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Post by jcas on Mar 7, 2022 12:55:00 GMT -5
Why did Jackie chose to sing Joni Mitchell songs? Maybe for the same reason that the music from Joni Mitchell's 1969 album, Clouds, "poured into me" ... in the days of my long ago 20s; "like butterscotch, ...that stuck to all my senses."
This is the Joni Mitchell I still love to watch and hear, thanks to YouTube, 50 plus years later. It will be extremely interesting to hear which of the many unique songs Joni Mitchell wrote and performed Jackie will chose to sing in concert and for her next album.
But: "..... the trick is, if you listen to (my) music and you see me ..... you're not getting anything out of it. (But) if you listen to that music and you see yourself, it'll probably make you cry, and you'll learn something about yourself, and now you're getting something out of it.". From a Joni Mitchell interview, 2013.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 3:49:41 GMT -5
Joni Mitchell loves this. Jackie comes out way too late with her album of Joni Mitchell Songs.
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Post by jcas on Mar 28, 2022 11:37:28 GMT -5
Could one of the main reasons, at this stage of Jackie's life and career, she decided to sing covers of some of Joni Mitchell's songs is to pay homage to the decidedly best and most prolific female song writer of all time .... before "the last revolving year" of her life, "is through". A chain smoker for many of her 78 years is understandably in failing health. The 211 songs, for which Mitchell composed not only the lyrics, but their melodies of which she's said, the melody came first; then the lyrics .... qualifies her as a musical genius regardless of sex. Very few famous song writers, including George Gershwin, could do both regardless of what came first. The lyricist, George, depended on his brother Ira for the melodies. She also did the art work for most of her album covers. Her use of open tunings on her guitar and application of unique chord progressions, which often was her only instrumental backup, perfectly complimented the ethereal, mystical flavor of many of her songs. Other musicians recognized her as an extraordinarily good musician. She was a whole package. I'm one Jackie fan who's thankful that's she's making the attempt, successfully or un. We don't know which of Mitchell's songs she'll cover for her next album. Two, most likely candidates, are River and Both Sides Now. But she's inspired a revival of my interest in Joni Mitchell and her music after losing track and affection for it due to the very esoteric songs she composed for her Blue album of 1971. Critics rate it as her best and most popular of the 32 she crafted and produced from 1966 to 2003. But not with me. Her earliest songs are my favorites. The Gallery. Songs For Aging Children. Urge for Going. Song to a Seagull. The Circle Game, among a dozen others like them. Their poetry is so extraordinarily, insightfully ... catholic (universal). I have never heard nor read a more profoundly insightful description of the journey most of us take from childhood to when our dreams inevitably begin to lose their grandeur to the ride we must all enjoy and endure ..... on the carousel of time. Especially at 78 .... I can relate. Yesterday a child came out to wonder Caught a dragonfly inside a jar Fearful when the sky was full of thunder And tearful at the falling of a star Then the child moved ten times round the seasons Skated over ten clear frozen streams Words like, when you're older, must appease him And promises of someday make his dreams Sixteen springs and sixteen summers gone now Cartwheels turn to car wheels through the town And they tell him, Take your time, it won't be long now Till you drag your feet to slow the circles down So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true There'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty Before the last revolving year is through And the seasons they go round and round And the painted ponies go up and down We're captive on the carousel of time We can't return, we can only look behind From where we came And go round and round and round In the circle game
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 12:38:29 GMT -5
The classic crossover fans will grumble again, and right now Joni Mitchell is being covered like seldom before. Unfortunately jackie couldn't make the album in 2021, it would have been a better time. I'm curious which songs jackie chose and how she interprets them.
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Post by trebor on Mar 29, 2022 7:31:45 GMT -5
As an OLD fan of Jackie, I like that she is experimenting with different genres...but it is interesting to me that she chose Joni Mitchell, who was a songwriter as well as performer. I know Jackie wants to write her own story, but she has also said she wants her own distinctive style. She would be better to try some of Linda Rondstsdt's work as Linda did not write her own music, she just put her own interpretation on anything she sang and then owned it. IMHO, Jackie would be better served following that path rather than Joni. Try Desperado, Long,Long Time, Heart Like A Wheel, etc. She could do that with her own unique interpretation that would be well received. Linda even did the Pirates of Penzance which is almost opera, actually an operetta. Just consider that Linda was at the top of the Classical, Pop, and Rock and Roll Billboards at the same times shows that she did not stick to one genre. Add to that to the fact that Linda DID NOT write her own material. Watch You Tube..."SOUND OF MY VOICE". That is a musical biography of one of the most successful and versatile female singers of the 20th Century-and one of the most successful recording artist of all time. I will follow Jackie until I die, no matter what she sings.
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Post by jcas on Mar 31, 2022 5:09:55 GMT -5
According to Len Rausch's report of Jackie's concerts this morning, this song from Joni Mitchell's 2nd studio album, Clouds, was included in Jackie's latest set list and will be on her new and next album, apparently dedicated to Mitchell. I'm happy she has. One of my all time favorites of Mitchell's songs. Will be very interesting to hear Jackie's interpretation of it; very difficult and challenging to pull off. The Gallery is, in fact, a cautionary tale based on Joni's brief affair with fellow Canadian singer songwriter, Leonard Cohen while in her young 20s.
When I first saw your gallery
I liked the ones of ladies
Then you began to hang up me
You studied to portray me
In ice and greens
And old blue jeans
And naked in the roses
Then you got into funny scenes
That all your work discloses
"Lady, don't love me now I am dead
I am a saint, turn down your bed
I have no heart," that's what you said
You said, "I can be cruel
But let me be gentle with you"
Somewhere in a magazine
I found a page about you
I see that now it's Josephine
Who cannot be without you
I keep your house in fit repair
I dust the portraits daily
Your mail comes here from everywhere
The writing looks like ladies'
"Lady, please love me now, I am dead
I am a saint, turn down your bed
I have no heart," that's what you said
You said, "I can be cruel
But let me be gentle with you"
I gave you all my pretty years
Then we began to weather
And I was left to winter here
While you went west for pleasure
And now you're flying back this way
Like some lost homing pigeon
They've monitored your brain, you say
And changed you with religion
"Lady, please love me now I was dead
I am no saint, turn down your bed
Lady, have you no heart," that's what you said
Well, I can be cruel
But let me be gentle with you
When I first saw your gallery
I liked the ones of ladies
But now their faces follow me
And all their eyes look shady
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Post by jcas on Apr 4, 2022 5:00:49 GMT -5
So, now we're able to add another Joni Mitchell song to Jackie's coming album, as of this morning. This one: Rainy Night House. Here's the lyrics and Joni's live performance of it in London in 1974. It was on her 1970 album, Ladies of the Canyon. According to critics of the time, it was another song inspired by her fling with Leonard Cohen. The lyrics, which was always Mitchell's forte, are esoteric and just plain out-there, to me. I have no idea what they mean or interest in knowing. Yet, it was one of her fans very favorites. The melody is compelling on her album version. This concert rendition and Mitchell's belting of it is completely different. Jackie's cover is blandly somewhere in between, but to me, not at all interesting. Which leads me to ask, ...... why in the world would she find it so or think her base fans or potential fans would?
It was a rainy night We took a taxi to your mother's home She went to Florida and left you With your father's gun, alone Upon her small white bed I fell into a dream You sat up all the night and watched me To see, who in the world I might be
I am from the Sunday school I sing soprano in the upstairs choir You are a holy man On the F.M. radio I sat up all the night and watched thee To see, who in the world you might be
You called me beautiful You called your mother, she was very tanned So you packed your tent and you went To live out in the Arizona sand You are a refugee From a wealthy family You gave up all the golden factories To see, who in the world you might be
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 11:52:23 GMT -5
So, now we're able to add another Joni Mitchell song to Jackie's coming album, as of this morning. This one: Rainy Night House. Here's the lyrics and Joni's live performance of it in London in 1974. It was on her 1970 album, Ladies of the Canyon. According to critics of the time, it was another song inspired by her fling with Leonard Cohen. The lyrics, which was always Mitchell's forte, are esoteric and just plain out-there, to me. I have no idea what they mean or interest in knowing. Yet, it was one of her fans very favorites. The melody is compelling on her album version. This concert rendition and Mitchell's belting of it is completely different. Jackie's cover is blandly somewhere in between, but to me, not at all interesting. Which leads me to ask, ...... why in the world would she find it so or think her base fans or potential fans would? It was a rainy night We took a taxi to your mother's home She went to Florida and left you With your father's gun, alone Upon her small white bed I fell into a dream You sat up all the night and watched me To see, who in the world I might be I am from the Sunday school I sing soprano in the upstairs choir You are a holy man On the F.M. radio I sat up all the night and watched thee To see, who in the world you might be You called me beautiful You called your mother, she was very tanned So you packed your tent and you went To live out in the Arizona sand You are a refugee From a wealthy family You gave up all the golden factories To see, who in the world you might be Mabye she things that the older crowd that is her fan base will appreciate her redoing the songs of a prolific singer/songwriter from that era. As far as this video goes, I don't even particularly like this song even when Joni is singing it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 12:56:12 GMT -5
So, now we're able to add another Joni Mitchell song to Jackie's coming album, as of this morning. This one: Rainy Night House. Here's the lyrics and Joni's live performance of it in London in 1974. It was on her 1970 album, Ladies of the Canyon. According to critics of the time, it was another song inspired by her fling with Leonard Cohen. The lyrics, which was always Mitchell's forte, are esoteric and just plain out-there, to me. I have no idea what they mean or interest in knowing. Yet, it was one of her fans very favorites. The melody is compelling on her album version. This concert rendition and Mitchell's belting of it is completely different. Jackie's cover is blandly somewhere in between, but to me, not at all interesting. Which leads me to ask, ...... why in the world would she find it so or think her base fans or potential fans would? It was a rainy night We took a taxi to your mother's home She went to Florida and left you With your father's gun, alone Upon her small white bed I fell into a dream You sat up all the night and watched me To see, who in the world I might be I am from the Sunday school I sing soprano in the upstairs choir You are a holy man On the F.M. radio I sat up all the night and watched thee To see, who in the world you might be You called me beautiful You called your mother, she was very tanned So you packed your tent and you went To live out in the Arizona sand You are a refugee From a wealthy family You gave up all the golden factories To see, who in the world you might be Very nice poetic song. Jackie sings it emotionally and vocally darker than Joni. I like it.
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Post by jcas on Apr 5, 2022 9:28:22 GMT -5
Another to the list of Joni Mitchell songs Jackie includes on her new album. Blue. This is from the way-too-much-information album and its songs (e.g. Blue ) that caused me to lose interest in Mitchell until recently when Jackie sparked memories of her earliest and imho, by far her best songs, that connected with me then; that I loved then, and found I still do. Songs are like tattoos You know I've been to sea before Crown and anchor me Or let me sail away Hey Blue And there is a song for you Ink on a pin Underneath the skin An empty space to fill in Well there're so many sinking Now you've got to keep thinking You can make it thru these waves Acid, booze, and ass Needles, guns, and grass Lots of laughs Lots of laughs Everybody's saying that hell's the hippest way to go well I don't think so, but I'm Gonna take a look around it though Blue I love you Blue Here is a shell for you Inside you'll hear a sigh A foggy lullaby There is your song from me
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Post by theanastasialee on Apr 7, 2022 15:42:46 GMT -5
Another to the list of Joni Mitchell songs Jackie includes on her new album. Blue. This is from the way-too-much-information album and its songs (e.g. Blue ) that caused me to lose interest in Mitchell until recently when Jackie sparked memories of her earliest and imho, by far her best songs, that connected with me then; that I loved then, and found I still do. Songs are like tattoos You know I've been to sea before Crown and anchor me Or let me sail away Hey Blue And there is a song for you Ink on a pin Underneath the skin An empty space to fill in Well there're so many sinking Now you've got to keep thinking You can make it thru these waves Acid, booze, and ass Needles, guns, and grass Lots of laughs Lots of laughs Everybody's saying that hell's the hippest way to go well I don't think so, but I'm Gonna take a look around it though Blue I love you Blue Here is a shell for you Inside you'll hear a sigh A foggy lullaby There is your song from me I love Jackie and I love Joni. But for me, these lyrics are too much and I really don’t enjoy them. They’re not at all beautiful. Very much the opposite of Both Sides Now. — I suspect Jackie picked Joni in part to help find new fans. Pretty basic but true. Many of our CC fans are dying. I went through my friends list on Facebook last week and there was 100+ dead fans I considered my friends at one point. Joni is being honored left and right at the moment. And Joni’s fan groups on Facebook and elsewhere are extremely active. Super active. Siphon some fans from there and voila. CD sales. — At least that’s how musicians generally consider it, in part.
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Post by jcas on Apr 11, 2022 10:07:13 GMT -5
As of 2022 there have been "1512 known recordings" of Joni Mitchell's, Both Sides Now, according to the website, Joni Undercover. Imo, the attached rendition is one of the best. Who else here misses Jackie's duets? This would be a good song for one of them. I wonder if Jackie's rendition for her new album will be its 1513th "known recording".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 11:05:22 GMT -5
As of 2022 there have been "1512 known recordings" of Joni Mitchell's, Both Sides Now, according to the website, Joni Undercover. Imo, the attached rendition is one of the best. Who else here misses Jackie's duets? This would be a good song for one of them. I wonder if Jackie's rendition for her new album will be its 1513th "known recording". Good question...now that you mention it, I do miss her duets. She get back to doing those, at least occassionally.
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Post by jcas on Apr 14, 2022 5:21:00 GMT -5
This is the first professional recording of 20 year old Joan Anderson, later Joni Mitchell, singing. She accompanies herself with a baritone ukulele. Its 1963 and folk music is the thing. She was a student at an arts academy, and studying to make a career as a visual (commercial) artist which she considered her true "vocation", even when her career as a vocalist and songwriter blossomed. Singing for coffeehouse audiences then was to make a few bucks to be able to buy "cigarettes, beer and to go to the movies". For those who haven't heard this, it may be a bit shocking, as it was for me, at what an ethereally beautiful singing voice she was gifted with. Jackie was recording and making far more than money enough for cigs, with hers, at 10. For Mitchell it wouldn't be until late in her 20s and the 1970s that she achieved similar success with her first million-selling album, Blue. But compared to Jackie, she had to travel an excruciatingly tough road to get there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2022 12:06:39 GMT -5
This is the first professional recording of 20 year old Joan Anderson, later Joni Mitchell, singing. She accompanies herself with a baritone ukulele. Its 1963 and folk music is the thing. She was a student at an arts academy, and studying to make a career as a visual (commercial) artist which she considered her true "vocation", even when her career as a vocalist and songwriter blossomed. Singing for coffeehouse audiences then was to make a few bucks to be able to buy "cigarettes, beer and to go to the movies". For those who haven't heard this, it may be a bit shocking, as it was for me, at what an ethereally beautiful singing voice she was gifted with. Jackie was recording and making far more than money enough for cigs, with hers, at 10. For Mitchell it wouldn't be until late in her 20s and the 1970s that she achieved similar success with her first million-selling album, Blue. But compared to Jackie, she had to travel an excruciatingly tough road to get there. Yup, thanks to AGT and social media, Jackie made it big young. Her career peaked early in life. Joni took the more typical route to fame in those days and peaked well into adulthood.
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