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Post by rickolsen on Oct 14, 2018 14:36:08 GMT -5
I don't mean to throw mud on anyone's parade, but I don't understand the point of this. I can understand why Bianca Ryan is doing it. She was the season one winner, but has had no career since. Jackie is a professional multi- plantinum selling recording artist who has a successful concert career and has done many wonderful things since AGT. What if she is beaten by a barely remembered forth place finisher? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it helps her career at all. I think it makes her look bad. Just my opinion. Probably Lisa's bright idea.
BTW/ I think it's telling that the most successful act by far to come out of AGT, Terry Fator, isn't participating.
I predict Susan Boyle wins. She has been Simon's most successful act.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 15:03:51 GMT -5
I don't mean to throw mud on anyone's parade, but I don't understand the point of this. I can understand why Bianca Ryan is doing it. She was the season one winner, but has had no career since. Jackie is a professional multi- plantinum selling recording artist who has a successful concert career and has done many wonderful things since AGT. What if she is beaten by a barely remembered forth place finisher? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it helps her career at all. I think it makes her look bad. Just my opinion. Probably Lisa's bright idea.
BTW/ I think it's telling that the most successful act by far to come out of AGT, Terry Fator, isn't participating.
I predict Susan Boyle wins. She has been Simon's most successful act. Didn't mean to throw mud, but just had to throw some on Jackie's mother, anyway. Never miss an opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 15:12:13 GMT -5
I don't mean to throw mud on anyone's parade, but I don't understand the point of this. I can understand why Bianca Ryan is doing it. She was the season one winner, but has had no career since. Jackie is a professional multi- plantinum selling recording artist who has a successful concert career and has done many wonderful things since AGT. What if she is beaten by a barely remembered forth place finisher? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it helps her career at all. I think it makes her look bad. Just my opinion. Probably Lisa's bright idea.
BTW/ I think it's telling that the most successful act by far to come out of AGT, Terry Fator, isn't participating.
I predict Susan Boyle wins. She has been Simon's most successful act. I never heard of most of the competitors, but of those competing he probably earned the most $$$ from her, but he might prefer the biggest current money maker to win. That could be Darci. The Texas Tenors do a lot of touring also. A friend of mine saw Paul Potts about a year ago and said that he improved by leaps and bounds and is very polished, and he did a lot of touring, but Cowell didn't get a cut from those tours and only earned from his first album. I don't know at what point Cowell stopped earning from Jackie's concerts.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 14, 2018 15:21:42 GMT -5
I don't mean to throw mud on anyone's parade, but I don't understand the point of this. I can understand why Bianca Ryan is doing it. She was the season one winner, but has had no career since. Jackie is a professional multi- plantinum selling recording artist who has a successful concert career and has done many wonderful things since AGT. What if she is beaten by a barely remembered forth place finisher? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it helps her career at all. I think it makes her look bad. Just my opinion. Probably Lisa's bright idea.
BTW/ I think it's telling that the most successful act by far to come out of AGT, Terry Fator, isn't participating.
I predict Susan Boyle wins. She has been Simon's most successful act. Didn't meant to throw mud, but just had to throw some on Jackie's mother, anyway. Never miss an opportunity. Stop being a hypocrite Larry, you threw Jackie under the bus in the shout box putting 100% of the blame on her for the downfall of her career, at least Rick is smart enough to spread some of the blame around where it belongs, on her management team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 16:07:08 GMT -5
Didn't meant to throw mud, but just had to throw some on Jackie's mother, anyway. Never miss an opportunity. Stop being a hypocrite Larry, you threw Jackie under the bus in the shout box putting 100% of the blame on her for the downfall of her career, at least Rick is smart enough to spread some of the blame around where it belongs, on her management team. Her management team which includes her parents of course. Sometimes I think these parents get way too much involved with managing their showbiz kids careers.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Oct 14, 2018 16:45:27 GMT -5
I don't mean to throw mud on anyone's parade, but I don't understand the point of this. I can understand why Bianca Ryan is doing it. She was the season one winner, but has had no career since. Jackie is a professional multi- plantinum selling recording artist who has a successful concert career and has done many wonderful things since AGT. What if she is beaten by a barely remembered forth place finisher? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it helps her career at all. I think it makes her look bad. Just my opinion. Probably Lisa's bright idea.
BTW/ I think it's telling that the most successful act by far to come out of AGT, Terry Fator, isn't participating.
I predict Susan Boyle wins. She has been Simon's most successful act. I never heard of most of the competitors, but of those competing he probably earned the most $$$ from her, but he might prefer the biggest current money maker to win. That could be Darci. The Texas Tenors do a lot of touring also. A friend of mine saw Paul Potts about a year ago and said that he improved by leaps and bounds and is very polished, and he did a lot of touring, but Cowell didn't get a cut from those tours and only earned from his first album. I don't know at what point Cowell stopped earning from Jackie's concerts. I believe Sony dropped Jackie from Syco/ Columbia in 2012 or 2013 because of disappointing sales... She was offered the more classically/oriented Masterworks by Sony and, when David Foster (then working for Warners) passed, the Evanchos took it. This information was from Lisa at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 17:10:56 GMT -5
Didn't meant to throw mud, but just had to throw some on Jackie's mother, anyway. Never miss an opportunity. Stop being a hypocrite Larry, you threw Jackie under the bus in the shout box putting 100% of the blame on her for the downfall of her career, at least Rick is smart enough to spread some of the blame around where it belongs, on her management team. You're twisting a statement to suit your means, johnny. You asked, "Who is to blame for a team's poor performance?". I replied that "Jackie is responsible for her career. Blame her for not performing to your expectation". You're the one who has to "blame" someone for Jackie's "downfall". Don't put those words in my mouth supposedly quoting me. I didn't blame her for anything, just presented the facts of management. All this blaming belongs to you and rickolsen, not me.
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Post by bastet on Oct 14, 2018 18:08:21 GMT -5
It appears that Jackie isn't missing any meals. She probably wants to participate so that she can make fun of Howie Mandel, who she has joked with in the past.
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Post by agog on Oct 14, 2018 19:30:09 GMT -5
Stop being a hypocrite Larry, you threw Jackie under the bus in the shout box putting 100% of the blame on her for the downfall of her career, at least Rick is smart enough to spread some of the blame around where it belongs, on her management team. If any member here knows anything about Lawrence it's that he's very loyal to JME. He didn't in any way "throw Jackie under the bus." If any member here knows anything about you johnnyb it's that you love to interject contentiously in discussions. This site is getting quite argumentative. Might be time for some moderation.
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Post by agog on Oct 14, 2018 19:35:12 GMT -5
I don't mean to throw mud on anyone's parade, but I don't understand the point of this. I can understand why Bianca Ryan is doing it. She was the season one winner, but has had no career since. Jackie is a professional multi- plantinum selling recording artist who has a successful concert career and has done many wonderful things since AGT. What if she is beaten by a barely remembered forth place finisher? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it helps her career at all. I think it makes her look bad. Just my opinion. Probably Lisa's bright idea.
BTW/ I think it's telling that the most successful act by far to come out of AGT, Terry Fator, isn't participating.
I predict Susan Boyle wins. She has been Simon's most successful act. I'm not clear on whether Jackie is a guest performer or a contestant. I agree with Rick that Jackie faces more downside than upside possibilities as a contestant.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 14, 2018 19:40:55 GMT -5
Stop being a hypocrite Larry, you threw Jackie under the bus in the shout box putting 100% of the blame on her for the downfall of her career, at least Rick is smart enough to spread some of the blame around where it belongs, on her management team. If any member here knows anything about Lawrence it's that he's very loyal to JME. He didn't in any way "throw Jackie under the bus." If any member here knows anything about you johnnyb it's that you love to interject contentiously in discussions. This site is getting quite argumentative. Might be time for some moderation. If any member here knows anything about you agog it's that you love to interject contentiously in discussions. Scroll on by if you don't like what is being discussed.
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Post by rickolsen on Oct 15, 2018 0:24:37 GMT -5
I don't mean to throw mud on anyone's parade, but I don't understand the point of this. I can understand why Bianca Ryan is doing it. She was the season one winner, but has had no career since. Jackie is a professional multi- plantinum selling recording artist who has a successful concert career and has done many wonderful things since AGT. What if she is beaten by a barely remembered forth place finisher? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it helps her career at all. I think it makes her look bad. Just my opinion. Probably Lisa's bright idea.
BTW/ I think it's telling that the most successful act by far to come out of AGT, Terry Fator, isn't participating.
I predict Susan Boyle wins. She has been Simon's most successful act. Didn't mean to throw mud, but just had to throw some on Jackie's mother, anyway. Never miss an opportunity. Lawrence, neither Lisa nor Mike are the sharpest knives in the drawer. They just throw Jackie against the wall and see what sticks. Jackie is currently working part time on a new album that might sell 10,000 copies, less if it's digital only. That's a great career move. Jackie hasn't figured out yet that her fans don't want new, they don't want surprises, they want DWM. The farther away from DWM she gets the less she sells.
When Jackie made the transgender music video (All Of The Stars) she lost a lot of fans. That had Lisa written all over it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 1:30:48 GMT -5
Didn't mean to throw mud, but just had to throw some on Jackie's mother, anyway. Never miss an opportunity. Lawrence, neither Lisa nor Mike are the sharpest knives in the drawer. They just throw Jackie against the wall and see what sticks. Jackie is currently working part time on a new album that might sell 10,000 copies, less if it's digital only. That's a great career move. Jackie hasn't figured out yet that her fans don't want new, they don't want surprises, they want DWM. The farther away from DWM she gets the less she sells.
When Jackie made the transgender music video (All Of The Stars) she lost a lot of fans. That had Lisa written all over it.
I'll refrain from iterating what I think of your attitude, except to say you don't represent Jackie with your crude, demeaning remarks toward her loved ones. Rather, it's an insult to her when you disrespect them. Moreover, you belittle her as something "thrown against the wall to see what sticks". The only thing you represent is your own self-interest. And, it doesn't impress me in the least. DISPARAGE (Cambridge English Dictionary) verb [ T ] US /dɪˈspær·ɪdʒ/ to criticize someone or something in a way that shows a lack of respect: He disparages his business competitors, saying they are all a bunch of amateurs compared to him.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Oct 15, 2018 8:50:53 GMT -5
I don't mean to throw mud on anyone's parade, but I don't understand the point of this. I can understand why Bianca Ryan is doing it. She was the season one winner, but has had no career since. Jackie is a professional multi- plantinum selling recording artist who has a successful concert career and has done many wonderful things since AGT. What if she is beaten by a barely remembered forth place finisher? It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't see how it helps her career at all. I think it makes her look bad. Just my opinion. Probably Lisa's bright idea.
BTW/ I think it's telling that the most successful act by far to come out of AGT, Terry Fator, isn't participating.
I predict Susan Boyle wins. She has been Simon's most successful act. I'm not clear on whether Jackie is a guest performer or a contestant. I agree with Rick that Jackie faces more downside than upside possibilities as a contestant. According to a tweep, who is at these shows, Jackie did perform as a contestant. Can't vouch for that info, though. Just anonymous Twitter to me. We know Susan and Paul Potts did, so I would imagine it's not beyond the realm of possibility that Jackie did, too. Another random source says the FINALS will be Wednesday. I would think that the "guest performers" would be taped closer to January when the show airs. In any case
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2018 9:08:49 GMT -5
I don't know when Jackie did her first performance, but according to this tweet from the 13th, she made it through to the semi-finals and probably did her second performance last night.
I'm not sure how this will work but I think they'll all know on Wed. who goes through to the finals.
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