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Post by agog on May 13, 2018 17:45:13 GMT -5
Don't know why I have been skipping over this thread for months. Lotta late 'likes' given today.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on May 14, 2018 8:50:05 GMT -5
I really don't count this one as a duet because they didn't actually record this duet together or perform it together at a concert. It really doesn't matter what you or I call it. Look what Amazon and You Tube calls it. A quick search for famous duets and you will find the likes of Natalie Cole and her dad, Nat. 'Unforgettable' was a duet and pretty good, and he was dead. Elvis has a duet with Carrie Underwood. I can't say Elvis is dead or Rick will get upset. One thing I do know, I bettcha DF wrote a big check to the Babs for singing with Jackie. Two people singing at the same time is a duet, even if one is not there. Streisand wasn't even singing in the same year, much less the same time. Foster took an old track he had produced for a 1985 Streisand album and blended it with Jackie's voice. Not sure whether he had to pay Streisand anything extra or just standard royalties.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 10:01:09 GMT -5
Streisand wasn't even singing in the same year, much less the same time. Foster took an old track he had produced for a 1985 Streisand album and blended it with Jackie's voice. Not sure whether he had to pay Streisand anything extra or just standard royalties. Thank you for your wise input. But, what was the original question ?
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Post by yellowstone2014 on May 14, 2018 10:07:05 GMT -5
Streisand wasn't even singing in the same year, much less the same time. Foster took an old track he had produced for a 1985 Streisand album and blended it with Jackie's voice. Not sure whether he had to pay Streisand anything extra or just standard royalties.We don't know, if DF had to pay Barbra. But I'm sure, he had to ask her if she agrees, to arrange this song in the way he did. And even, if Jackie and Barbra never met in person, I guess, it was a great honor for Jackie to sing with this legend. Mrs. Streisand would never have agreed to record with a then 11 year old girl, if she would not have been assured, that Jackie had the level to sing with her one of her greatest songs. I wonder, if Mrs. Streisand heard this "duet" and what was her reaction. I guess - no, I'm sure - she was very satisfied and right with her decision, to allow this production. Edit: there are about 1,450 comments on this video. I didn't read them all. But I couldn't find one negative. Most of them are enthusiastic like "magic", "makes me cry", "get goosebumps". "in awe", "jaw-dropping", "brilliant", "stunning", and so on. Just two comments: Kelly Green I've listened to this probably literally 50 times it's the most wonderful song and just reminds me of a song you would have in heaven Maria Eskandanian Listening and watching this transports me to the skies...I can feel the lift in the air as my soul suddenly is released and I am flying, singing and everything is right. That is what this performance does for me. What an incredible gift this girl has.
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Post by agog on May 14, 2018 11:58:30 GMT -5
Thank you for your wise input. But, what was the original question ? Oh, you forgot too? I don't feel so bad now. Thanks Wayne.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on May 14, 2018 12:00:13 GMT -5
Streisand wasn't even singing in the same year, much less the same time. Foster took an old track he had produced for a 1985 Streisand album and blended it with Jackie's voice. Not sure whether he had to pay Streisand anything extra or just standard royalties.We don't know, if DF had to pay Barbra. But I'm sure, he had to ask her if she agrees, to arrange this song in the way he did. And even, if Jackie and Barbra never met in person, I guess, it was a great honor for Jackie to sing with this legend. Mrs. Streisand would never have agreed to record with a then 11 year old girl, if she would not have been assured, that Jackie had the level to sing with her one of her greatest songs. I wonder, if Mrs. Streisand heard this "duet" and what was her reaction. I guess - no, I'm sure - she was very satisfied and right with her decision, to allow this production. Edit: there are about 1,450 comments on this video. I didn't read them all. But I couldn't find one negative. Most of them are enthusiastic like "magic", "makes me cry", "get goosebumps". "in awe", "jaw-dropping", "brilliant", "stunning", and so on. Just two comments: Kelly Green I've listened to this probably literally 50 times it's the most wonderful song and just reminds me of a song you would have in heaven Maria Eskandanian Listening and watching this transports me to the skies...I can feel the lift in the air as my soul suddenly is released and I am flying, singing and everything is right. That is what this performance does for me. What an incredible gift this girl has. It is not Streisand's song. As I remember, she sang it in 1985 as part of an album Foster produced of Streisand singing show stoppers from Broadway musicals. The composer got royalties for the song use and Streisand got royalties, too, if he used her recorded track to blend with Jackie's performance. Perhaps, as a courtesy, Foster would have let his friend Streisand know ahead of time, but as far as I know, there is no legal requirement. Anyone know differently?
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Post by johnnyb on May 14, 2018 12:23:03 GMT -5
We don't know, if DF had to pay Barbra. But I'm sure, he had to ask her if she agrees, to arrange this song in the way he did. And even, if Jackie and Barbra never met in person, I guess, it was a great honor for Jackie to sing with this legend. Mrs. Streisand would never have agreed to record with a then 11 year old girl, if she would not have been assured, that Jackie had the level to sing with her one of her greatest songs. I wonder, if Mrs. Streisand heard this "duet" and what was her reaction. I guess - no, I'm sure - she was very satisfied and right with her decision, to allow this production. Edit: there are about 1,450 comments on this video. I didn't read them all. But I couldn't find one negative. Most of them are enthusiastic like "magic", "makes me cry", "get goosebumps". "in awe", "jaw-dropping", "brilliant", "stunning", and so on. Just two comments: Kelly Green I've listened to this probably literally 50 times it's the most wonderful song and just reminds me of a song you would have in heaven Maria Eskandanian Listening and watching this transports me to the skies...I can feel the lift in the air as my soul suddenly is released and I am flying, singing and everything is right. That is what this performance does for me. What an incredible gift this girl has. It is not Streisand's song. As I remember, she sang it in 1985 as part of an album Foster produced of Streisand singing show stoppers from Broadway musicals. The composer got royalties for the song use and Streisand got royalties, too, if he used her recorded track to blend with Jackie's performance. Perhaps, as a courtesy, Foster would have let his friend Streisand know ahead of time, but as far as I know, there is no legal requirement. Anyone know differently? All I know is that Babs asked David Foster if there was anything he wanted her to fix on the track. Jackie was also very proud to say that Babs said great things about her voice.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 12:27:14 GMT -5
It is not Streisand's song. As I remember, she sang it in 1985 as part of an album Foster produced of Streisand singing show stoppers from Broadway musicals. The composer got royalties for the song use and Streisand got royalties, too, if he used her recorded track to blend with Jackie's performance. Perhaps, as a courtesy, Foster would have let his friend Streisand know ahead of time, but as far as I know, there is no legal requirement. Anyone know differently? If that track got radio play, neither Streisand or Jackie would earn royalties, but since it was Streisand's recording that was used, she probably got royalties from each sale of that particular track, just like Jackie did, even though it was an old recording. And of course the songwriters got royalties as well. Edit: DF would have needed Streisand's permission because when singers do virtual duets with dead people, they need the permission of the estate, and royalties are paid to the estate.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on May 14, 2018 12:32:44 GMT -5
We don't know, if DF had to pay Barbra. But I'm sure, he had to ask her if she agrees, to arrange this song in the way he did. And even, if Jackie and Barbra never met in person, I guess, it was a great honor for Jackie to sing with this legend. Mrs. Streisand would never have agreed to record with a then 11 year old girl, if she would not have been assured, that Jackie had the level to sing with her one of her greatest songs. I wonder, if Mrs. Streisand heard this "duet" and what was her reaction. I guess - no, I'm sure - she was very satisfied and right with her decision, to allow this production. Edit: there are about 1,450 comments on this video. I didn't read them all. But I couldn't find one negative. Most of them are enthusiastic like "magic", "makes me cry", "get goosebumps". "in awe", "jaw-dropping", "brilliant", "stunning", and so on. Just two comments: Kelly Green I've listened to this probably literally 50 times it's the most wonderful song and just reminds me of a song you would have in heaven Maria Eskandanian Listening and watching this transports me to the skies...I can feel the lift in the air as my soul suddenly is released and I am flying, singing and everything is right. That is what this performance does for me. What an incredible gift this girl has. It is not Streisand's song. As I remember, she sang it in 1985 as part of an album Foster produced of Streisand singing show stoppers from Broadway musicals. The composer got royalties for the song use and Streisand got royalties, too, if he used her recorded track to blend with Jackie's performance. Perhaps, as a courtesy, Foster would have let his friend Streisand know ahead of time, but as far as I know, there is no legal requirement. Anyone know differently? May be, you are right. But anyway, if you use somebody's voice to mix with another voice and you put the product on a CD, which is sold, for sure, you have to ask if she/he agrees.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 13:34:50 GMT -5
Thank you for your wise input. But, what was the original question ? Oh, you forgot too? I don't feel so bad now. Thanks Wayne. Is the Jackie/Streisand recording of Somewhere a duet? I said it might be called a "mix", though I call it a duet. cer didn't call it anything, just that it "doesn't count as a duet". wayne didn't say Elvis is dead. anonynous calls it a "virtual duet". But, Jackie's part was real. Maybe cer would do some research to learn the technical term since it was important to take issue with it. Jackie did a "no count virtual duet voice-over mix" of Hallelujah with Peter Hollens. I'll call it a "duet".
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 16:08:02 GMT -5
Excerpt from a technical article, "How To Record a Duet":
Technical Editor Hugh Robjohns: "Ideally a duet would be sung by both singers at the same time, so that they can interact and respond to each other naturally and instinctively. To do that, it helps if they are in the same room with good eye contact between them, of course. However, the wonders of technology are such that it's possible for artists to perform separately at different times and in different countries on different continents, if necessary, and then combine their efforts. Recently there have even been examples of duets recorded long after one of the artists has died..."
Apparently "duet" is an applicable term for the Jackie/Streisand recording of Somewhere, and The Prayer with Susan Boyle, or Guardian Angels with Placido Domingo.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 17:16:46 GMT -5
Excerpt from a technical article, "How To Record a Duet": Technical Editor Hugh Robjohns: "Ideally a duet would be sung by both singers at the same time, so that they can interact and respond to each other naturally and instinctively. To do that, it helps if they are in the same room with good eye contact between them, of course. However, the wonders of technology are such that it's possible for artists to perform separately at different times and in different countries on different continents, if necessary, and then combine their efforts. Recently there have even been examples of duets recorded long after one of the artists has died..." Apparently "duet" is an applicable term for the Jackie/Streisand recording of Somewhere, and The Prayer with Susan Boyle, or Guardian Angels with Placido Domingo. Isn't it great how you can make one little post about how you like one song and four pages later it is still going. That's is how it is supposed to be. And not one name calling. I blame Yogi.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on May 14, 2018 18:58:31 GMT -5
It is not Streisand's song. As I remember, she sang it in 1985 as part of an album Foster produced of Streisand singing show stoppers from Broadway musicals. The composer got royalties for the song use and Streisand got royalties, too, if he used her recorded track to blend with Jackie's performance. Perhaps, as a courtesy, Foster would have let his friend Streisand know ahead of time, but as far as I know, there is no legal requirement. Anyone know differently? If that track got radio play, neither Streisand or Jackie would earn royalties, but since it was Streisand's recording that was used, she probably got royalties from each sale of that particular track, just like Jackie did, even though it was an old recording. And of course the songwriters got royalties as well. Edit: DF would have needed Streisand's permission because when singers do virtual duets with dead people, they need the permission of the estate, and royalties are paid to the estate. Yes, doubt there was much if any radio play, anyhow. But, as I understood it, royalties are automatically assigned to the performer or performers if the track is used. It's part of the long time regulations governing the music business.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 19:17:33 GMT -5
But, as I understood it, royalties are automatically assigned to the performer or performers if the track is used. It's part of the long time regulations governing the music business. Are you talking about what happens with radio play? The songwriters get royalties for each spin the track gets, not the singer, unless they also wrote the song. But radio play is terrific promotion for the singers and helps with album and concert ticket sales.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 19:54:30 GMT -5
Maybe when this American Idol gig is up, Jackie can duet with her buddie Gabby. (Last three)
Put on a Classical Country night at the barn.
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