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Post by juxtaposer on Dec 27, 2016 15:45:12 GMT -5
The bit about Jackie's real abilities being thought less of by some because God was more deserving of the credit is very odd, and surely a fringe opinion even among those with deep religious convictions. I think she's not saying that it's an opinion, but an unconscious psychological process, that enabled some people to reconcile what they couldn't quite believe- that little girl and that voice, that level of ability. Other people say, she's just a mimic. She covers that too, and denies its validity, noting that music prodigies typically are more interested in expression than in technique. Divine associations are only a part of her analysis. She doesn't disparage religion at all, or at least any more than any other bug under her microscope. did the humanist academic only put the spotlight on the religious ones? No, not at all. In fact she noted that people with no pretence to any sort of piety were often inspired nevertheless to express themselves in religious terms about Jackie. In other words, you could say, she could give a religious experience even to atheists!
The problem comes when she becomes a teenager, is no longer the perfect haloed girl-child, those who have reconciled themselves to her ability in this way experience a reaction against her, having got used to that attitude. Psychological works are referenced. There may be more former followers that have faded in this way than we like to imagine. As you say, her challenge is to gain new fans- under a new paradigm. All of us here, I am sure, think her well equipped to succeed. Here is Jackie in action giving a religious or quasi-religious experience to those assembled at the secular temple of Disneyland. (I also love this one for the behind the scenes care and affection we get to see between Jackie and her mother, which makes it very special).
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Post by Beachguy on Dec 29, 2016 11:16:23 GMT -5
I'll always remember a comment on YouTube where the poster truly believed that Jackie was chosen by God to become known to us, then to deliver a message, i.e. be a messianic figure. I remember thinking that would creep me out if people thought that about my child. I prefer the explanation given in the 20/20 segment, that it's Jackie's brain, as it always seemed to me that she simply willed herself to sound like that. Could be Jackie's brain. Could be what's going on in our brains too, or both. Could be her vocals cores passed down from her parents , I sound as my father , that is what I believe period ,btw what kind of music is played in this heaven ? Ps will some hear the same from her at 25 as was ten ? I believe a Miss Temple made people cry
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Post by jrchico on Dec 29, 2016 17:08:31 GMT -5
Could be Jackie's brain. Could be what's going on in our brains too, or both. Could be her vocals cores passed down from her parents , I sound as my father , that is what I believe period ,btw what kind of music is played in this heaven ? Ps will some hear the same from her at 25 as was ten ? I believe a Miss Temple made people cry I think Shirley Temple was an actress, not necessarily a singer. I am sure that Jackie will be better at 25 than she was at 10 as she just keeps upping her game.
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Post by Beachguy on Dec 30, 2016 8:53:56 GMT -5
Could be her vocals cores passed down from her parents , I sound as my father , that is what I believe period ,btw what kind of music is played in this heaven ? Ps will some hear the same from her at 25 as was ten ? I believe a Miss Temple made people cry I think Shirley Temple was an actress, not necessarily a singer. I am sure that Jackie will be better at 25 than she was at 10 as she just keeps upping her game. Yes she was a singer also as Jackie is a actress , time will tell as Jackie was to me very good at 12 year old , in fact I think few songs were her best like her ND and Dark Waltz and of course " Lovers " at that age but again my opinion only btw if a God gave her the voice and ability what credit does she deserve
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Post by juxtaposer on Jan 10, 2017 21:40:37 GMT -5
“Nature is a revelation of God; Art a revelation of man.” ―Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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Post by juxtaposer on Jan 12, 2017 22:45:03 GMT -5
One day Jackie might have some fun with the angel image. Here are some more angels, a whole orchestra of them, apparently.
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Post by pgantioch on Jan 18, 2017 12:41:21 GMT -5
Ursus posted this in the Jan 20th 2017 inauguration thread. It's an article by Dana Gorzelany-Mostak, the same academic who wrote the book cited by the OP (schrodinger) in this thread. I thought it should also be posted here. Ursus: I am not sure where this lengthy essay about Jackie should be posted. If the moderators feel it should be elsewhere, please move it. "Donald Trump, Jackie Evancho, and the Performance of Embattled Whiteness" musicologynow.ams-net.org/2017/01/donald-trump-jackie-evancho-and.html
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Post by ursus on Jan 18, 2017 12:45:09 GMT -5
Ursus posted this in the Jan 20th 2017 inauguration thread. It's an article by Dana Gorzelany-Mostak, the same academic who wrote the book cited by the OP (schrodinger) in this thread. I thought it should also be posted here. Ursus: I am not sure where this lengthy essay about Jackie should be posted. If the moderators feel it should be elsewhere, please move it. "Donald Trump, Jackie Evancho, and the Performance of Embattled Whiteness" musicologynow.ams-net.org/2017/01/donald-trump-jackie-evancho-and.html This is a better place for it. I didn't realize that this thread existed.
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Post by jrchico on Jan 18, 2017 13:22:51 GMT -5
Ursus posted this in the Jan 20th 2017 inauguration thread. It's an article by Dana Gorzelany-Mostak, the same academic who wrote the book cited by the OP (schrodinger) in this thread. I thought it should also be posted here. Ursus: I am not sure where this lengthy essay about Jackie should be posted. If the moderators feel it should be elsewhere, please move it. "Donald Trump, Jackie Evancho, and the Performance of Embattled Whiteness" musicologynow.ams-net.org/2017/01/donald-trump-jackie-evancho-and.html This is a better place for it. I didn't realize that this thread existed. Great article. Lets make it easier for everyone to access. musicologynow.ams-net.org/2017/01/donald-trump-jackie-evancho-and.html
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