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Post by lawrence on Jun 29, 2022 1:00:30 GMT -5
Passaggio (passage) is a term in classical singing used to describe the transition between the vocal registers. A vocal register is the range of tones a certain voice type can reliably produce. Most voices can be divided roughly into three main registers, they being the CHEST voice (normal singing voice), the MIXED voice (middle) and the HEAD voice (highest). There are additional registers....VOCAL FRY (a raspy sound at the bottom of the normal voice), FALSETTO (false voice) and WHISTLE register (the highest register the human voice is capable of producing). Jackie uses Vocal Fry often in her pop covers. But, she has never used the Whistle register. Mariah Carey is famous for her Whistle register.
FALSETTO is "the vocal register occupying the frequency range just above the modal voice register (chest voice) and overlapping with it by approximately one octave. The term falsetto is most often used in reference to a type of vocal phonation that enables the singer to perform notes beyond the vocal range of the normal or modal voice. However, the typical tone of falsetto register usually has a characteristic breathy and flute-like sound relatively free of overtones —which is more limited and weaker than its modal counterpart in both dynamic variation and tone quality. Most untrained singers will sound comparatively "breathy" or "hooty" when using falsetto production. However, there are in rare cases individuals who have developed a much stronger falsetto sound production which has more 'ring' to it".
Jackies falsetto, more accurately her head voice, is strong and has that "ring", commonly called a "bell-tone", an exceptionally pure tone, like that produced by running one's finger around the rim of a wine glass. This "bell-tone" has been Jackie's signature throughout her career. The head voice is one of the two primary vocal registers of a singer typically used interchangeably throughout a performance. Like falsetto, it is also the extent of notes on the upper level of one's singing voice, above Chest voice. With regard to passaggio, and Jackie's use of it, I'm addressing the transition between Chest voice and Head voice here.
Note: The passaggio is often a noticeable break in the voice, or "flip" from chest voice to head voice or falsetto, and in many cases distracting. An example is Sam Smith's demanding switch to falsetto in his original, "Writing's on The Wall"...very obvious and not well executed, in my opinion. It is evident at time mark 1:28 in his official video. The line is, "How do I live, how do I breath...".
Jackie's passagio has always been uniquely "seamless", meaning that THERE IS NO BREAK (gap, voice crack, or flip) between her chest voice and head voice. Consequently, the listener is not aware she has made the transition. She doesn't have to work at "mastering" a smooth passaggio, rather it has been a natural asset since she was a child. She may not even have been aware of what she was doing technically. Keep in mind that Jackie has had no vocal training, and has always been an "instinctual" singer. Furthermore, she can and will sing her high notes in either chest or head voice depending upon the "color" she wants to give them. Not withstanding, she has control of her dynamics in either register. She uses her head voice creatively. That is, she will intentionally use head voice within her chest voice range when she wants to give a note or phrase a lighter, more lyrical quality than what her chest voice produces. Or, she may give more power to it with her signature "bell-tone", depending upon the affect she wants or the emotion she is conveying in a song, or most likely feels. She may also transition from chest to head voice within a single note when she wants it to fade softly. I personally know of no other singer who does that. Jackie is a very adept and creative vocalist who uses her head voice as a tool. She once said, "I discovered that I can make my voice do anything I want it to". And, she does it masterfully, so well in fact that the average listener doesn't fully appreciate what she is actually doing. To them, she's just making beautiful music that can't be defined as other than "inexplicably enchanting....How does she do that?!". One can't say she isn't working while singing. She is CRAFTING the song. Every note she sings is purposeful, always in control of her registers and her passaggio.
The attributes of having a bell-tone head voice, a seamless passagio and her ability to interchange registers creatively, together with her exceptional interpretive skill, contribute to making Jackie the unique vocalist she is and always has been. In this 11-minute video of clips from her San Jose concert in late 2019 you see her at work, and at her pleasure as well, switching registers smoothly and for the most part imperceptibly at will. She ends the concert with a B5 in full chest voice, arms in the air...."VINCERO!".
The second video below demonstrates the difficulty most singers have with passaggio.
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Post by lawrence on Jul 4, 2022 13:16:37 GMT -5
Passaggio (passage) is a term in classical singing used to describe the transition between the vocal registers. A vocal register is the range of tones a certain voice type can reliably produce. Vocal coach, Tara Simon, sings through the registers: chest voice > mixed voice > head voice > Whistle register > back down to vocal fry
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 1:29:55 GMT -5
Passaggio (passage) is a term in classical singing used to describe the transition between the vocal registers. A vocal register is the range of tones a certain voice type can reliably produce. Most voices can be divided roughly into three main registers, they being the CHEST voice (normal singing voice), the MIXED voice (middle) and the HEAD voice (highest). There are additional registers....VOCAL FRY (a raspy sound at the bottom of the normal voice), FALSETTO (false voice) and WHISTLE register (the highest register the human voice is capable of producing). Jackie uses Vocal Fry often in her pop covers. But, she has never used the Whistle register. Mariah Carey is famous for her Whistle register. FALSETTO is "the vocal register occupying the frequency range just above the modal voice register (chest voice) and overlapping with it by approximately one octave. The term falsetto is most often used in reference to a type of vocal phonation that enables the singer to perform notes beyond the vocal range of the normal or modal voice. However, the typical tone of falsetto register usually has a characteristic breathy and flute-like sound relatively free of overtones —which is more limited and weaker than its modal counterpart in both dynamic variation and tone quality. Most untrained singers will sound comparatively "breathy" or "hooty" when using falsetto production. However, there are in rare cases individuals who have developed a much stronger falsetto sound production which has more 'ring' to it". Jackies falsetto, more accurately her head voice, is strong and has that "ring", commonly called a "bell-tone", an exceptionally pure tone, like that produced by running one's finger around the rim of a wine glass. This "bell-tone" has been Jackie's signature throughout her career. The head voice is one of the two primary vocal registers of a singer typically used interchangeably throughout a performance. Like falsetto, it is also the extent of notes on the upper level of one's singing voice, above Chest voice. With regard to passaggio, and Jackie's use of it, I'm addressing the transition between Chest voice and Head voice here. Note: The passaggio is often a noticeable break in the voice, or "flip" from chest voice to head voice or falsetto, and in many cases distracting. An example is Sam Smith's demanding switch to falsetto in his original, "Writing's on The Wall"...very obvious and not well executed, in my opinion. It is evident at time mark 1:28 in his official video. The line is, "How do I live, how do I breath...". Jackie's passagio has always been uniquely "seamless", meaning that THERE IS NO BREAK (gap, voice crack, or flip) between her chest voice and head voice. Consequently, the listener is not aware she has made the transition. She doesn't have to work at "mastering" a smooth passaggio, rather it has been a natural asset since she was a child. She may not even have been aware of what she was doing technically. Keep in mind that Jackie has had no vocal training, and has always been an "instinctual" singer. Furthermore, she can and will sing her high notes in either chest or head voice depending upon the "color" she wants to give them. Not withstanding, she has control of her dynamics in either register. She uses her head voice creatively. That is, she will intentionally use head voice within her chest voice range when she wants to give a note or phrase a lighter, more lyrical quality than what her chest voice produces. Or, she may give more power to it with her signature "bell-tone", depending upon the affect she wants or the emotion she is conveying in a song, or most likely feels. She may also transition from chest to head voice within a single note when she wants it to fade softly. I personally know of no other singer who does that. Jackie is a very adept and creative vocalist who uses her head voice as a tool. She once said, "I discovered that I can make my voice do anything I want it to". And, she does it masterfully, so well in fact that the average listener doesn't fully appreciate what she is actually doing. To them, she's just making beautiful music that can't be defined as other than "inexplicably enchanting....How does she do that?!". One can't say she isn't working while singing. She is CRAFTING the song. Every note she sings is purposeful, always in control of her registers and her passaggio. The attributes of having a bell-tone head voice, a seamless passagio and her ability to interchange registers creatively, together with her exceptional interpretive skill, contribute to making Jackie the unique vocalist she is and always has been. In this 11-minute video of clips from her San Jose concert in late 2019 you see her at work, and at her pleasure as well, switching registers smoothly and for the most part imperceptibly at will. She ends the concert with a B5 in full chest voice, arms in the air...."VINCERO!". The second video below demonstrates the difficulty most singers have with passaggio. This is complete nonsense, clueless garbage. Where are the Jackie's Passagio, or Bridges as it is called in Pobgesang. How can you tell that it's seamless if you don't know where it is, where jackie sings the transition from mixed voice to headvoice in the video. The B5 is headvoice or falsett, not chest voice that is clearly audible. Jackie's first transition is E4, her second F5. Female singers rarely have problems with the transition.
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Post by lawrence on Jul 12, 2022 13:25:49 GMT -5
Where are the Jackie's Passagio, or Bridges as it is called in Pobgesang. How can you tell that it's seamless if you don't know where it is If you could tell where it is, it wouldn't be seamless, would it? That's the whole idea of developing a smooth passaggio, one that is nearly indetectible....no "flip" or "gap" between registers. Can you tell where the passaggi are in this demonstration that was posted above?
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Post by theanastasialee on Jul 12, 2022 22:27:37 GMT -5
Passaggio (passage) is a term in classical singing used to describe the transition between the vocal registers. A vocal register is the range of tones a certain voice type can reliably produce. Most voices can be divided roughly into three main registers, they being the CHEST voice (normal singing voice), the MIXED voice (middle) and the HEAD voice (highest). There are additional registers....VOCAL FRY (a raspy sound at the bottom of the normal voice), FALSETTO (false voice) and WHISTLE register (the highest register the human voice is capable of producing). Jackie uses Vocal Fry often in her pop covers. But, she has never used the Whistle register. Mariah Carey is famous for her Whistle register. FALSETTO is "the vocal register occupying the frequency range just above the modal voice register (chest voice) and overlapping with it by approximately one octave. The term falsetto is most often used in reference to a type of vocal phonation that enables the singer to perform notes beyond the vocal range of the normal or modal voice. However, the typical tone of falsetto register usually has a characteristic breathy and flute-like sound relatively free of overtones —which is more limited and weaker than its modal counterpart in both dynamic variation and tone quality. Most untrained singers will sound comparatively "breathy" or "hooty" when using falsetto production. However, there are in rare cases individuals who have developed a much stronger falsetto sound production which has more 'ring' to it". Jackies falsetto, more accurately her head voice, is strong and has that "ring", commonly called a "bell-tone", an exceptionally pure tone, like that produced by running one's finger around the rim of a wine glass. This "bell-tone" has been Jackie's signature throughout her career. The head voice is one of the two primary vocal registers of a singer typically used interchangeably throughout a performance. Like falsetto, it is also the extent of notes on the upper level of one's singing voice, above Chest voice. With regard to passaggio, and Jackie's use of it, I'm addressing the transition between Chest voice and Head voice here. Note: The passaggio is often a noticeable break in the voice, or "flip" from chest voice to head voice or falsetto, and in many cases distracting. An example is Sam Smith's demanding switch to falsetto in his original, "Writing's on The Wall"...very obvious and not well executed, in my opinion. It is evident at time mark 1:28 in his official video. The line is, "How do I live, how do I breath...". Jackie's passagio has always been uniquely "seamless", meaning that THERE IS NO BREAK (gap, voice crack, or flip) between her chest voice and head voice. Consequently, the listener is not aware she has made the transition. She doesn't have to work at "mastering" a smooth passaggio, rather it has been a natural asset since she was a child. She may not even have been aware of what she was doing technically. Keep in mind that Jackie has had no vocal training, and has always been an "instinctual" singer. Furthermore, she can and will sing her high notes in either chest or head voice depending upon the "color" she wants to give them. Not withstanding, she has control of her dynamics in either register. She uses her head voice creatively. That is, she will intentionally use head voice within her chest voice range when she wants to give a note or phrase a lighter, more lyrical quality than what her chest voice produces. Or, she may give more power to it with her signature "bell-tone", depending upon the affect she wants or the emotion she is conveying in a song, or most likely feels. She may also transition from chest to head voice within a single note when she wants it to fade softly. I personally know of no other singer who does that. Jackie is a very adept and creative vocalist who uses her head voice as a tool. She once said, "I discovered that I can make my voice do anything I want it to". And, she does it masterfully, so well in fact that the average listener doesn't fully appreciate what she is actually doing. To them, she's just making beautiful music that can't be defined as other than "inexplicably enchanting....How does she do that?!". One can't say she isn't working while singing. She is CRAFTING the song. Every note she sings is purposeful, always in control of her registers and her passaggio. The attributes of having a bell-tone head voice, a seamless passagio and her ability to interchange registers creatively, together with her exceptional interpretive skill, contribute to making Jackie the unique vocalist she is and always has been. In this 11-minute video of clips from her San Jose concert in late 2019 you see her at work, and at her pleasure as well, switching registers smoothly and for the most part imperceptibly at will. She ends the concert with a B5 in full chest voice, arms in the air...."VINCERO!". The second video below demonstrates the difficulty most singers have with passaggio. This is complete nonsense, clueless garbage. Where are the Jackie's Passagio, or Bridges as it is called in Pobgesang. How can you tell that it's seamless if you don't know where it is, where jackie sings the transition from mixed voice to headvoice in the video. The B5 is headvoice or falsett, not chest voice that is clearly audible. Jackie's first transition is E4, her second F5. Female singers rarely have problems with the transition. Oh boy. ACTUALLY, female singers OFTEN have huge issues with the transition from head to chest voice. It’s this funky few notes that crack easily and you need extra training on that range to control it.
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Post by lawrence on Jul 12, 2022 22:56:33 GMT -5
The B5 is headvoice or falsett, not chest voice that is clearly audible. It seems you have difficulty distinguishing Jackie's head voice from her chest voice. Otherwise you'd know when she's made a transition (passaggio) to head voice and back. It is especially difficult when she moves through a transition smoothly/seamlessly. To demonstrate a dramatic transition, listen to her performance for World's Got Talent. At 0:24/28, 0:57 and 1:15 she goes into her head voice with her signature bell-tone. The rest of the medley is in chest voice finishing with her B5 high note.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 23:47:12 GMT -5
This is complete nonsense, clueless garbage. Where are the Jackie's Passagio, or Bridges as it is called in Pobgesang. How can you tell that it's seamless if you don't know where it is, where jackie sings the transition from mixed voice to headvoice in the video. The B5 is headvoice or falsett, not chest voice that is clearly audible. Jackie's first transition is E4, her second F5. Female singers rarely have problems with the transition. Oh boy. ACTUALLY, female singers OFTEN have huge issues with the transition from head to chest voice. It’s this funky few notes that crack easily and you need extra training on that range to control it. Currently, almost none of my well-known singers had problems with the transition, they have been singing in choirs since their childhood.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 0:17:59 GMT -5
The B5 is headvoice or falsett, not chest voice that is clearly audible. It seems you have difficulty distinguishing Jackie's head voice from her chest voice. Otherwise you'd know when she's made a transition (passaggio) to head voice and back. It is especially difficult when she moves through a transition smoothly/seamlessly. To demonstrate a dramatic transition, listen to her performance for World's Got Talent. At 0:24/28, 0:57 and 1:15 she goes into her head voice with her signature bell-tone. The rest of the medley is in chest voice finishing with her B5 high note. in your linked video Jackie sings several transitions, e.g. 0.24 from G4 in mixedvoice to E5 headvoice, so a transition tone from E5 would be true, but not mandatory. Jackie can sing up to f5 in mixed voice. jackie sings all tones over f5 only with headvoice.
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Post by theanastasialee on Jul 13, 2022 14:49:05 GMT -5
Oh boy. ACTUALLY, female singers OFTEN have huge issues with the transition from head to chest voice. It’s this funky few notes that crack easily and you need extra training on that range to control it. Currently, almost none of my well-known singers had problems with the transition, they have been singing in choirs since their childhood. People rarely admit to it. Every singer has that “few notes” in the middle of their range that are a b*tch. Every singer. Sorry.
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Post by lawrence on Jul 13, 2022 19:33:31 GMT -5
jackie sings all tones over f5 only with headvoice. How do you characterize Jackie's head voice so one will recognize it? Don't say it's any note above F5, which is not necessarily a fact, rather your assertion. I mean describe the tonal quality that distinguishes it from her chest voice.
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Post by theanastasialee on Jul 13, 2022 20:40:29 GMT -5
jackie sings all tones over f5 only with headvoice. How do you characterize Jackie's head voice so one will recognize it? Don't say it's any note above F5, which is not necessarily a fact, rather your assertion. I mean describe the tonal quality that distinguishes it from her chest voice. There’s also mixed voice which employs head/chest simultaneously. She uses it a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 23:34:31 GMT -5
Currently, almost none of my well-known singers had problems with the transition, they have been singing in choirs since their childhood. People rarely admit to it. Every singer has that “few notes” in the middle of their range that are a b*tch. Every singer. Sorry. For me it is a qualitative difference whether a male singer unintentionally changes from the chest time to the head voice or a female singer has problems with the transition mixed voice to the head voice upper chest voice.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2022 0:08:19 GMT -5
jackie sings all tones over f5 only with headvoice. How do you characterize Jackie's head voice so one will recognize it? Don't say it's any note above F5, which is not necessarily a fact, rather your assertion. I mean describe the tonal quality that distinguishes it from her chest voice. One thing must be made clear. You write here about Jackie's seamless Passagio, you have to prove that it is seamless, you have to prove where the Passagio is, then you have to find a passage in which Jackie sings a tone sequence in the area of the transition. You have to prove it, not me. Your statements "FALSETTO is "the vocal register occupying the frequency range just above the modal voice register (chest voice) " is wrong. The modal register is the register used for the most common phonation of vowels. It is the area in which one speaks or sings. Falsetto is not head voice. Jackie not only has a bell tone head voice but also and above all bell tone mixed voice. You yourself give time for your video in which Jackie sings in your opinion head voice, this the tonal quality is the same as with the tones at the end (all Vincero). Jackie doesn't sing a note in the chest voice, only mixed voice and head voice. Jackie sings the mixed voice in the head mix, so mostly head voice.
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Post by lawrence on Jul 14, 2022 18:49:56 GMT -5
How do you characterize Jackie's head voice so one will recognize it? Don't say it's any note above F5, which is not necessarily a fact, rather your assertion. I mean describe the tonal quality that distinguishes it from her chest voice. One thing must be made clear. You write here about Jackie's seamless Passagio, you have to prove that it is seamless, you have to prove where the Passagio is, then you have to find a passage in which Jackie sings a tone sequence in the area of the transition. You have to prove it, not me. Your statements "FALSETTO is "the vocal register occupying the frequency range just above the modal voice register (chest voice) " is wrong. The modal register is the register used for the most common phonation of vowels. It is the area in which one speaks or sings. Falsetto is not head voice. Jackie not only has a bell tone head voice but also and above all bell tone mixed voice. You yourself give time for your video in which Jackie sings in your opinion head voice, this the tonal quality is the same as with the tones at the end (all Vincero). Jackie doesn't sing a note in the chest voice, only mixed voice and head voice. Jackie sings the mixed voice in the head mix, so mostly head voice. With regard to "seamless passaggio", I refer you AGAIN to this video on which I commented: "If you could tell where it is, it wouldn't be seamless, would it? That's the whole idea of developing a smooth passaggio, one that is nearly indetectible....no "flip" or "gap" between registers. Can you tell where the passaggi are in this demonstration?" If it delays, click on the screen and click again. These are "seamless" transitions, at least to other than an expert who MIGHT detect the transition points. I can't. I'm certain you can't either. Jackie's seamless passaggio are likewise not detectible, and therefore cannot be pointed out (they're not always seamless as in the WGT performance). But her change in timbre (vocal quality) indicates she has transitioned into head voice. One example: In Caruso, she fades the word "san-gri" with head voice at 3:50 With regard to your protest that my description of falsetto is "wrong", please note that it is in quotes. That means it was written by a professional. I quoted it to be sure to relate an accurate description. You only presented one sentence. Please read the entire paragraph in my initial comment and the one that follows. I'm not going to re-irate it. You say, "Jackie DOESN'T SING A NOTE IN THE CHEST VOICE." That's not my perception, so you'll have to prove it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2022 3:24:27 GMT -5
One thing must be made clear. You write here about Jackie's seamless Passagio, you have to prove that it is seamless, you have to prove where the Passagio is, then you have to find a passage in which Jackie sings a tone sequence in the area of the transition. You have to prove it, not me. Your statements "FALSETTO is "the vocal register occupying the frequency range just above the modal voice register (chest voice) " is wrong. The modal register is the register used for the most common phonation of vowels. It is the area in which one speaks or sings. Falsetto is not head voice. Jackie not only has a bell tone head voice but also and above all bell tone mixed voice. You yourself give time for your video in which Jackie sings in your opinion head voice, this the tonal quality is the same as with the tones at the end (all Vincero). Jackie doesn't sing a note in the chest voice, only mixed voice and head voice. Jackie sings the mixed voice in the head mix, so mostly head voice. With regard to "seamless passaggio", I refer you AGAIN to this video on which I commented: "If you could tell where it is, it wouldn't be seamless, would it? That's the whole idea of developing a smooth passaggio, one that is nearly indetectible....no "flip" or "gap" between registers. Can you tell where the passaggi are in this demonstration?" If it delays, click on the screen and click again. These are "seamless" transitions, at least to other than an expert who MIGHT detect the transition points. I can't. I'm certain you can't either. Jackie's seamless passaggio are likewise not detectible, and therefore cannot be pointed out (they're not always seamless as in the WGT performance). But her change in timbre (vocal quality) indicates she has transitioned into head voice. One example: In Caruso, she fades the word "san-gri" with head voice at 3:50 With regard to your protest that my description of falsetto is "wrong", please note that it is in quotes. That means it was written by a professional. I quoted it to be sure to relate an accurate description. You only presented one sentence. Please read the entire paragraph in my initial comment and the one that follows. I'm not going to re-irate it. You say, "Jackie DOESN'T SING A NOTE IN THE CHEST VOICE." That's not my perception, so you'll have to prove it. falsetto is not Head voice. Here is a video to understand. . The falsetto voice: is a kind of head voice that is not quite "dense"... It comes from the Italian "falso" and, in contrast to the "supported head voice" or "dense head voice", has the great disadvantage that it is "not quite dense". Similar to the whisper voice or the mutational voice break voice, it is a rather harmful voice function. However, it can have artistic value if an airy, breathy high voice is desired for reasons of expression.can do falsetto, but in classical singing she doesn't use it. Once you say this: Most voices can be divided roughly into three main registers, they being the CHEST voice (normal singing voice), the MIXED voice (middle) and the HEAD voice (highest). Then there are only two registers: With regard to passaggio, and Jackie's use of it, I'm addressing the transition between Chest voice and Head voice here. The next one is not true: Keep in mind that Jackie has had no vocal training, and has always been an "instinctual" singer. Jackie has vocal training that is known. The next thing is total nonsense: She may also transition from chest to head voice within a single note when she wants it to fade softly. I personally know of no other singer who does that. Between the chest voice and the head voice lies the mixed voice, and in order to fade a tone you do not change the register but you sing quieter. The remaining written words are just stupid hymns of praise for Jackie's voice that have lost all reality. In this video Jackie sings from second 24 to second 26 from g4 to g5, Jackie goes from mixed voice to head voice. More accurate from second 24.9 to 25.3 . The transition point so the passagio is definitely in between, the transition is seamless. So I can prove that Jackie's passagio is seamless. Why can't you? Your question: You say, "Jackie DOESN'T SING A NOTE IN THE CHEST VOICE." That's not my perception, so you'll have to prove it. Answer: Jackie sings between d4 and b5 in this video. Usually between f4 and g5. None of the tones has the deeper sound of the chest voice all are bright due to large proportion of head voices. In pop and belting, the chest voice is used more strongly and up to higher pitches. Jackie doesn't do that here. But if you hear pure chest voice in the video then please tell me this area, I don't recognize a single sound in chest voice. Your statements that I should prove that Jackie does not sing a note in chest voice here is typical of your arrogance. You have to prove that something exists, not me that it doesn't exist. In your way of thinking, Yeti, Big also seem to existfoot etc because you can't prove they don't exist.
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