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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 10:16:45 GMT -5
A UK/European Tour for JE would have been great when she still had some of her BIG MO, but now, how many people would even know who she was? Once you lose that MO it's hard to get it back.
Hey Christopher, I saw you LOL at one of my previous comments, but you really have to be totally out to lunch to think that I want JE to FAIL in anyway.
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Post by agog on Nov 12, 2017 13:54:26 GMT -5
If Jackie wanted an infusion of cash, she could tour Asia for several months. As sure as anyone can guarantee something they don't know, I guarantee Jackie could sell out large venues in Asia. They love Classical and CC and they love Western entertainers who tour there. She could kill the box offices in ten or more Chinese cities. Then Singapore. Taiwan (if the much more lucrative China proper wouldn't insist on her skipping Taiwan.) How about a few shows in Japan? I bet Japan remembers Jackie. Three or four shows in Australia would be sellouts, one or two in New Zealand and several in S America could wind up a Far East/Pacific tour. My wag is she could put more bucks in her purse than in all her career so far. Such a tour would do wonders for her CD sales too. If I'm wrong, Jackie could say; "I'm not listening to agog any more." If cash is her problem, and I don't think it is, Jackie could rake it in by the bushel in Asia. Good idea. But a full on Asian and South American tour would be exhausting, even for an 18 year old. And would require a major tour company to set it up and book the theaters. And there would have to be at least 22 theaters and performances in each area (Asia or South America) over a month's time . I understand that's the minimum for a theater tour to make a profit It would be very expensive to set up, with paying the living and traveling expenses for Peter K (I assume), her father, PA and PR rep at the least. Would she hire local musicians to accompany her and local performers to open for her or would she take 4 or 5 with her from the States? I think it's a good idea. but I wonder if Jackie would be prepared for what it entails An excellent response Julia. All your points are valid. Jackie has an 'ace in the hole' though. Dfoz! That man is an Asian specialist. He has personal knowledge and/or contacts to handle all aspects of a huge tour. He ain't cheap. Jackie is smart enough to know why he commands a high price. He's been there, done that, and done it well with a profit. Dfoz, PK and Jackie can all smile on their way to the bank when the tour is complete.
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Post by johnnyb on Nov 12, 2017 14:08:23 GMT -5
Good idea. But a full on Asian and South American tour would be exhausting, even for an 18 year old. And would require a major tour company to set it up and book the theaters. And there would have to be at least 22 theaters and performances in each area (Asia or South America) over a month's time . I understand that's the minimum for a theater tour to make a profit It would be very expensive to set up, with paying the living and traveling expenses for Peter K (I assume), her father, PA and PR rep at the least. Would she hire local musicians to accompany her and local performers to open for her or would she take 4 or 5 with her from the States? I think it's a good idea. but I wonder if Jackie would be prepared for what it entails An excellent response Julia. All your points are valid. Jackie has an 'ace in the hole' though. Dfoz! That man is an Asian specialist. He has personal knowledge and/or contacts to handle all aspects of a huge tour. He ain't cheap. Jackie is smart enough to know why he commands a high price. He's been there, done that, and done it well with a profit. Dfoz, PK and Jackie can all smile on their way to the bank when the tour is complete. I can't see this kind of tour happening anytime soon agog, Jackie seems to have something else in mind, hence the amount of time in NYC
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Post by agog on Nov 12, 2017 14:22:04 GMT -5
I must add some thoughts to an Asian/Pacific tour.
Jackie's marketing has always been lackluster and hit or miss in my opinion. Dfoz could change that for an Asian tour.
Jackie's merchandise for concert sales have been afterthoughts. Again, my opinion.
There are beautiful and well loved songs in Spanish Jackie could learn for the S American portion of the tour. They'd love her for that.
Jackie still doesn't have a professionally done video of a full concert for sale. I bet a simple to produce video of each concert would sell well in each specific country at minimal cost. Later, all the digital footage of various concerts, the behind the scenes shots, travelling shots and Jackie's days off tourism shots could be made into an interesting and lucrative DVD.
How about actually having some Jackie merchandise for sale at concerts? I know. I know. It's just not done.
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Post by agog on Nov 12, 2017 14:26:23 GMT -5
An excellent response Julia. All your points are valid. Jackie has an 'ace in the hole' though. Dfoz! That man is an Asian specialist. He has personal knowledge and/or contacts to handle all aspects of a huge tour. He ain't cheap. Jackie is smart enough to know why he commands a high price. He's been there, done that, and done it well with a profit. Dfoz, PK and Jackie can all smile on their way to the bank when the tour is complete. I can't see this kind of tour happening anytime soon agog, Jackie seems to have something else in mind, hence the amount of time in NYC That's a valid point too johnnyb. I also hope she "has something in mind '. Good luck to all of us.
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Post by ursus on Nov 12, 2017 17:55:15 GMT -5
[abbr style="border-bottom: 1px dotted #000000;" title="For What It's Worth"]FWIW[/abbr], Jackie has stated that she wants to sing for many future Presidents. She has already sung for Obama and Trump. Although she didn't specifically sing for them, Carter, Clinton, and Bush II were at the inauguration in January, as perhaps were one or more future Presidents. To continue this, she will have to keep up her career. Don't let Jackie hear you say that. She made it perfectly clear that she didn't sing for Trump, she sang for the office. I should have worded that differently. I am not sure how.
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Post by Gato on Nov 12, 2017 18:15:13 GMT -5
She sang for the office, while it was occupied by Obama and Trump?
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Nov 13, 2017 10:17:25 GMT -5
Good idea. But a full on Asian and South American tour would be exhausting, even for an 18 year old. And would require a major tour company to set it up and book the theaters. And there would have to be at least 22 theaters and performances in each area (Asia or South America) over a month's time . I understand that's the minimum for a theater tour to make a profit It would be very expensive to set up, with paying the living and traveling expenses for Peter K (I assume), her father, PA and PR rep at the least. Would she hire local musicians to accompany her and local performers to open for her or would she take 4 or 5 with her from the States? I think it's a good idea. but I wonder if Jackie would be prepared for what it entails An excellent response Julia. All your points are valid. Jackie has an 'ace in the hole' though. Dfoz! That man is an Asian specialist. He has personal knowledge and/or contacts to handle all aspects of a huge tour. He ain't cheap. Jackie is smart enough to know why he commands a high price. He's been there, done that, and done it well with a profit. Dfoz, PK and Jackie can all smile on their way to the bank when the tour is complete. I think Foster is concentrating now on his great goal, getting enough financial backing to stage his musical, "Betty Boop", on Broadway. I think he sees that as the capstone of his career, now that his style of pop album production isn't in demand anymore.. Plus, I doubt very much, that there is enough profit in it for him to contemplate the hassle involved in putting together such a tour on his own. It would be quite different from his kid performers' tours which relied heavily on, aren't they wonderful for their age. At 18, Jackie will be competing with other adult performers. I think one of the major tour companies like AEG might be persuaded to set it up and would certainly find out quickly if there was sufficient demand for it to be profitable before anyone got too committed
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Post by agog on Nov 13, 2017 10:40:11 GMT -5
An excellent response Julia. All your points are valid. Jackie has an 'ace in the hole' though. Dfoz! That man is an Asian specialist. He has personal knowledge and/or contacts to handle all aspects of a huge tour. He ain't cheap. Jackie is smart enough to know why he commands a high price. He's been there, done that, and done it well with a profit. Dfoz, PK and Jackie can all smile on their way to the bank when the tour is complete. I think Foster is concentrating now on his great goal, getting enough financial backing to stage his musical, "Betty Boop", on Broadway. I think he sees that as the capstone of his career, now that his style of pop album production isn't in demand anymore.. Plus, I doubt very much, that there is enough profit in it for him to contemplate the hassle involved in putting together such a tour on his own. It would be quite different from his kid performers' tours which relied heavily on, aren't they wonderful for their age. At 18, Jackie will be competing with other adult performers. I think one of the major tour companies like AEG might be persuaded to set it up and would certainly find out quickly if there was sufficient demand for it to be profitable before anyone got too committed Julia says: "I think one of the major tour companies like AEG might be persuaded to set it up and would certainly find out quickly if there was sufficient demand for it to be profitable before anyone got too committed" I respond: A feasibility study? Heck yeah! I'll go for that! One thing that makes me think such a tour, upsized or downsized, has a good chance of success is the much larger following for classical/CC music in Asia. I know, I can get pretty feverish when I have an idea. Lol.
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Post by Gato on Nov 13, 2017 10:49:01 GMT -5
I have trimmed this thread to eliminate a whole lot of childishness.
Please do better.
Thanks.
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Post by wph on Nov 13, 2017 11:59:31 GMT -5
agog generally speaking, i have enough trouble directing my own life, let alone, trying to guide someone elses.. so any attempt on my part, to pretend to know what is going to happen with jackie's is fraught with folly.. but, just for the sake of speculative nonsense, what if her moving to new york and julia's thought that the "betty boop" production is foster's capstone achievement are related?.. other than, his new squeeze, i can't think of a person the foz would think is better suited to play betty, than jackie.. who knows, certainly not me...
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Post by Gato on Nov 13, 2017 12:07:59 GMT -5
Well, since none of us (AFAIK) are in Jackie's circle of trust, most all of this is pure speculation, aka WAGs and SWAGs.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Nov 13, 2017 13:17:40 GMT -5
agog generally speaking, i have enough trouble directing my own life, let alone, trying to guide someone elses.. so any attempt on my part, to pretend to know what is going to happen with jackie's is fraught with folly.. but, just for the sake of speculative nonsense, what if her moving to new york and julia's thought that the "betty boop" production is foster's capstone achievement are related?.. other than, his new squeeze, i can't think of a person the foz would think is better suited to play betty, than jackie.. who knows, certainly not me... WPH, the famous Betty Boop cartoon character was a little before my time, but I've heard about it. I get the impression that a musical based on it would be light hearted musical comedy with lots of singing and dancing. Perhaps, a little like the "Boyfriend" which made Julie Andrews famous on Broadway although she had been radio star in the UK since the age of 12. She was a professional who could do it all, acting, singing dancing. Foster would certainly not risk the dream of his life on an untried star to sell the show. Plus, in order to get investors interested in backing Betty Boop, he would probably prefer to have a theater "NAME" to sell it to them. Now if you're suggesting that Jackie's in NY in some kind of stage school to acquire the skills to make it on Broadway, very possibly she might prove a quick study and find her true vocation. Hope so.
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Post by rob49 on Nov 13, 2017 13:29:23 GMT -5
agog generally speaking, i have enough trouble directing my own life, let alone, trying to guide someone elses.. so any attempt on my part, to pretend to know what is going to happen with jackie's is fraught with folly.. but, just for the sake of speculative nonsense, what if her moving to new york and julia's thought that the "betty boop" production is foster's capstone achievement are related?.. other than, his new squeeze, i can't think of a person the foz would think is better suited to play betty, than jackie.. who knows, certainly not me...
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Post by agog on Nov 13, 2017 14:45:37 GMT -5
I have trimmed this thread to eliminate a whole lot of childishness. Please do better. Thanks. Thank YOU!
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