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Post by jrchico on Jan 19, 2018 3:46:42 GMT -5
Of interest
. Not even an honorable mention of your girls here richard. What is going on?
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Post by richard on Jan 19, 2018 4:35:52 GMT -5
Same old ...same old.... yawn yawn Yep that sums up Jackie's career, same old songs, same old fan base, same old PR still using the little girl from AGT even though that was 7 years ago. Looks like she will be another one of the list of child celebrities that couldn't transition into an adult career. As hard as Rick tried to keep her fan site going, week after week and nothing from TE except a bunch of selfies, it doesn't look like but a few post a day. The last time Sony added to her Vevo account was 6 months ago, she is not getting enough views on her/Lisa's youtube channel to even be worth keeping it up. I yet to see any of Jackie's OTT post any graph, chart or trend that shows her career picking up.
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Post by richard on Jan 19, 2018 4:52:21 GMT -5
Of interest . Not even an honorable mention of your girls here richard. What is going on? Nobody knows what their net worth is and I can show sites that says MZ's is 5.5 million but know one ever shows where they get that information. They do know Millie Bobby Brown has made some mega deals and she isn't even mentioned. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5052587/The-rise-Stranger-Things-star-Millie-Bobby-Brown.htmlWhat did you make that video yourself 557 views and only 1 subscriber. Here is one that at least shows where they are getting their figures and they at least have 69k subscribers not just 1 LOL. You sure don't here the Ziegler's asking their fans to hand out posters are fund their music videos. You don't see Jackie with her own clothing line that are in large retail stores that probably wouldn't even use her as one of their models. Jackie has to take vacation at a relatives place with her mommy and daddy, MZ took a week vacation with a friend in Mexico then came home and took a plane to Australia and vacationed there for two weeks then came back to her home in Pittsburgh and in February will move back to her home in L.A.
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Post by nipper on Jan 19, 2018 7:56:01 GMT -5
Hey Richard, who cares! What is your point for your constant obsession in comparing Jackie with those other girls? So what that they have more views on their social media accounts. So what they have their own clothing line. And who in the hell cares where they vacation at. Jackie wasn't on a reality show for six years with hundred of thousands even millions of young girls watching. All across the US their are thousands of dance studios with hundred of thousands of young girls taking lessons. In my city alone, with a population under 100,000 their are probably 7 dance studios. There is not one store front voice lesson studio with hundreds of girls being dropped off by their parents to learn how to sing. So stop comparing Jackie to these young girls that you obsess over. All in all Jackie's career is going fine for her given the genre she sings which doesn't have millions of young girls following classical crossover music or wanting to take voice lessons in classical music. For what she has accomplished is remarkable for someone her age. At least she isn't branching out into another genre like dance and tries to pass it off like she has any talent in dancing like those other girls are attempting to do with singing. If I had a daughter that could have had the same career, the exact same childhood dream, it wouldn't be any of the girls you always compare Jackie to. It would be Jackie.
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Post by richard on Jan 19, 2018 10:28:34 GMT -5
Hey Richard, who cares! What is your point for your constant obsession in comparing Jackie with those other girls? So what that they have more views on their social media accounts. So what they have their own clothing line. And who in the hell cares where they vacation at. Jackie wasn't on a reality show for six years with hundred of thousands even millions of young girls watching. All across the US their are thousands of dance studios with hundred of thousands of young girls taking lessons. In my city alone, with a population under 100,000 their are probably 7 dance studios. There is not one store front voice lesson studio with hundreds of girls being dropped off by their parents to learn how to sing. So stop comparing Jackie to these young girls that you obsess over. All in all Jackie's career is going fine for her given the genre she sings which doesn't have millions of young girls following classical crossover music or wanting to take voice lessons in classical music. For what she has accomplished is remarkable for someone her age. At least she isn't branching out into another genre like dance and tries to pass it off like she has any talent in dancing like those other girls are attempting to do with singing. If I had a daughter that could have had the same career, the exact same childhood dream, it wouldn't be any of the girls you always compare Jackie to. It would be Jackie. Really no normal teen wants Jackie's life, no friends, kids at school didn't like her, can't do anything without her parents holding her hand, the money she makes goes to supporting a family of six. Never getting to do the things other young celebrities do like go to the movies premiers, the Hollywood parties set up just for them. Looked up-to by their own generation. Meet and work with other stars that are popular with their age group. You say if you had a daughter you would like her to have a career like Jackie's not the others but I doubt anybody's daughter feels that way they don't want to support the family while their dad sits around and does nothing all day. I think the numbers say it all MZ is gaining 12,578 daily followers and Jackie is gaining 12 daily followers. For every 60+ year old joining Jackie's instagram over 1000 teens are joining MZ's.
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Post by jrchico on Jan 19, 2018 11:35:40 GMT -5
Of interest . Not even an honorable mention of your girls here richard. What is going on? Nobody knows what their net worth is and I can show sites that says MZ's is 5.5 million but know one ever shows where they get that information. They do know Millie Bobby Brown has made some mega deals and she isn't even mentioned. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5052587/The-rise-Stranger-Things-star-Millie-Bobby-Brown.htmlWhat did you make that video yourself 557 views and only 1 subscriber. Here is one that at least shows where they are getting their figures and they at least have 69k subscribers not just 1 LOL. You sure don't here the Ziegler's asking their fans to hand out posters are fund their music videos. You don't see Jackie with her own clothing line that are in large retail stores that probably wouldn't even use her as one of their models. Jackie has to take vacation at a relatives place with her mommy and daddy, MZ took a week vacation with a friend in Mexico then came home and took a plane to Australia and vacationed there for two weeks then came back to her home in Pittsburgh and in February will move back to her home in L.A. Actually that video was a sidebar recommendation on the video you posted.
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Post by agog on Jan 19, 2018 13:53:04 GMT -5
Rickky had been on the "Jackie isn't as popular as the popular kids" for years at Amazon. No reasoning over those years helped him understand why. He doesn't want to understand. He wants to bother. Now that Amz is defunct he's shoveling that same old doodoo over here.
When Rickky and Beach Guy were allowed back on this forum without any consultation or discussion, we lost Schrodinger, Don 78something and CLeonard, three TOP posters. Enjoy Rickky's nettlesome posts. They won't stop.
Meanwhile we're setting records on this site: ten days without a fresh entry in the shout box. Hey, that's a statistic.
Oh, quick edit to add: After BG was reinstalled on the site he said "Meh... I think I'll move on." LOL!
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 19, 2018 14:20:25 GMT -5
Rickky had been on the "Jackie isn't as popular as the popular kids" for years at Amazon. No reasoning over those years helped him understand why. He doesn't want to understand. He wants to bother. Now that Amz is defunct he's shoveling that same old doodoo over here. When Rickky and Beach Guy were allowed back on this forum without any consultation or discussion, we lost Schrodinger, Don 78something and CLeonard, three TOP posters. Enjoy Rickky's nettlesome posts. They won't stop. Meanwhile we're setting records on this site: ten days without a fresh entry in the shout box. Hey, that's a statistic. Oh, quick edit to add: After BG was reinstalled on the site he said "Meh... I think I'll move on." LOL! Hold your horses there cowboy, let's not put all the blame on Beach nut and the boys. The main reason those people left was Rick stating he wasn't going to allow this forum to become a OTT Mush and Gush site, something the dinger and clan could not stomach.
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Post by richard on Jan 19, 2018 14:46:33 GMT -5
Rickky had been on the "Jackie isn't as popular as the popular kids" for years at Amazon. No reasoning over those years helped him understand why. He doesn't want to understand. He wants to bother. Now that Amz is defunct he's shoveling that same old doodoo over here. When Rickky and Beach Guy were allowed back on this forum without any consultation or discussion, we lost Schrodinger, Don 78something and CLeonard, three TOP posters. Enjoy Rickky's nettlesome posts. They won't stop. Meanwhile we're setting records on this site: ten days without a fresh entry in the shout box. Hey, that's a statistic. Oh, quick edit to add: After BG was reinstalled on the site he said "Meh... I think I'll move on." LOL! Hold your horses there cowboy, let's not put all the blame on Beach nut and the boys. The main reason those people left was Rick stating he wasn't going to allow this forum to become a OTT Mush and Gush site, something the dinger and clan could not stomach. Put the blame where it belongs what has TE done to keep fans interested in Jackie's career. It took them long enough just to update her site. She is not getting on TV shows, No interviews, Jackie doesn't talk about anything coming up, no music videos. What are we supposed to talk about her old videos that we all have seen a hundred times. Even when she has a concert they want to stop any video that may come from it. Other celebrities work hard in between gigs to keep the public and especially their fan interested in them.
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Post by agog on Jan 19, 2018 14:57:09 GMT -5
Rickky had been on the "Jackie isn't as popular as the popular kids" for years at Amazon. No reasoning over those years helped him understand why. He doesn't want to understand. He wants to bother. Now that Amz is defunct he's shoveling that same old doodoo over here. When Rickky and Beach Guy were allowed back on this forum without any consultation or discussion, we lost Schrodinger, Don 78something and CLeonard, three TOP posters. Enjoy Rickky's nettlesome posts. They won't stop. Meanwhile we're setting records on this site: ten days without a fresh entry in the shout box. Hey, that's a statistic. Oh, quick edit to add: After BG was reinstalled on the site he said "Meh... I think I'll move on." LOL! Hold your horses there cowboy, let's not put all the blame on Beach nut and the boys. The main reason those people left was Rick stating he wasn't going to allow this forum to become a OTT Mush and Gush site, something the dinger and clan could not stomach. Well pilgrim, I don't recall Rick stating that or any replies to that by the great posters we lost. Is Rick's post still up or did he delete it?
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 19, 2018 15:06:13 GMT -5
Rick has made his opinions known quite a few times on how and what kind of forum he wants to run here, I'm sure he can restate his views himself.
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Post by agog on Jan 19, 2018 15:16:50 GMT -5
Hold your horses there cowboy, let's not put all the blame on Beach nut and the boys. The main reason those people left was Rick stating he wasn't going to allow this forum to become a OTT Mush and Gush site, something the dinger and clan could not stomach. Put the blame where it belongs what has TE done to keep fans interested in Jackie's career. It took them long enough just to update her site. She is not getting on TV shows, No interviews, Jackie doesn't talk about anything coming up, no music videos. What are we supposed to talk about her old videos that we all have seen a hundred times. Even when she has a concert they want to stop any video that may come from it. Rickky, dozens of long time Jackie fans have opined on the lack of direction of Jackie's PR and other facets of her career as administered by the "team." The big difference between them and you is your continuous comparison of Jackie's career and fans with the careers and fans of the cherry pop tart girls du jour. As in the Sesame Street game the preschoolers so love and do so well on; One of these things is NOT like the others. One of these things is NOT THE SAME. One of these things is NOT like the others. Now it's time to play our game. Another difference between the criticism proffered by long time loyal fans and the criticism you spew is the long timers ARE fans. They want the best for Jackie. They couldn't conceive that copying the pop tarters would be a workable template for Jackie moving forward. You, on the other hand have never seemed to be a fan, just a guy who's found a place to dance and bother people.
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Post by agog on Jan 19, 2018 15:17:40 GMT -5
Rick has made his opinions known quite a few times on how and what kind of forum he wants to run here, I'm sure he can restate his views himself. Ah. So he didn't post that. Did he ever post that enthusiastic fans of Jackie, the people you like to denigrate as OTTers, are not welcome or encouraged here? Something? Anything?
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Post by Admin on Jan 19, 2018 15:27:04 GMT -5
The main reason those people left was Rick stating he wasn't going to allow this forum to become a OTT Mush and Gush site, I never said this. If I gave some people this impression I am sorry. All Jackie fans are welcome here. What is not welcome here is one member or group of members trying to dictate how other members can post. I am not a musher gusher. I don't believe Jackie is an angel come down from heaven. I don't believe that she, her parents and siblings, her Team" are all perfect and never make mistakes. If other members believe that, fine, but don't try to force other posters to believe it too. I want this to be a place where all fans can come and freely speak their minds both pro and con. Jackie is a human being with all the same faults and failings we all have. I can criticize her and still love her. I can still be a fan.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 19, 2018 15:29:59 GMT -5
Rick has made his opinions known quite a few times on how and what kind of forum he wants to run here, I'm sure he can restate his views himself. Ah. So he didn't post that. Did he ever post that enthusiastic fans of Jackie, the people you like to denigrate as OTTers, are not welcome or encouraged here? Something? Anything? Well Hoss, yes Rick did imply that he does not want a 100% OTT Mush and Gush site and as I have already mentioned let Rick speak for himself. The posts are there I'm just not in the mood to go looking for them.
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