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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 2:13:53 GMT -5
Choice of 5 Songs
It's impossible to state that any one song from each of Jackie's albums is a favorite of mine. They are so diversified, each distinctly unique in character, offering a different challenge with respect to story and meaning, expression and emotion, musical difficulty, language: and of course, each given to Jackie's personal interpretation. In the course of having listened often to the four major albums on continuous loop from DWM to Two Hearts 2, it's my opinion that one song on each album best exemplifies what I would most likely expect to hear from a young artist of an age appropriate to the story line, the emotion, and also demonstrates Jackie's extraordinary musical prowess and the exquisite beauty of her voice. These are not chosen above other songs, except that they best represent what I think most people would identify with, as opposed to songs such as Nella Fantasia, Lovers, Mi Mancherai, Se, Dormi Jesu, Ave Maria, Caruso and other personal favorites. Jackie expresses perfectly the character of each of these five songs in a way that moves me as incredibly honest and genuine with a heart felt sense of identity with the song. In my estimation each of them has warranted radio play and recognition for Jackie's incomparable talent. Given the challenge to choose only one song from each album including the pop disc, these are my selections.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2017 13:30:24 GMT -5
Excerpts from Creator Magazine, written by Tim Carson
The article is intended to be instructive, so I've extracted only the points relative to comparing a vocal artist with a singer.
VOCAL ARTISTRY
"A vocal artist is different from a singer. Singers reproduce notes and words. Vocal Artists are able to connect heart to voice and find the ability to accurately convey their heart's message through their songs.
Singers approach their stage presence with what they think they should be doing--externally motivated. Vocal Artists are able to physically express their songs in a way that is natural, engaging and authentic--internally motivated. Singers are left to do the best they can within the limitations their voice has placed upon them. Vocal Artists are in control of their voice, able to maneuver this instrument with freedom, strength, expression and style."
FREEDOM
"Every singer I've ever met is frustrated to one degree or another, with a sense that their voice is dictating to them what they can and can't do. They are not in control of their voice. They experience these limitations with range, tone quality, stylistic flexibility...and the list goes on."
EXPRESSION
"Too often, communication and stage presence can end up being about what we think we should be doing with our hands, our body movements, our arms and our facial expressions. We try to bring 'energy' to our performance, attempting to look engaged in order to draw people into the experience. But all of these motivations are externally focused, and what ends up being communicated is an artificial, disconnected performance."
We want our audience to feel something real.." (May I add, SEE something real)
STYLE
"Most singers do not think of vocal style as something they have any control over whatsoever. If they tend to sing with a traditional or classical sound, then they resign themselves to believing that is the 'box' they need to stay in. When we lack stylistic control and versatility, our own performance is limited in expression."
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Post by bounderdriver on Sept 19, 2017 15:50:05 GMT -5
Excerpts from Creator Magazine, written by Tim Carson
.... EXPRESSION "Too often, communication and stage presence can end up being about what we think we should be doing with our hands, our body movements, our arms and our facial expressions. We try to bring 'energy' to our performance, attempting to look engaged in order to draw people into the experience. But all of these motivations are externally focused, and what ends up being communicated is an artificial, disconnected performance." _______________________________ This makes me think of 70's rock bands, where the hard rock guys were jumping around, doing contortions and giving themselves 'shaken-baby syndrome'. Contrast that with a group like Boston, a bunch of MIT engineers that produced the best engineered sound they could while just basically standing there. It was not 'look at me', but instead 'listen to this!' [Remind you of anyone we know?]
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 20:02:31 GMT -5
This is Jacquelin Marie Evancho and her artistry Long Beach Concert Dec. 7 2013 Breathtakingly exquisite performance with indescribable beauty and charm. Jackie is still younger here (13) than when Chloe Agnew released her version in 2004 (14 or 15?). I always felt that Jackie's version from HC 2011 was Superior to Chloe's. Chloe sings smoothly in a bright monochromatic tone without vibrato. Jackie's 2001 version, while not as smooth as Chloe's, just shimmers and comes alive. Chloe also had the advantage of a more interesting accompaniment which elevated her otherwise somewhat bland delivery. If you listen carefully to the 2011 recording, you can hear Jackie change her y's to eeees at the end of those notes which had them. Fly, by, sky, etc. She obviously did this so she could round out the tone giving it more of a bell tone. Why didn't she do that in the above performance? Is it because it's a cellphone recording and it's hard to hear them? This version is more polished than her 2011 HC version and I would still rank it above Chloe's 2004 album which I downloaded specifically because of that song. But in an effort to make a smoother delivery she lost some of that shimmer and bell tone quality. Still beautiful, but I rank it below her HC version.
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Post by Beachguy on Nov 20, 2017 11:09:41 GMT -5
This is Jacquelin Marie Evancho and her artistry Long Beach Concert Dec. 7 2013 Breathtakingly exquisite performance with indescribable beauty and charm. Jackie is still younger here (13) than when Chloe Agnew released her version in 2004 (14 or 15?). I always felt that Jackie's version from HC 2011 was Superior to Chloe's. Chloe sings smoothly in a bright monochromatic tone without vibrato. Jackie's 2001 version, while not as smooth as Chloe's, just shimmers and comes alive. Chloe also had the advantage of a more interesting accompaniment which elevated her otherwise somewhat bland delivery. If you listen carefully to the 2011 recording, you can hear Jackie change her y's to eeees at the end of those notes which had them. Fly, by, sky, etc. She obviously did this so she could round out the tone giving it more of a bell tone. Why didn't she do that in the above performance? Is it because it's a cellphone recording and it's hard to hear them? This version is more polished than her 2011 HC version and I would still rank it above Chloe's 2004 album which I downloaded specifically because of that song. But in an effort to make a smoother delivery she lost some of that shimmer and bell tone quality. Still beautiful, but I rank it below her HC version. In between at about 12 years old i thought her tone was most outstandingly the best yet . Her " Lovers " is delightful .
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Post by trebor on Jan 21, 2018 7:36:18 GMT -5
I have been meaning to post some thoughts about Jackie and the treatment she has received from media, ho-hum fans and why I think she has gotten some very bad deals. She was everyones darling at 10 years old on AGT. She launched into a career that set the bar too high for most singers to reach. She is a self-professed pefectionist and has always delivered outstanding performances. Having David Foster produce "Dream With Me" should have gotten much more acclaim and some awards. Boo on the industry for not recognizing the GREATNESS in Jackie as an eleven year old child that more than held her own with Sarah Brightman, Susan Boyle and yes, even Barbra Streisand. The album Sounds From The Silver Screen never got raves as it deserved. When you look at a twelve year old girl on stage without an MC, and she performed like a seasoned professional. Her resume is one that almost seems like a fairy tale but since CC is not the perferred genre of her peer group, (if there is any peer of hers) along with very poor social media publicity, her career is not anywhere near where I, (IMHO) think it should be. She has been compared with Jenny Lind, Celine Dion, Judith Durham but she really is in a class or niche of her own creation. Her covers of other artists are not copies...she adds her own unique interpetation to every song she performs. I started to say sing, but she is much more than a singer...she is a consumate performer on stage and she literally becomes a different person when she performs. She owns the stage and reaches every person...The Jackie Effect.
I do feel that she has been treated poorly quite a few times...When she was invited to sing for the Pope in Philly, someone really screwed up and had her sing on an empty stage when the Pope was elsewhere and the audience was milling around. Even though I am sure she was disappointed, she performed very well. Shame on the organizers!!
She took a lot of heat for singing the National Anthem at Trump's inaguration, but she has the best rendition and voice for that difficult piece. Although she was ill at the time, she was a trouper and performed well. Once again, very shabby treatment by the organizers. She was seated in the cold two hours before her performance, and then the networks did thier best to sabotage the sound system. She continues to explain it was not for Trump, but rather for HER country!
I own all of her CD's DVD's except PTAD and listen to her daily. In my 78 years she is my favorite go-to singer. Hopefully I will see her live if she ever gets to Knoxville.
My favorite is her very first concert in Houston. Lots of moxie to start with 'LOVERS'!!!~ Thanks Papasmurfdad
feel free to critique my rant.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Jan 21, 2018 9:21:07 GMT -5
" ... I own all of her CD's DVD's except PTAD and listen to her daily ..."
Me too. I also have all except PTAD and listen daily ...
" ... In my 78 years she is my favorite go-to singer ..."
Me too. I'm 68 years old ...
" ... Hopefully I will see her live if she ever gets to Knoxville ..."
Me too. If she ever come to Europe (again) ...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 9:24:27 GMT -5
Trebor, part of Jackie's problem is that she has her parents pretty much running her career. IMHO that is a big problem. She needs professionals running her career. I truly believe there have been some missed opportunities because of it. Quite frankly, JE should also never have been responsible for supporting her entire family. The burden of responsibility that has been placed on her must be unreal.
"I do feel that she has been treated poorly quite a few times...When she was invited to sing for the Pope in Philly, someone really screwed up and had her sing on an empty stage when the Pope was elsewhere and the audience was milling around. Even though I am sure she was disappointed, she performed very well. Shame on the organizers!! "
The above example is where competent managers would never have allowed something like that to occur in the first place. The problem with team Evancho and some of her fans is that they always seem to blame others when it is at times TE's own fault.
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Post by trebor on Jan 21, 2018 9:56:23 GMT -5
Trebor, part of Jackie's problem is that she has her parents pretty much running her career. IMHO that is a big problem. She needs professionals running her career. I truly believe there have been some missed opportunities because of it. Quite frankly, JE should also never have been responsible for supporting her entire family. "I do feel that she has been treated poorly quite a few times...When she was invited to sing for the Pope in Philly, someone really screwed up and had her sing on an empty stage when the Pope was elsewhere and the audience was milling around. Even though I am sure she was disappointed, she performed very well. Shame on the organizers!! " The above example is where competent managers would never have allowed something like that to occur in the first place. The problem with team Evancho and some of her fans is that they always seem to blame others when it is at times TE's own fault. I agree in part, in that a 10-17 y/o should NOT be sole support for entire family of six. I am looking forward to April 9th, when Jackie can do as she wants instead of always being directed() as to what, when, how, where, etc. I for one think she has a wonderful life ahead of her. She has a resume that any star would envy, and I hope that she will start a World Wide Tour. She doesn't even need a new album. Her repetoire is large enough to enchant crowds all over the far east and europe. At 12 she was a great ambassador to Russia, and they love her there almost as much as all us old die-hard fans. Juliet and Rachel have had the name recognition from Jackie but should let go of her coat-tails and make it or break it on their own. The parents could (and should) go to work and support themselves.
I still hope and believe we have just scratched the surface with Jackie's greatness. She is the voice of the century!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 10:32:46 GMT -5
Trebor:"I for one think she has a wonderful life ahead of her. She has a resume that any star would envy, and I hope that she will start a World Wide Tour. She doesn't even need a new album. Her repetoire is large enough to enchant crowds all over the far east and Europe."
This is where all of those missed opportunities are coming back to haunt her. She has a lot of work to do to even justify a tour in Europe. Jackie needs to start with the talk show circuit first so she can truly reintroduce herself to the European market.
Trebor: "Juliet and Rachel have had the name recognition from Jackie but should let go of her coat-tails and make it or break it on their own. The parents could (and should) go to work and support themselves.
I still hope and believe we have just scratched the surface with Jackie's greatness. She is the voice of the century!"
In regards to her family, I agree with you 100%. I don't think Jackie is "the voice of the century," but she is obviously very talented. :-)
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Jan 21, 2018 11:29:14 GMT -5
" ... I do feel that she has been treated poorly quite a few times...When she was invited to sing for the Pope in Philly, someone really screwed up and had her sing on an empty stage when the Pope was elsewhere and the audience was milling around. Even though I am sure she was disappointed, she performed very well. Shame on the organizers!! ..."
As I remember, there where rumors, that Jackie should have sang a duet with Andrea Bocelli in front of the Pope, but this was canceled due to late schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 14:32:17 GMT -5
Since good management is so important to an entertainer's degree of success, many of you are hoping that Jackie will break away from her current management when she turns 18 years of age. But is that likely to happen? It may be doubtful for at least two reasons: Jackie is strongly attached to her family and she may be satisfied with the way her career is going even if some of her fans are not. Jackie may be marching to a different drummer no matter how long her career lasts or how frustrated some of her fans get.
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Post by ursus on Jan 21, 2018 19:18:15 GMT -5
Since good management is so important to an entertainer's degree of success, many of you are hoping that Jackie will break away from her current management when she turns 18 years of age. But is that likely to happen? It may be doubtful for at least two reasons: Jackie is strongly attached to her family and she may be satisfied with the way her career is going even if some of her fans are not. Jackie may be marching to a different drummer no matter how long her career lasts or how frustrated some of her fans get. I agree. All indications are that Jackie is very attached to her family and won't dump them. It wouldn't surprise me if Juliet and/or Rachel eventually take part in the management.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 22:53:03 GMT -5
Since good management is so important to an entertainer's degree of success, many of you are hoping that Jackie will break away from her current management when she turns 18 years of age. But is that likely to happen? It may be doubtful for at least two reasons: Jackie is strongly attached to her family and she may be satisfied with the way her career is going even if some of her fans are not. Jackie may be marching to a different drummer no matter how long her career lasts or how frustrated some of her fans get. I agree. All indications are that Jackie is very attached to her family and won't dump them. It wouldn't surprise me if Juliet and/or Rachel eventually take part in the management. "It wouldn't surprise me if Juliet and/or Rachel eventually take part in the management." If that truly occurs, God help Jackie!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 22:16:15 GMT -5
Back on topic.
I posted this reaction here because Jackie's performance together with Kent's comments emphasizes her vocal attributes. The performance speaks for itself in whatever way one might be intrigued, fascinated, even inspired or simply moved. His assessment reflects the essence of Jackie's artistry which is "control"...in various aspects...pitch, tone, vibrato, ease of range, dynamics, and beyond that, her expressiveness and interpretation. All in a foreign language at age 11 defines her uniqueness.
The audio quality is not good because it's a re-posted video, or whatever it's called.
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