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Post by ursus on Dec 19, 2021 14:14:35 GMT -5
Naw, not going to happen Willy. Jackie needs more time to recuperate and needs new material to draw people in. I think people are becoming bored with the same old regurgitated songs, time for something fresh. I think that's true to a degree, but like many well known artists, folks want to here Jackie's "golden oldies" from the Dream with Me era. New material, especially if it is well received by fans and critics alike would get some buz going and could increase her live crowds. Personally, I love hearing some of the same old songs in concert, Jackie always seems to improve/change/re-interrupt Lovers, The Prayer, Nessun Dorma, etc. and for long term fans, that's what we want. Even some first time concert goers want to hear those YouTube classics live, nothing like it. COVID really put a damper on the Masked Singer Kitty momentum and we can only speculate what could have happen were it not for the pandemic. The delay in her latest album, the car accident and Jackie's struggles with Body Dysmorphia in addition to Mike and Lisa's divorce have all piled up her over the past two years. I think anyone would struggle, I know I would. I would also, but there are people who immerse themselves in work when there are other problems in their lives.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 14:33:23 GMT -5
Naw, not going to happen Willy. Jackie needs more time to recuperate and needs new material to draw people in. I think people are becoming bored with the same old regurgitated songs, time for something fresh. I think that's true to a degree, but like many well known artists, folks want to here Jackie's "golden oldies" from the Dream with Me era. New material, especially if it is well received by fans and critics alike would get some buz going and could increase her live crowds. Personally, I love hearing some of the same old songs in concert, Jackie always seems to improve/change/re-interrupt Lovers, The Prayer, Nessun Dorma, etc. and for long term fans, that's what we want. Even some first time concert goers want to hear those YouTube classics live, nothing like it. COVID really put a damper on the Masked Singer Kitty momentum and we can only speculate what could have happen were it not for the pandemic. The delay in her latest album, the car accident and Jackie's struggles with Body Dysmorphia in addition to Mike and Lisa's divorce have all piled up her over the past two years. I think anyone would struggle, I know I would. Oh, I strongly disagree that it was covid that "put a damper on Kitty's momentum". If anything, due to lock downs, more people watched the show than usual. I think most didnt recognize her when she unmasked, and most forgot about her very quickly after her face was only on tv for about five minutes at the end. People who watched it remember Kitty, they don't remember the girl in the costume. Not a good show to give you momentum since you are in disguise for 99% of your air time.
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Post by rick158 on Dec 20, 2021 18:25:13 GMT -5
I think that's true to a degree, but like many well known artists, folks want to here Jackie's "golden oldies" from the Dream with Me era. New material, especially if it is well received by fans and critics alike would get some buz going and could increase her live crowds. Personally, I love hearing some of the same old songs in concert, Jackie always seems to improve/change/re-interrupt Lovers, The Prayer, Nessun Dorma, etc. and for long term fans, that's what we want. Even some first time concert goers want to hear those YouTube classics live, nothing like it. COVID really put a damper on the Masked Singer Kitty momentum and we can only speculate what could have happen were it not for the pandemic. The delay in her latest album, the car accident and Jackie's struggles with Body Dysmorphia in addition to Mike and Lisa's divorce have all piled up her over the past two years. I think anyone would struggle, I know I would. Oh, I strongly disagree that it was covid that "put a damper on Kitty's momentum". If anything, due to lock downs, more people watched the show than usual. I think most didnt recognize her when she unmasked, and most forgot about her very quickly after her face was only on tv for about five minutes at the end. People who watched it remember Kitty, they don't remember the girl in the costume. Not a good show to give you momentum since you are in disguise for 99% of your air time. I guess I wasn't specific on what was being dampened. I agree with you that her exposure on the Masked Singer was viewed by thousands, tens of thousands or even more people during the lockdown than may have otherwise, but Jackie's inability to capitalize on that exposure with cancelled or postponed then cancelled concerts, delayed new album, loss of TV, radio and print media dampened what might have been some significant free media to expand her fan base and the buying public for her product. We will never know.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 20:23:57 GMT -5
Oh, I strongly disagree that it was covid that "put a damper on Kitty's momentum". If anything, due to lock downs, more people watched the show than usual. I think most didnt recognize her when she unmasked, and most forgot about her very quickly after her face was only on tv for about five minutes at the end. People who watched it remember Kitty, they don't remember the girl in the costume. Not a good show to give you momentum since you are in disguise for 99% of your air time. I guess I wasn't specific on what was being dampened. I agree with you that her exposure on the Masked Singer was viewed by thousands, tens of thousands or even more people during the lockdown than may have otherwise, but Jackie's inability to capitalize on that exposure with cancelled or postponed then cancelled concerts, delayed new album, loss of TV, radio and print media dampened what might have been some significant free media to expand her fan base and the buying public for her product. We will never know. True that we'll never know. But I contend that because her face and name were only shown for a few minutes at the very end of the show, this show was a poor vehicle to try and expand her fan base. 99% of her air time she was Kitty, and that's how most who weren't already familiar with her will remember her, even days after the show ended, as Kitty. It's hard to use a show to expand your fan base when you spent all your time performing anonymously in a costume. Still, you have a vaild point that she might have gained some benefit, at least in the short term. If nothing else more interviews about her appearance as Kitty.
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Post by bgstar on Dec 20, 2021 22:30:14 GMT -5
I guess I wasn't specific on what was being dampened. I agree with you that her exposure on the Masked Singer was viewed by thousands, tens of thousands or even more people during the lockdown than may have otherwise, but Jackie's inability to capitalize on that exposure with cancelled or postponed then cancelled concerts, delayed new album, loss of TV, radio and print media dampened what might have been some significant free media to expand her fan base and the buying public for her product. We will never know. True that we'll never know. But I contend that because her face and name were only shown for a few minutes at the very end of the show, this show was a poor vehicle to try and expand her fan base. 99% of her air time she was Kitty, and that's how most who weren't already familiar with her will remember her, even days after the show ended, as Kitty. It's hard to use a show to expand your fan base when you spent all your time performing anonymously in a costume. Still, you have a vaild point that she might have gained some benefit, at least in the short term. If nothing else more interviews about her appearance as Kitty. True, her stint as Kitty did put her in the spotlight for a moment in time. It made some people literally look her up and view her videos, some for the first time. If I recall, I believe I read a few comments that sounded like "Wow, that's Kitty when she was a kitten!"
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Dec 21, 2021 2:44:31 GMT -5
True that we'll never know. But I contend that because her face and name were only shown for a few minutes at the very end of the show, this show was a poor vehicle to try and expand her fan base. 99% of her air time she was Kitty, and that's how most who weren't already familiar with her will remember her, even days after the show ended, as Kitty. It's hard to use a show to expand your fan base when you spent all your time performing anonymously in a costume. Still, you have a vaild point that she might have gained some benefit, at least in the short term. If nothing else more interviews about her appearance as Kitty. True, her stint as Kitty did put her in the spotlight for a moment in time. It made some people literally look her up and view her videos, some for the first time. If I recall, I believe I read a few comments that sounded like "Wow, that's Kitty when she was a kitten!" I agree with all, what you wrote. But I guess, for Jackie herself it was very good experience. She could sing any genre of music and she showed, that she can do it (what we all knew already) and the audience liked it. May be, the benefit out of TMS was, that she know now, that she could sing anything she wants and she saw, that the people liked it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2021 10:34:20 GMT -5
True, her stint as Kitty did put her in the spotlight for a moment in time. It made some people literally look her up and view her videos, some for the first time. If I recall, I believe I read a few comments that sounded like "Wow, that's Kitty when she was a kitten!" I agree with all, what you wrote. But I guess, for Jackie herself it was very good experience. She could sing any genre of music and she showed, that she can do it (what we all knew already) and the audience liked it. May be, the benefit out of TMS was, that she know now, that she could sing anything she wants and she saw, that the people liked it. For sure, it was a great experience for her and due to the massive exposure it would give her singing, she had to go for it.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Dec 21, 2021 14:27:54 GMT -5
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Dec 21, 2021 14:47:19 GMT -5
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Post by bgstar on Dec 22, 2021 23:07:10 GMT -5
Your comments about Jackie being thinner and she skinny are not being helpful to her recovery. Your comments on this issue are misplaced. I would agree with you if this was posted on her social media or in a place where we know she reads. She definitely doesn't read these boards, and concerned Jackie fans are going to be watching and discussing how healthy she looks A LOT! Stop tryng to sweep the issue under the rug and pretend like it doesn't exist. That's not going to happen. I would agree that nobody should talk about her weight anywhere where Jackie frequents...absolutely not! As a fan I don't really have any answers - please see the following video. There are a few parallels and some similarities between Jackie and Karen, those that are, may surprise you. The main difference is Jackie knows what is happening and she is fighting, whereas Karen denied it until it was too late. The main thing they had in common is something that Petula Clark said which can also be applied to Jackie, she is a "unique gift from God". All fans can do is try to assure her she is loved and wish her well. Regretfully, fans are selfish by nature and want her music to go on forever. They forget what it might do to her to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2021 23:40:36 GMT -5
Your comments on this issue are misplaced. I would agree with you if this was posted on her social media or in a place where we know she reads. She definitely doesn't read these boards, and concerned Jackie fans are going to be watching and discussing how healthy she looks A LOT! Stop tryng to sweep the issue under the rug and pretend like it doesn't exist. That's not going to happen. I would agree that nobody should talk about her weight anywhere where Jackie frequents...absolutely not! As a fan I don't really have any answers - please see the following video. There are a few parallels and some similarities between Jackie and Karen, those that are, may surprise you. The main difference is Jackie knows what is happening and she is fighting, whereas Karen denied it until it was too late. The main thing they had in common is something that Petula Clark said which can also be applied to Jackie, she is a "unique gift from God". All fans can do is try to assure her she is loved and wish her well. Regretfully, fans are selfish by nature and want her music to go on forever. They forget what it might do to her to do so. Yeah, I've already thought of that correlation, especially considering Jackie has sung a couple of her songs and has mentioned as recently as a few days ago in an interview how much she likes her. Two of the purest voices I've ever heard. I always tell people the only other voice I can think of that is close to a pure tone as Jackie is Karen Carpenter. Weird how Jackie likes her so much and has the same condition as her. Like you said, good news is she is aware of it and is getting treatment for it. Bad news is, it can be a lifetime battle. I agree...show the girl love and support. Let her know we have her back, don't judge her, and that while we recognize the struggle isn't easy, we believe in her. I just really, really hope some jackass doesnt make some comment to her on her weight on her social media.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Dec 23, 2021 3:09:31 GMT -5
As a fan I don't really have any answers - please see the following video. There are a few parallels and some similarities between Jackie and Karen, those that are, may surprise you. The main difference is Jackie knows what is happening and she is fighting, whereas Karen denied it until it was too late. The main thing they had in common is something that Petula Clark said which can also be applied to Jackie, she is a "unique gift from God". All fans can do is try to assure her she is loved and wish her well. Regretfully, fans are selfish by nature and want her music to go on forever. They forget what it might do to her to do so. Yeah, I've already thought of that correlation, especially considering Jackie has sung a couple of her songs and has mentioned as recently as a few days ago in an interview how much she likes her. Two of the purest voices I've ever heard. I always tell people the only other voice I can think of that is close to a pure tone as Jackie is Karen Carpenter. Weird how Jackie likes her so much and has the same condition as her. Like you said, good news is she is aware of it and is getting treatment for it. Bad news is, it can be a lifetime battle. I agree...show the girl love and support. Let her know we have her back, don't judge her, and that while we recognize the struggle isn't easy, we believe in her. I just really, really hope some jackass doesnt make some comment to her on her weight on her social media. I 100% agree!
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Dec 25, 2021 14:32:08 GMT -5
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Post by lawrence on Nov 20, 2022 11:50:47 GMT -5
Delightful response from Jackie when it snowed on stage for her encore:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2022 13:58:52 GMT -5
Delightful response from Jackie when it snowed on stage for her encore: The little girl Jackie who we all love came out a little there, didn't she? Funny that nobody told her it was going to happen...the result was awesome.
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