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Post by yellowstone2014 on Apr 18, 2021 16:23:37 GMT -5
I still suppose, that Jackie is not able to connect via social media, for what reason ever. I mean, Jackie is a smart person. She knows, that it is not the fine way to abort communication, not to say "Good By" if she really took a time out. She knows, that she will loose fans, if she acts like this, especially if she want to stay in show buisness. I still believe, that something dramatically happened, physically or psychological. I guess, that there will be another couple of month, where we wont hear from Jackie. I only hope, she is well and safe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 18:48:59 GMT -5
I still suppose, that Jackie is not able to connect via social media, for what reason ever. I mean, Jackie is a smart person. She knows, that it is not the fine way to abort communication, not to say "Good By" if she really took a time out. She knows, that she will loose fans, if she acts like this, especially if she want to stay in show buisness. I still believe, that something dramatically happened, physically or psychological. I guess, that there will be another couple of month, where we wont hear from Jackie. I only hope, she is well and safe. The whole thing is just bizarre.
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Post by oatmealforme on Apr 18, 2021 19:59:32 GMT -5
Perhaps, I missed the post or posts, but it seems that everyone is avoiding the mention of another obvious conjecture. And without an explanation of her absence, that is all we have, namely conjecture. Her absence started abruptly in November, and I notice that some posters are assuming that it is meant to be an affront to her fans. We see repeatedly that child stars have trouble when they grow up. Jackie has been supporting her family since she turned 10 or 11. Her parents have split up and are going on with their own lives, and she is left without a chance to perform. While physical illness is a possibility, I would think that is something that could be easily reported. Also, notice that Mike has posted pictures of Jackie’s pets; surely, Jackie could have been included in those picture. Where is she? I thought and still think that Jackie because of all of these events in her life has undergone a crisis, the nature of which we obviously don’t know. Her absence is not meant to be an affront to her fans. Yes, I am concerned with here well-being.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 20:05:50 GMT -5
Perhaps, I missed the post or posts, but it seems that everyone is avoiding the mention of another obvious conjecture. And without an explanation of her absence, that is all we have, namely conjecture. Her absence started abruptly in November, and I notice that some posters are assuming that it is meant to be an affront to her fans. We see repeatedly that child stars have trouble when they grow up. Jackie has been supporting her family since she turned 10 or 11. Her parents have split up and are going on with their own lives, and she is left without a chance to perform. While physical illness is a possibility, I would think that is something that could be easily reported. Also, notice that Mike has posted pictures of Jackie’s pets; surely, Jackie could have been included in those picture. Where is she? I thought and still think that Jackie because of all of these events in her life has undergone a crisis, the nature of which we obviously don’t know. Her absence is not meant to be an affront to her fans. Yes, I am concerned with here well-being. Yeah, I was always worried about the "child star losing it after she grew up and the fame faded" syndrome with Jackie, but I always thought that she was so well behaved and grounded, and seemed to have great parents, so I figured if anyone could avoid it, she could. Later on of course I realized her parents and that family can be a three ring circus at times, and also had the concern of the unhealthy nature of the entire family being supported by a child and the pressures and unfairness of that. I've heard Lisa refer to Jackie as the "golden goose"...I never liked that at all.
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Post by Willyiam on Apr 19, 2021 5:42:26 GMT -5
Perhaps, I missed the post or posts, but it seems that everyone is avoiding the mention of another obvious conjecture. And without an explanation of her absence, that is all we have, namely conjecture. Her absence started abruptly in November, and I notice that some posters are assuming that it is meant to be an affront to her fans. We see repeatedly that child stars have trouble when they grow up. Jackie has been supporting her family since she turned 10 or 11. Her parents have split up and are going on with their own lives, and she is left without a chance to perform. While physical illness is a possibility, I would think that is something that could be easily reported. Also, notice that Mike has posted pictures of Jackie’s pets; surely, Jackie could have been included in those picture. Where is she? I thought and still think that Jackie because of all of these events in her life has undergone a crisis, the nature of which we obviously don’t know. Her absence is not meant to be an affront to her fans. Yes, I am concerned with here well-being. Yeah, I was always worried about the "child star losing it after she grew up and the fame faded" syndrome with Jackie, but I always thought that she was so well behaved and grounded, and seemed to have great parents, so I figured if anyone could avoid it, she could. Later on of course I realized her parents and that family can be a three ring circus at times, and also had the concern of the unhealthy nature of the entire family being supported by a child and the pressures and unfairness of that. I've heard Lisa refer to Jackie as the "golden goose"...I never liked that at all. We can conjecture til the cows come home, but we will eventually know the answer! One thing that bothers me though, is the lack of fan sightings!! Everyone on this forum knows where she lives and I don't think it's a guarded, gated community. Why no posts of Jackie sightings! Why no posts on other Social Media sites questioning Jackie's disappearance?
The house is now under contract and in a few months, unless the truth is known, we'll have no idea where she is!
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Post by jcas on Apr 19, 2021 6:23:55 GMT -5
More conjecture, but my impression from the Zillow virtual tour of the Evancho's Gibsonia house is that its interior appears well "staged" for the listing of a million dollar property, but empty of residents other than some furniture .... and has been probably for some time. Whatever's happened to not only Jackie, but her entire family, with the exception a few Instagram postings by Juliet of herself as usual, and Mike sans humans in them, is being kept extremely "close to the vest". Seems everyone in the immediate and extended family; friends, acquaintances, neighbors, strangers that might recognize them at Starbucks, business associates, Rachel's schoolmates etc. etc. etc. are gagged as to the whereabouts and condition of any one of the Evanchos who resided in Gibsonia, PA and may still as far as us faithful fans know .... or not. Bizarrely amazing.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Apr 19, 2021 6:39:01 GMT -5
The house is now under contract and in a few months, unless the truth is known, we'll have no idea where she is!
... we already don't know it now, where Jackie is ...
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Post by Willyiam on Apr 19, 2021 9:00:26 GMT -5
No matter what happens, we'll always have this!!
"Jackie Evancho: Tiny Desk Concert, May 23, 2011"
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Post by jcas on Apr 19, 2021 12:45:07 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of opera. But if female opera singers sang its arias like Jackie, I would have been.
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Post by nipper on Apr 21, 2021 6:36:20 GMT -5
Jackie isn't the only one who has gone silent with social media. The young pop star Lorde has also left social media and according to the article below it has hurt her career. We still haven't a clue on why Jackie has gone silent but if leaving social has hurt a very popular singer such as Lorde, one has to wonder what effect it will have on Jackie's career. Lorde is well known, her video's have hundred's of millions of view's while Jackie is still struggling to gain a wider listening audience. www.thethings.com/this-is-why-you-no-longer-hear-about-lorde-anymore/
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Post by rlhamil on Apr 21, 2021 7:32:03 GMT -5
More conjecture, but my impression from the Zillow virtual tour of the Evancho's Gibsonia house is that its interior appears well "staged" for the listing of a million dollar property, but empty of residents other than some furniture .... and has been probably for some time. Whatever's happened to not only Jackie, but her entire family, with the exception a few Instagram postings by Juliet of herself as usual, and Mike sans humans in them, is being kept extremely "close to the vest". Seems everyone in the immediate and extended family; friends, acquaintances, neighbors, strangers that might recognize them at Starbucks, business associates, Rachel's schoolmates etc. etc. etc. are gagged as to the whereabouts and condition of any one of the Evanchos who resided in Gibsonia, PA and may still as far as us faithful fans know .... or not. Bizarrely amazing. I don't think any of us live in that area, or attend that high school; and it's not like we have a lot of secret agents there either. So the lack of reported sightings doesn't mean much, IMO. Just about anyone that's not incredibly unusual size or height can go unnoticed if they know how.
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Post by jcas on Jun 2, 2021 8:45:55 GMT -5
Years ago I partnered with a scratch golfer in league play who had never taken a golf lesson or consulted a pro in his life. He was good enough to enter pro tournaments as an amateur. But he got greedy and violated one of life's cardinal rules. That is: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". He spent a lot of money on a week at a highfalutin golf clinic and camp in Pennsylvania; I believe one of Arnie Palmer's. When he returned to real life and the golf courses in Michigan he normally played on, his game and his amazing and natural talent for it had been ruined. What he learned at that clinic was to try to control by thinking way too much about what had always just come naturally to him. One of the truly amazing things to me about Jackie was that she became one of music's best and truly greatest singers of all time over the past 11 years by just doing what came naturally to her. I am hoping that whatever phase of her career appears after this hiatus is not the product of having tried to "fix what ain't broke.".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 11:15:57 GMT -5
Years ago I partnered with a scratch golfer in league play who had never taken a golf lesson or consulted a pro in his life. He was good enough to enter pro tournaments as an amateur. But he got greedy and violated one of life's cardinal rules. That is: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". He spent a lot of money on a week at a highfalutin golf clinic and camp in Pennsylvania; I believe one of Arnie Palmer's. When he returned to real life and the golf courses in Michigan he normally played on, his game and his amazing and natural talent for it had been ruined. What he learned at that clinic was to try to control by thinking way too much about what had always just come naturally to him. One of the truly amazing things to me about Jackie was that she became one of music's best and truly greatest singers of all time over the past 11 years by just doing what came naturally to her. I am hoping that whatever phase of her career appears after this hiatus is not the product of having tried to "fix what ain't broke.". Except that's not what happened. She had a great deal of early success in the few years following AGT, but in recent years, as her older fan base dies off, her career is in the dumps. Poor albums sales, dwindling audiences and failed, desperate attempts to gain new audiences in other genres are the name of the game for Jackie now. EVERYTHING about her career is "broke", so to say "why fix what's not broke" is ludicrous. Jackie has a beautiful voice, but she has NOT become one of music's best and truly greatest singers of all time in recent years. She has become almost unknown, obsolete, and irrelevant in the world of music, and she knows it. You live in a complete fantasy world...so much so that it's scary.
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Post by jcas on Jun 3, 2021 5:23:23 GMT -5
What I was referring to was the way she's used her voice from the time she cut and released her debut album, Prelude To A Dream in 2009, to her album Debut 10 years later. In some of her last, pre-hiatus interviews she said she'd learned to "belt" while doing that last album and that was the way she wanted to go. Also, with that album, she said she became independent of others choosing what and how she "should" sing. If I was close to Jackie and a trusted advisor, I would tell her to "unlearn" it and stick with the musical style that gave her the ability to build a million dollar house for her and her family when she was only 12 years old. Successful businesses most often falter and fail because they loose connection with why and how they became successful in the first place. i.e. with their roots; their raison d'etre. Jackie's career is far from "broke" as the resident "ass" here so hopefully describes. She needs to do a few things to keep it from breaking. First, fire the publicist that persists to this day in promoting her as the "world's youngest opera singer". She's never performed in an opera let alone a school musical. Probably 1% of the music market listens to opera and even less have ever bought a ticket for one. She doesn't have an operatic voice and has only sung 3 arias out of the more than 100 songs she's performed. Continuing to promote her that way is a total turnoff to the younger audience she wants to attract to her music and concert performances. Two. Hire a manager/agent that is fiercely aggressive, well connected and has some imagination. There are literally hundreds of venues in this Country she's never even come close to performing in. Chicago for one huge one; Kansas City; St. Louis; Minneapolis; Grand Rapids, MI (1 million metro market) ... one of the most culturally sophisticated Great Lakes cities with its own opera and ballet companies; one of the best symphony orchestras in the Country; DeVos Hall which is rated one of the best venues acoustically in the Country etc. etc. etc.. The "ass" cites "album sales" as one of the criteria for determining that her career is "broke". I don't know where this guy's been for the last 10 years, (no where near the music business apparently) but since the MediaHuman program was invented that long ago, any one, from any where can download music or a music video from YouTube for free with it, among others like it. That toothpaste squirted from its tube long ago. Album sales for all performers in any genre tanked with the ready availability of those type of "free" programs. The market for good, classic, timelessly beautiful music and those, like Jackie, who are inimitably gifted to perform it is huge and available to those performers who have the mettle, smarts, connections and native talent to penetrate it and perpetuate a career in it. I listen to her Mi Mancherai from 10 years ago and I'm Not That Girl 10 years later, and I hear no difference in her ability to use her equisite gift to interpret a song like only a select few others are able. She is without question one of the world's great singers and will continue to be if uses her new found ability to "belt" sparingly; very selectively; wisely.
The draconian lockdown, panicked and politically driven policies imposed world wide stopped her and every performer in every genre in their tracks from performing concerts ... which is how they make their living these days and pay their bills. If you've attended a Jackie concert, you know she is among the very best stage performers in her business; which is where she needs to be to keep from going "broke" or becoming broken.
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Post by ursus on Jun 3, 2021 10:15:34 GMT -5
Two. Hire a manager/agent that is fiercely aggressive, well connected and has some imagination. There are literally hundreds of venues in this Country she's never even come close to performing in. Chicago for one huge one; Kansas City; St. Louis; Minneapolis; Grand Rapids, MI (1 million metro market) ... one of the most culturally sophisticated Great Lakes cities with its own opera and ballet companies; one of the best symphony orchestras in the Country; DeVos Hall which is rated one of the best venues acoustically in the Country etc. etc. etc.. How do you listen to any music, let alone Jackie, with those rapids whooshing by? I do agree with your post.
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