pair of scales. If you have a genetical strong brain (resilience) you can treat a lot of burdens. The scales get out of balance if you get more problems or you loose force of the brain. So the treatment has two points: Saving for problems (psychical hygiene) and forcing the brain (by medics or metal training, may be religion too). So it`s to understand why antidepressiv medics don`t work alone. I, as a practicer, use all types of medics and I find that other medics (antibiotics, antihypertensives) seem to work better. And finding the rights often is a long way. I think a little the "chemical imbalance" is a way of the industry to sell more medics but it`s not completely wrong. But you have not to forget the other kinds of treatment. To strength the resilience are hobbies a good way, also to hear music and there Jackie`s voice is a good part. But there are more reasons for depressions, the thing is not easy.
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Post by chris on May 23, 2017 15:33:39 GMT -5
I have suffered a chemical imbalance of bipolar depressive disorder ever since I was a teenager. After 15 years of trial and error a regimen of combination medications now has me stabilized with both chemical imbalances. Life is much better now. If you are suffering from either affliction do seek out professional help.
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Post by juxtaposer on May 23, 2017 17:58:02 GMT -5
In my view too much is made of stress as a cause of illness. Even if it may be a factor, people with chronic illnesses are under constant stress stemming from the illness. If there are other stress factors involved, finding ways to counter them will help the sufferer deal better with the illness but won't cure them of it.
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Post by Beachguy on May 25, 2017 7:42:54 GMT -5
Frisco, you are a doctor so I'll ask you, "Does stress cause clinical depression, or just a "depression-like" state as it does in test rats? My doctor told me that my clinical depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain. He said stress can make it worse, but he didn't say it is a cause.
It seems to me if stress were a cause of depression everybody in the world would be depressed all the time. Your doctor is correct , it is a chemical imbalance , I know this to be true , one missing or not enough of a chemical can cause the unbalance , ps we are made up of chemicals
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Post by Beachguy on May 25, 2017 7:46:57 GMT -5
I have suffered a chemical imbalance of bipolar depressive disorder ever since I was a teenager. After 15 years of trial and error a regimen of combination medications now has me stabilized with both chemical imbalances. Life is much better now. If you are suffering from either affliction do seek out professional help. Good for you to stay with it , I completely understand of your long journey , life can change from night to day if receiving correct chemical needed , Best To You Chris
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