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Post by ads on Jun 21, 2017 17:35:22 GMT -5
"ads" - I appreciate your efforts to help. But most of what you have said here is absolutely incomprehensible to me. I have no clue of what you are talking about after the words "A Word document.." in your third paragraph. I know what a computer file is, and I know how to get into my computer files, and I have created computer files. But that's it. I need an "Idiots guide" to help me in the rest. Internet sources that I have tried are useless. As I say above - they use a lot of double talk and technical language that are Greek to me. Does anyone knows of a good, basic website than can help "mp3 challenged" folks like me? One that won't assume I know and understand all these bewildering terms. colmikey, What I posted was for the more advanced users, I don't know if you can really learn this stuff from a minimalist perspective. If I come across any sites that have a beginners view I will post them, otherwise I could recommend to enrol in a basic computer users course. I think you need to understand file system and downloading before moving to mp3's
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Post by pgantioch on Jun 21, 2017 18:57:18 GMT -5
"ads" - I appreciate your efforts to help. But most of what you have said here is absolutely incomprehensible to me. I have no clue of what you are talking about after the words "A Word document.." in your third paragraph. I know what a computer file is, and I know how to get into my computer files, and I have created computer files. But that's it. I need an "Idiots guide" to help me in the rest. Internet sources that I have tried are useless. As I say above - they use a lot of double talk and technical language that are Greek to me. Does anyone knows of a good, basic website than can help "mp3 challenged" folks like me? One that won't assume I know and understand all these bewildering terms. I'm certainly no expert but maybe can explain a few things in lay language (hopefully I'm not TOO far off...). Many files are stored in compressed form to save space, make transmission easier, etc. "Lossy" formats just mean that with transmission, recording & copying, they lose audio quality (though higher bit rate means better quality, as ads said). "Lossless" formats preserve higher quality. Obviously, lossless formats would be better, but lossy formats usually take up less space on your hard drive (or other medium) & are easier to transmit. Maybe this will help: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lossy_compression
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Post by juxtaposer on Jun 21, 2017 19:38:40 GMT -5
I just got back from an almost 2,000 mile solo round trip by car. Much of the time I was listening to my phone by earbud. Probably my most dense, extended Jackie-listening session yet. Just want to say, Two Hearts is good road music, with its great variety of Jackie flavors. Always a little thrill when you detect which one is starting next on shuffle all, and the variety keeps it interesting, especially with a number of favorites from other albums thrown in, too. Besides the variety of styles, many of the Two Hearts selections are very dynamic with changes from soft to strong delivery, lively beat with drums, etc. I did have a few interludes of Chopin nocturnes, the only other album as yet on my new phone, but those tended to make me drowsy driving across the Texas panhandle plains. Texas sunset: Thanks for the road test, Schrodo. Did you start out with the intention of travelling 2,000 miles, or did you lose track of time listening to Jackie? That can happen, getting side tracked in the Jackiesphere. I don't have an mp3 player or ipod, but just got a CD player installed in my car definitely with Jackie in mind for a long road trip looming.
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Post by ads on Jun 21, 2017 21:22:02 GMT -5
A couple of people here are at a loss with the whole file thing, If you want me to send you some easy to understand info, send me a PM and I will see what I can find for you. This post will be confusing to those not use to downloading copying and moving mp3 files.
This thread is really for moderate to advanced users who are already downloading or ripping their MP3 files. I posted it because there were two Set_me_free.mp3 going around. One had a glitch in it and even though they had different file names, some apps would play the first "Title" in the meta data regardless of the file you clicked.
So don't let this put you off, send me a PM and I will help you out if you want.
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Post by rickolsen on Jun 22, 2017 2:25:35 GMT -5
I don't listen to .mp3 files. I convert them to .wav files so I can listen to them in my car CD player if I burn them.
My Dodge Stratus would play CDRW discs. My Chevy Impala will only play CDR discs. I don't know why. Both are 2004.
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Post by pgantioch on Jun 22, 2017 9:11:27 GMT -5
I don't listen to .mp3 files. I convert them to .wav files so I can listen to them in my car CD player if I burn them.
My Dodge Stratus would play CDRW discs. My Chevy Impala will only play CDR discs. I don't know why. Both are 2004. Wav files are lossless but bigger than mp3 files. Odd about your Dodge vs Chevy, but I'd probably go for CD-R discs anyway for those purposes.
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Post by ads on Jun 22, 2017 16:01:58 GMT -5
I don't listen to .mp3 files. I convert them to .wav files so I can listen to them in my car CD player if I burn them.
My Dodge Stratus would play CDRW discs. My Chevy Impala will only play CDR discs. I don't know why. Both are 2004. Good news for you Rick is wav looks like it will be around for a while. It is uncompressed unlike flac which is lossless compressed. It is still used in sound studios and its limitation is around 4GB or 6 hours per song so there is no issue there. From memory CDRW does require different hardware to CDR it might have something to do with closing the disc. But lets face it what is the value of a closed CDRW. You should be able to copy all your wav to usb if you get a new car stereo. I don't know if flac will take over mp3, as compression is just not important in the future, mp3 is redundant however flac hasn't really taken off yet. Mp3 is a subset of video so it might be around for a while. Apples attempt to lock all their customers into propriety systems is questionable from an ethical and standards standpoint, they are loosing the phone war, and you wouldn't want to loose all your music. Apples business model is to lock you in so you can't get out. CD CDR and CDRW are last century technology their days are numbered.
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Post by ads on Jun 22, 2017 20:06:56 GMT -5
I just bought a new car stereo, not too sure what all the features are but it has a winch at one end and a diff lock at the other.
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Post by jamesn on Jun 23, 2017 12:10:39 GMT -5
For the technically challenged. MP3, FLAC, WMV, APAC, are computer files, just like a Word Document but each one contains a audio, usually one song. Why is this important for Jackie fans. Because in a short period of time you will not be able to by CD players or DVD players to play your CD's. Think Beta, VHS, 4 track, 8 track, 3.5" floppy.......... A Word document will look like "Political_rant.doc" which will contain text. where "Attesa.mp3" will be the audio file from track 2 of Two hearts. When you click on it the computer will read the file extention ".mp3" and recognise this as an mp3 and play it with the audio application. Like wise any file ending in wmv, apac, or flac. The difference between these files is how the data is stored. The first part of the file will include the "Sample rate" which is how many times per second the sound is sampled. The higher the better the quality, but the bigger the file. It will also include the compression type, which also effects the quality. Lossless effectively use a compression algorithm (formula) that doesn't loose any quality. WMV ALAC and FLAC can all do lossless compression. MP3 can't. ALAC: I warn against using, because it will not work on anything but Apple, and you don't own anything with Apple, it is only licenced to you. WMV: is old Windows technology, good but didn't catch on MP3: is the overall standard but doesn't do lossless, but at high bit rate you are unlikely to tell the difference FLAC: Lacks support but will likely become the product of the future. Think Google vs Apple 80% vs 16% of the market. When you buy your next car it is unlikely to have a CD player and you will play off your phone, the phone will connect by Bluetooth (wireless) or by USB cable. This means you carry your music with you where ever you go. By the way I use Philips inner ear headphones cost $16 very good sound quality. This sounds like so much mumbo-jumbo, designed for one singular purpose: to FORCE you to buy the same crap over and over and over and over and over... (I'm not saying all the actual music is crap - but enough of it is!) As for me - I waited until all the stupidity over cassette vs. 8-track was settled and 8-track was safely dead before buying a single cassette, and I don't intend to get caught up in this latest round either. I have now amassed a fairly large collection of CD's that supplements my really large collection of LP's and I don't intend to chuck ANY of that for this new BS. Just wait a day or two - it'll all be obsolete soon anyway, hopefully forcing you to chase the next audio rainbow.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2017 12:27:09 GMT -5
For the technically challenged. MP3, FLAC, WMV, APAC, are computer files, just like a Word Document but each one contains a audio, usually one song. Why is this important for Jackie fans. Because in a short period of time you will not be able to by CD players or DVD players to play your CD's. Think Beta, VHS, 4 track, 8 track, 3.5" floppy.......... A Word document will look like "Political_rant.doc" which will contain text. where "Attesa.mp3" will be the audio file from track 2 of Two hearts. When you click on it the computer will read the file extention ".mp3" and recognise this as an mp3 and play it with the audio application. Like wise any file ending in wmv, apac, or flac. The difference between these files is how the data is stored. The first part of the file will include the "Sample rate" which is how many times per second the sound is sampled. The higher the better the quality, but the bigger the file. It will also include the compression type, which also effects the quality. Lossless effectively use a compression algorithm (formula) that doesn't loose any quality. WMV ALAC and FLAC can all do lossless compression. MP3 can't. ALAC: I warn against using, because it will not work on anything but Apple, and you don't own anything with Apple, it is only licenced to you. WMV: is old Windows technology, good but didn't catch on MP3: is the overall standard but doesn't do lossless, but at high bit rate you are unlikely to tell the difference FLAC: Lacks support but will likely become the product of the future. Think Google vs Apple 80% vs 16% of the market. When you buy your next car it is unlikely to have a CD player and you will play off your phone, the phone will connect by Bluetooth (wireless) or by USB cable. This means you carry your music with you where ever you go. By the way I use Philips inner ear headphones cost $16 very good sound quality. This sounds like so much mumbo-jumbo, designed for one singular purpose: to FORCE you to buy the same crap over and over and over and over and over... (I'm not saying all the actual music is crap - but enough of it is!) As for me - I waited until all the stupidity over cassette vs. 8-track was settled and 8-track was safely dead before buying a single cassette, and I don't intend to get caught up in this latest round either. I have now amassed a fairly large collection of CD's that supplements my really large collection of LP's and I don't intend to chuck ANY of that for this new BS. Just wait a day or two - it'll all be obsolete soon anyway, hopefully forcing you to chase the next audio rainbow. And get off my lawn...
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