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Post by yellowstone2014 on Jun 14, 2020 15:05:31 GMT -5
Thank you, Rick. I like the new photo and the color too!
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2020 21:10:23 GMT -5
Thank you, Rick. I like the new photo and the color too! Yellowstone,you're welcome. You should thank rlhamil for the photo. He gave it to me. Thanks, Richard.
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Post by rlhamil on Jun 16, 2020 0:45:26 GMT -5
Thanks for using it. I thought it was recent and topical enough, and it's certainly colorful and cheerful; and right about now, I think we could all use more cheer. :-)
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Post by lawrence on Nov 23, 2022 16:12:33 GMT -5
FORUM RULES "Our Mission Statement Our mission in creating this Jackie fan forum is to provide Jackie's fans a peaceful harmonious place where they can come and talk about Jackie. To that end we have created these few rules. 1) Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, with respect and kindness. (There will be no name calling of Jackie, her parents, her siblings, her people, or other members allowed.) (There will be no personal insults of Jackie, her parents, her siblings, her people, or other members allowed.) (Foul, vulgar, profane, graphic language will not be allowed here.) (Respectful considerate criticism is allowed.)" _________________________________________________________________________ There was a time not long ago when these rules were enforced with appropriate disciplinary action. Admin had an assistant assigned to the task of monitoring posts and making himself available through private message to offer recourse for disrespectful behavior. Today, Admin seems disinterested in activity on this forum for whatever reason, and there is no assistant admin charged with monitoring, and no recourse for violating the rules. So, I will address this to my antagonist from Germany, ZWERGNASE, suggesting that you read these rules and attempt to engage in discourse in a civil, respectful manner. There is no call for this kind of remark. LEARN SOME MANNERS! Boy, either you're mentally ill or a stupid idiot,
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Post by Willyiam on Nov 23, 2022 17:02:55 GMT -5
FORUM RULES "Our Mission Statement Our mission in creating this Jackie fan forum is to provide Jackie's fans a peaceful harmonious place where they can come and talk about Jackie. To that end we have created these few rules. 1) Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, with respect and kindness. (There will be no name calling of Jackie, her parents, her siblings, her people, or other members allowed.) (There will be no personal insults of Jackie, her parents, her siblings, her people, or other members allowed.) (Foul, vulgar, profane, graphic language will not be allowed here.) (Respectful considerate criticism is allowed.)" _________________________________________________________________________ There was a time not long ago when these rules were enforced with appropriate disciplinary action. Admin had an assistant assigned to the task of monitoring posts and making himself available through private message to offer recourse for disrespectful behavior. Today, Admin seems disinterested in activity on this forum for whatever reason, and there is no assistant admin charged with monitoring, and no recourse for violating the rules. So, I will address this to my antagonist from Germany, ZWERGNASE, suggesting that you read these rules and attempt to engage in discourse in a civil, respectful manner. There is no call for this kind of remark. LEARN SOME MANNERS! Boy, either you're mentally ill or a stupid idiot, I agree totally!! It is becoming commonplace on this forum to endure post after post of 2 members thrashing each other senseless instead of posting about Jackie, which is why this forum was created! It might behoove you to PM admin with this post!! It also might behoove you to disregard your antagonist!!
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Post by lawrence on Nov 23, 2022 17:22:05 GMT -5
I agree totally!! It is becoming commonplace on this forum to endure post after post of 2 members thrashing each other senseless instead of posting about Jackie, which is why this forum was created! It might behoove you to PM admin with this post!! It also might behoove you to disregard your antagonist!! Thank you, Willyiam, for your suggestions. Admin hasn't been heard from since Sept. 28th when he agreed to consider your suggestion to change the header photo....no response from him since, as you know. Doubt that he'll see a PM in the near future. We're on our own here.
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Post by Willyiam on Nov 23, 2022 17:34:55 GMT -5
I agree totally!! It is becoming commonplace on this forum to endure post after post of 2 members thrashing each other senseless instead of posting about Jackie, which is why this forum was created! It might behoove you to PM admin with this post!! It also might behoove you to disregard your antagonist!! Thank you, Willyiam, for your suggestions. Admin hasn't been heard from since Sept. 28th when he agreed to consider your suggestion to change the header photo....no response from him since, as you know. Doubt that he'll see a PM in the near future. We're on our own here. His last Shoutbox post was on November 6, 2022! He might respond to a PM if he sees this post!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2022 0:45:14 GMT -5
If you see since when there is unrest here then you can also see the reason. A person who constantly defames other fans as non-JackieFans. A person who gets false statements about Jackie for years. A person who only joined here to harm me. A person who wrote badly about this forum before. Everything and more, that's Lawrence.
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Post by lawrence on Jun 10, 2023 10:51:03 GMT -5
Violation of Forum Rules: It's apparent that deleting a member's account for having repeatedly insulted other members does not deter the persistence of one who simply registers under another name to continue posting offensive remarks....i.e. hamilton, alias zwergnase. Since an admin has not been appointed to monitor comments, I will create a thread titled "Violations of Forum Rules". I propose that members quote personal insults and/or disrespectful remarks found in further conversation and post them there. That will provide a resource for Admin to consider if/when necessary. Please offer your thoughts, for or against this proposal. DEFINITION OF INSULT: speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.... an expression or statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful....a rude or offending remark. Examples from yesterday June 9, 2023 I don't care, your forum is so stupidly structured, apparently you can't delete my comments, and any idiot can read these statements over and over again. Your evidence is exactly what I say, stupid.
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Post by Willyiam on Jun 10, 2023 13:34:14 GMT -5
Violation of Forum Rules: It's apparent that deleting a member's account for having repeatedly insulted other members does not deter the persistence of one who simply registers under another name to continue posting offensive remarks....i.e. hamilton, alias zwergnase. Since an admin has not been appointed to monitor comments, I will create a thread titled "Violations of Forum Rules". I propose that members quote personal insults and/or disrespectful remarks found in further conversation and post them there. That will provide a resource for Admin to consider if/when necessary. Please offer your thoughts, for or against this proposal. DEFINITION OF INSULT: speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse.... an expression or statement (or sometimes behavior) which is disrespectful or scornful....a rude or offending remark. Examples from yesterday June 9, 2023 I don't care, your forum is so stupidly structured, apparently you can't delete my comments, and any idiot can read these statements over and over again. Your evidence is exactly what I say, stupid. lawrence: I fully agree with the new Violation of Forum Rules thread!! The new thread should be added to the Forum Rules thread, but I think only Admin can add it!! Also it should be brought to Admin's attention, that member hamiliton (zwergnase), has violated the rules and should be punished!!
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Post by lawrence on Jun 10, 2023 14:00:54 GMT -5
lawrence: I fully agree with the new Violation of Forum Rules thread!! The new thread should be added to the Forum Rules thread, but I think only Admin can add it!! Also it should be brought to Admin's attention, that member hamiliton (zwergnase), has violated the rules and should be punished!! Thanks for your input, willyiam. The thread could be created independently under Subjects of Interest to Forum Members. But, perhaps Admin will read this proposal and indeed add the thread to Forum Rules, though it seems unlikely he'll see it. Can you or someone contact him and ask?
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Post by Willyiam on Jun 10, 2023 16:18:02 GMT -5
lawrence: I fully agree with the new Violation of Forum Rules thread!! The new thread should be added to the Forum Rules thread, but I think only Admin can add it!! Also it should be brought to Admin's attention, that member hamiliton (zwergnase), has violated the rules and should be punished!! Thanks for your input, willyiam. The thread could be created independently under Subjects of Interest to Forum Members. But, perhaps Admin will read this proposal and indeed add the thread to Forum Rules, though it seems unlikely he'll see it. Can you or someone contact him and ask? I'll PM him and let you know his reply!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2023 6:54:02 GMT -5
Rule #1 (There will be no personal insults of Jackie, her parents, her siblings, her people, or other members allowed.) Definition of insult: speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse (contempt): Note: I don't understand the meaning of "personal" insult as opposed to an impersonal one. Unless, it means "direct", which is unrealistic when referring to Jackie or her family since neither is here to take anything personally. Some here will speak on their behalf for that reason in defense of what is perceived an "indirect" insult (by definition, "to treat with disrespect..."). To the point, I think there needs to be greater clarification here of what constitutes an insult. It seems open to varied and subjective interpretations that often excuse what I perceive to be disrespectful or contemptuous remarks being flung on both sides of disagreement. To me disrespect is not hard to define or to recognize, and neither is contempt. Apparently, however, in the context of a forum they fall within the spectrum of free speech and are therefore rather undefined and acceptable to some degree. To what degree is the question, and when may they be excused or not excused? In my opinion, the definition of "insult" in this context requires closer examination and a more descriptive explanation. For what it's worth I think the matter ought to be pondered in the interest of finding, in part, a resolution in mitigating conflict, unless of course the status quo is acceptable to the majority and needs no further consideration. Personal Insult: You're fat. You're stupid. You're ugly. Your mother is a shrew. Impersonal insult: There is no such thing as an impersonal insult. It has to be personal to be an insult. Here is Admin Rickolsen's interpretation of the rules again.
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Post by lawrence on Jun 11, 2023 7:29:23 GMT -5
Here is Admin Rickolsen's interpretation of the rules again. Quoting Admin: "Personal Insult: You're fat. You're stupid. You're ugly. Your mother is a shrew. Impersonal insult: There is no such thing as an impersonal insult. It has to be personal to be an insult." Admin can define a "personal" insult however he chooses, but the following are dictionary definitions of insult which I think any reasonable person understands. All insults are personal though not expressed directly such as "you are stupid", or rather, "your comment is stupid". The intention is the same, to ridicule. Both are disrespectful. And that's what we are talking about....DISRESPECT toward another member. Definitions of INSULT -speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse: a disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action: an insolent or contemptuously rude action or remark; affront:
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Post by Willyiam on Jun 11, 2023 8:07:04 GMT -5
Here is Admin Rickolsen's interpretation of the rules again. Quoting Admin: "Personal Insult: You're fat. You're stupid. You're ugly. Your mother is a shrew. Impersonal insult: There is no such thing as an impersonal insult. It has to be personal to be an insult." Admin can define a "personal" insult however he chooses, but the following are dictionary definitions of insult which I think any reasonable person understands. All insults are personal though not expressed directly such as "you are stupid", or rather, "your comment is stupid". The intention is the same, to ridicule. Both are disrespectful. And that's what we are talking about....DISRESPECT toward another member. Definitions of INSULT -speak to or treat with disrespect or scornful abuse: a disrespectful or scornfully abusive remark or action: an insolent or contemptuously rude action or remark; affront: This issue is not open for debate! Rule #1 has been violated by hamiliton(zwergnase) on several occasions, which have been documented during this discussion, and needs an Admin response! "1) Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, with respect and kindness."
The insulting language used by hamiliton(zwergnase), is neither respectful or kind! It is meant to be insulting, disrespectful, and hurtful! The rules of this forum have been broken and that needs to be addressed!!
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