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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 20:47:27 GMT -5
agog generally speaking, i have enough trouble directing my own life, let alone, trying to guide someone elses.. so any attempt on my part, to pretend to know what is going to happen with jackie's is fraught with folly.. but, just for the sake of speculative nonsense, what if her moving to new york and julia's thought that the "betty boop" production is foster's capstone achievement are related?.. other than, his new squeeze, i can't think of a person the foz would think is better suited to play betty, than jackie.. who knows, certainly not me... WPH, the famous Betty Boop cartoon character was a little before my time, but I've heard about it. I get the impression that a musical based on it would be light hearted musical comedy with lots of singing and dancing. Perhaps, a little like the "Boyfriend" which made Julie Andrews famous on Broadway although she had been radio star in the UK since the age of 12. She was a professional who could do it all, acting, singing dancing. Foster would certainly not risk the dream of his life on an untried star to sell the show. Plus, in order to get investors interested in backing Betty Boop, he would probably prefer to have a theater "NAME" to sell it to them.
Now if you're suggesting that Jackie's in NY in some kind of stage school to acquire the skills to make it on Broadway, very possibly she might prove a quick study and find her true vocation. Hope so. I'm trying to rationalize "risk" and "untried star" with Robert Redford's taking the risk and being very grateful having done so when selecting Jackie to play a significant role in his Hollywood movie production "The Company You Keep". It seems to me that she proved very quickly to a prominent movie star and producer that she has acting ability. We also know that she is very poised live on stage when she sings and chats with the audience. It is true that she does not have the pure Broadway experience but her combination of live stage appearance and movie acting ability IMO reduces the risk to a more acceptable level. I also sense that she has a terrific memory and likely capable of memorizing script quite quickly when you consider the number of songs and different languages she knows and able to perform.
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Post by rob49 on Nov 13, 2017 21:11:16 GMT -5
WPH, the famous Betty Boop cartoon character was a little before my time, I'm trying to rationalize "risk" and "untried star" with Robert Redford's taking the risk and being very grateful having done so when selecting Jackie to play a significant role in his Hollywood movie production "The Company You Keep". It seems to me that she proved very quickly to a prominent movie star and producer that she has acting ability. We also know that she is very poised live on stage when she sings and chats with the audience. It is true that she does not have the pure Broadway experience but her combination of live stage appearance and movie acting ability IMO reduces the risk to a more acceptable level. I also sense that she has a terrific memory and likely capable of memorizing script quite quickly when you consider the number of songs and different languages she knows and able to perform.
That is very sound, and logical reasoning, based on the known facts. Unlike Julia's thoughts on her unfounded impressions.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Nov 14, 2017 3:05:58 GMT -5
I found very interesting the discussion about Jackie's future here the last days. A lot of speculation, but what happened last weekend? Nobody of us knew that she performed at Best Buddies Gala in Dallas. Probably, for Jackie it is more important to be there and help, than to have another headline in a gossip paper or 10 000 followers more on soical media. Beside her exceptional voice this is also a reason for me, to be a fan of her for my live. I'm not afraid about the future of this young lady.
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Post by richard on Nov 14, 2017 3:25:50 GMT -5
I found very interesting the discussion about Jackie's future here the last days. A lot of speculation, but what happened last weekend? Nobody of us knew that she performed at Best Buddies Gala in Dallas. Probably, for Jackie it is more important to be there and help, than to have another headline in a gossip paper or 10 000 followers more on soical media. Beside her exceptional voice this is also a reason for me, to be a fan of her for my live. I'm not afraid about the future of this young lady. Was this concert private and if not why didn't her fans know about it.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Nov 14, 2017 5:32:18 GMT -5
I found very interesting the discussion about Jackie's future here the last days. A lot of speculation, but what happened last weekend? Nobody of us knew that she performed at Best Buddies Gala in Dallas. Probably, for Jackie it is more important to be there and help, than to have another headline in a gossip paper or 10 000 followers more on soical media. Beside her exceptional voice this is also a reason for me, to be a fan of her for my live. I'm not afraid about the future of this young lady. Was this concert private and if not why didn't her fans know about it. It was private - www.bestbuddies.org/take-action/attend-an-event/... and finally take a look at the ticket prices - www.bestbuddies.org/dallasgala/guest-tickets/
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Post by trebor on Nov 14, 2017 6:57:01 GMT -5
If I knew who said it first I would add this in the Quote thread, but I will use it here...
"The reports of my death have been highly exagerated"
The whole last year has been a roller coaster for Jackie, and I hope she is just relaxing and waiting for April 9th to explode into greatness, whether it be on Broadway, Europe, Asia, Modeling, or even dabble into Country music. I feel privleged to be along for the ride wherever that road leads. No matter what, I am sure she is NOT quitting. Maybe working with DF again. Wouldn't that be a hoot!
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Post by jrchico on Nov 14, 2017 7:05:29 GMT -5
If I knew who said it first I would add this in the Quote thread, but I will use it here...
"The reports of my death have been highly exagerated"
The whole last year has been a roller coaster for Jackie, and I hope she is just relaxing and waiting for April 9th to explode into greatness, whether it be on Broadway, Europe, Asia, Modeling, or even dabble into Country music. I feel privleged to be along for the ride wherever that road leads. No matter what, I am sure she is NOT quitting. Maybe working with DF again. Wouldn't that be a hoot! Actually, as she has just had another concert scheduled for North California in June of 2018 i doubt if she is even considering quitting . As this new venue is already advertising her appearance i am thinking that this will probably be a well attended concert. I know that i will be there with my daughter and a few friends.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Nov 14, 2017 10:31:48 GMT -5
WPH, the famous Betty Boop cartoon character was a little before my time, but I've heard about it. I get the impression that a musical based on it would be light hearted musical comedy with lots of singing and dancing. Perhaps, a little like the "Boyfriend" which made Julie Andrews famous on Broadway although she had been radio star in the UK since the age of 12. She was a professional who could do it all, acting, singing dancing. Foster would certainly not risk the dream of his life on an untried star to sell the show. Plus, in order to get investors interested in backing Betty Boop, he would probably prefer to have a theater "NAME" to sell it to them.
Now if you're suggesting that Jackie's in NY in some kind of stage school to acquire the skills to make it on Broadway, very possibly she might prove a quick study and find her true vocation. Hope so. I'm trying to rationalize "risk" and "untried star" with Robert Redford's taking the risk and being very grateful having done so when selecting Jackie to play a significant role in his Hollywood movie production "The Company You Keep". It seems to me that she proved very quickly to a prominent movie star and producer that she has acting ability. We also know that she is very poised live on stage when she sings and chats with the audience. It is true that she does not have the pure Broadway experience but her combination of live stage appearance and movie acting ability IMO reduces the risk to a more acceptable level. I also sense that she has a terrific memory and likely capable of memorizing script quite quickly when you consider the number of songs and different languages she knows and able to perform.
Gordie, I would suggest that the Redford movie was a vanity project done on a minimum budget and all of the stars in it were personal friends of his who shared his far left beliefs and probably did it for scale. Certainly, Jackie did. He needed an adorable blonde little girl, preferably a non-actress who he could mold into what he wanted and he spent a lot of time with her on the (I think) 4 days her scenes were shot with how many retakes we don't know.. Shazam, suddenly AGT presented him with the perfect type and even one with some fame. All admit Jackie's taped audition was awful but Redford still believed he could work with her and did. In the event, the movie didn't do well and Jackie has not had any other film offers. I would also suggest there are no retakes on Broadway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 14:47:43 GMT -5
Julia
I understand your rebuttal and would counter that just as there are no retakes on Broadway, there are no retakes in Jackie's live concerts which she has done perhaps 100.....I don't know as I've never counted them. Can she perform live on stage......yes. Has she demonstrated that she can memorize probably as well as a Broadway actor preparing for a part......I believe learning and memorizing a song among many in a foreign language and then delivering it before a live audience demonstrates that she has some ability.
I sense that you underestimate Robert Redford's ability to assess the capabilities of Jackie and tend to belittle Jackie's part in his production which he alone funded ( from what I understand ). I purchased the movie and have watched it several times and after awhile I began to see Jackie the actress not Jackie the singer. Perhaps you might consider viewing the movie a few more times to see if you experience something similar.
I have never seen a Broadway production and it is unlikely that I will but it seems to me that one who plays a part in a Broadway production is merely combining the talent and skills of being a singer and actor. I understand that many parts of a Broadway production employ understudies ..... that might be a good place for Jackie to start and if properly prepared as for any other Broadway starlet.....I believe David ...knowing what he knows about Jackie....might consider employing Jackie.
I offer this as only my opinion.
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Post by rob49 on Nov 14, 2017 14:59:23 GMT -5
I'm trying to rationalize "risk" and "untried star" with Robert Redford's taking the risk and being very grateful having done so when selecting Jackie to play a significant role in his Hollywood movie production "The Company You Keep". It seems to me that she proved very quickly to a prominent movie star and producer that she has acting ability. We also know that she is very poised live on stage when she sings and chats with the audience. It is true that she does not have the pure Broadway experience but her combination of live stage appearance and movie acting ability IMO reduces the risk to a more acceptable level. I also sense that she has a terrific memory and likely capable of memorizing script quite quickly when you consider the number of songs and different languages she knows and able to perform.
LOL you really stretched for that spin
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 16:30:08 GMT -5
Jackie sure gets folks going in circles by doing nothing. And, they say she's "ineffective".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 18:49:17 GMT -5
Jackie sure gets folks going in circles by doing nothing. And, they say she's "ineffective". It would be a lot more positive if JE actually had some really big things going on these days.
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Post by agog on Nov 14, 2017 19:12:54 GMT -5
Jackie sure gets folks going in circles by doing nothing. And, they say she's "ineffective". It would be a lot more positive if JE actually had some really big things going on these days. Heck Jackie may or may not have something really big going on. That's one of the problems of being a Jackie fan cer. Jackie's not the type to keep us in the loop. I hope that changes but I don't see any movement in that direction. If Jackie WERE taking dance and acting classes she'd be wise to keep that private.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Nov 14, 2017 20:32:47 GMT -5
Julia I understand your rebuttal and would counter that just as there are no retakes on Broadway, there are no retakes in Jackie's live concerts which she has done perhaps 100.....I don't know as I've never counted them. Can she perform live on stage......yes. Has she demonstrated that she can memorize probably as well as a Broadway actor preparing for a part......I believe learning and memorizing a song among many in a foreign language and then delivering it before a live audience demonstrates that she has some ability. I sense that you underestimate Robert Redford's ability to assess the capabilities of Jackie and tend to belittle Jackie's part in his production which he alone funded ( from what I understand ). I purchased the movie and have watched it several times and after awhile I began to see Jackie the actress not Jackie the singer. Perhaps you might consider viewing the movie a few more times to see if you experience something similar. I have never seen a Broadway production and it is unlikely that I will but it seems to me that one who plays a part in a Broadway production is merely combining the talent and skills of being a singer and actor. I understand that many parts of a Broadway production employ understudies ..... that might be a good place for Jackie to start and if properly prepared as for any other Broadway starlet.....I believe David ...knowing what he knows about Jackie....might consider employing Jackie. I offer this as only my opinion. Couldn't agree more, Gordie. If Jackie is willing to start at the bottom with small parts, as everyone else does, and work her way up, there's every chance she might become a Broadway star. But she better start as soon as she leaves school. There are plenty of recent stage school grads, already trained in dancing and acting, crowding into auditions for new productions and spending their summers working as apprentices in summer theaters, hoping for walkons or even small speaking parts. That's the way the theater has always worked. Much like opera, which is only a more vocally demanding form of musical theater. Would Jackie be up for that?
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Post by jrchico on Nov 14, 2017 20:39:25 GMT -5
Julia I understand your rebuttal and would counter that just as there are no retakes on Broadway, there are no retakes in Jackie's live concerts which she has done perhaps 100.....I don't know as I've never counted them. Can she perform live on stage......yes. Has she demonstrated that she can memorize probably as well as a Broadway actor preparing for a part......I believe learning and memorizing a song among many in a foreign language and then delivering it before a live audience demonstrates that she has some ability. I sense that you underestimate Robert Redford's ability to assess the capabilities of Jackie and tend to belittle Jackie's part in his production which he alone funded ( from what I understand ). I purchased the movie and have watched it several times and after awhile I began to see Jackie the actress not Jackie the singer. Perhaps you might consider viewing the movie a few more times to see if you experience something similar. I have never seen a Broadway production and it is unlikely that I will but it seems to me that one who plays a part in a Broadway production is merely combining the talent and skills of being a singer and actor. I understand that many parts of a Broadway production employ understudies ..... that might be a good place for Jackie to start and if properly prepared as for any other Broadway starlet.....I believe David ...knowing what he knows about Jackie....might consider employing Jackie. I offer this as only my opinion. Couldn't agree more, Gordie. If Jackie is willing to start at the bottom with small parts, as everyone else does, and work her way up, there's every chance she might become a Broadway star. But she better start as soon as she leaves school. There are plenty of recent stage school grads, already trained in dancing and acting, crowding into auditions for new productions and spending their summers working as apprentices in summer theaters, hoping for walkons or even small speaking parts. That's the way the theater has always worked. Much like opera, which is only a more vocally demanding form of musical theater. Would Jackie be up for that? I am wondering why would she really want to? Right now she puts out a new album every few years and has concerts all over the country and that has to be bringing in enough bucks for her and her family to live well. She could do that for the rest of her life.
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