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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 22:01:06 GMT -5
I'm not a writer, but I'll attempt to iterate my perception of Jackie and her artistry. I appreciate fine music in any genre from classical to bluegrass, to folk, some jazz, to country to R&R and pop. I have a minor education in music/voice, and have at least enough knowledge and experience to know and appreciate the techniques of good vocalization, which also allows me to recognize true artistry as well. All that really matters though is how one is affected by the music and/or the artist, vocal or instrumental. Are you moved emotionally or even "spiritually", or do you scrutinize to find the flaws and miss the magic?
Yes, Jackie has flaws, technically. So what! She can sing arias more beautifully than most the screeching female opera singers I've heard, with the flaws. They are just temporary nuances of her special vocal character. I don't agree with those who preach that she should seek vocal training. If Jackie were determined to pursue the true classical, she's smart enough to recognize the value of training if or when she might find it advantageous and necessary. Jackie is still very young and exploring her potential and her limits. She has often stated that she doesn't want to be restricted in what or how she sings. I say let her experiment until she finds herself and her artistic path.
Jackie's unique signature is the bell tone quality of her soprano voice that is so clear it is described scientifically as a perfect sine wave. I think that is what creates the "Jackie effect" unconsciously experienced by those who are moved to tears, as I have been. Some refer to that special quality as "bel canto" (beautiful singing). A small contingency of Online self-anointed "experts" refuse to acknowledge that about Jackie. Pooh! By definition bel canto is certainly an appropriate description of Jackie's singing. I wouldn't want to see that trained out of her. She knows she's got that quality and is conscious of the potential of losing it to "technique" training. That bell tone is even becoming evident in Jackie's lower register now as well, particularly apparent to me in "The Way We Were". When I listen to Jackie sing, I listen as though I had never heard the song before, and I am captivated. I don't listen to compare her with anyone, but only to hear THAT voice.
Jackie is a courageous young lady who, since the age of 10, has boldly revealed herself to the world with integrity dignity and grace through her performances, videos, interviews and even social media (reluctantly). That is accepting vulnerability for the sake of doing what she dearly loves and sharing it with the world, a "gift that keeps on giving". I admire her determination, her resilience and outward cheerful attitude amidst the hatefulness thrown at her; and also her wisdom in choosing to ignore it (as best she can anyway). She has found an outlet though in song writing. Her originals are an inventive way for her to reveal herself all the more. What a gallant young lady she is. Are we paying attention to what she's telling us?
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Post by jrchico on Apr 8, 2017 1:39:06 GMT -5
I,m not a writer, but I'll attempt to iterate my perception of Jackie and her artistry. I appreciate fine music in any genre from classical to bluegrass, to folk, some jazz, to country to R&R and pop. I have a minor education in music/voice, and have at least enough knowledge and experience to know and appreciate the techniques of good vocalization, which also allows me to recognize true artistry as well. All that really matters though is how one is affected by the music and/or the artist, vocal or instrumental. Are you moved emotionally or even "spiritually", or do you scrutinize to find the flaws and miss the magic?
Yes, Jackie has flaws, technically. So what! She can sing arias more beautifully than most the screeching female opera singers I've heard, with the flaws. They are just temporary nuances of her special vocal character. I don't agree with those who preach that she should seek vocal training. If Jackie were determined to pursue the true classical, she's smart enough to recognize the value of training if or when she might find it advantageous and necessary. Jackie is still very young and exploring her potential and her limits. She has often stated that she doesn't want to be restricted in what or how she sings. I say let her experiment until she finds herself and her artistic path.
Jackie's unique signature is the bell tone quality of her soprano voice that is so clear it is described scientifically as a perfect sine wave. I think that is what creates the "Jackie effect" unconsciously experienced by those who are moved to tears, as I have been. Some refer to that special quality as "bel canto" (beautiful singing). A small contingency of Online self-anointed "experts" refuse to acknowledge that about Jackie. Pooh! By definition bel canto is certainly an appropriate description of Jackie's singing. I wouldn't want to see that trained out of her. She knows she's got that quality and is conscious of the potential of losing it to "technique" training. That bell tone is even becoming evident in Jackie's lower register now as well, particularly apparent to me in "The Way We Were". When I listen to Jackie sing, I listen as though I had never heard the song before, and I am captivated. I don't listen to compare her with anyone, but only to hear THAT voice.
Jackie is a courageous young lady who, since the age of 10, has boldly revealed herself to the world with integrity dignity and grace through her performances, videos, interviews and even social media (reluctantly). That is accepting vulnerability for the sake of doing what she dearly loves and sharing it with the world, a "gift that keeps on giving". I admire her determination, her resilience and outward cheerful attitude amidst the hatefulness thrown at her; and also her wisdom in choosing to ignore it (as best she can anyway). She has found an outlet though in song writing. Her originals are an inventive way for her to reveal herself all the more. What a gallant young lady she is. Are we paying attention to what she's telling us?
Criticisms welcome There is no way to criticize your post cleonard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 13:04:22 GMT -5
I,m not a writer, but I'll attempt to iterate my perception of Jackie and her artistry. I appreciate fine music in any genre from classical to bluegrass, to folk, some jazz, to country to R&R and pop. I have a minor education in music/voice, and have at least enough knowledge and experience to know and appreciate the techniques of good vocalization, which also allows me to recognize true artistry as well. All that really matters though is how one is affected by the music and/or the artist, vocal or instrumental. Are you moved emotionally or even "spiritually", or do you scrutinize to find the flaws and miss the magic?
Yes, Jackie has flaws, technically. So what! She can sing arias more beautifully than most the screeching female opera singers I've heard, with the flaws. They are just temporary nuances of her special vocal character. I don't agree with those who preach that she should seek vocal training. If Jackie were determined to pursue the true classical, she's smart enough to recognize the value of training if or when she might find it advantageous and necessary. Jackie is still very young and exploring her potential and her limits. She has often stated that she doesn't want to be restricted in what or how she sings. I say let her experiment until she finds herself and her artistic path.
Jackie's unique signature is the bell tone quality of her soprano voice that is so clear it is described scientifically as a perfect sine wave. I think that is what creates the "Jackie effect" unconsciously experienced by those who are moved to tears, as I have been. Some refer to that special quality as "bel canto" (beautiful singing). A small contingency of Online self-anointed "experts" refuse to acknowledge that about Jackie. Pooh! By definition bel canto is certainly an appropriate description of Jackie's singing. I wouldn't want to see that trained out of her. She knows she's got that quality and is conscious of the potential of losing it to "technique" training. That bell tone is even becoming evident in Jackie's lower register now as well, particularly apparent to me in "The Way We Were". When I listen to Jackie sing, I listen as though I had never heard the song before, and I am captivated. I don't listen to compare her with anyone, but only to hear THAT voice.
Jackie is a courageous young lady who, since the age of 10, has boldly revealed herself to the world with integrity dignity and grace through her performances, videos, interviews and even social media (reluctantly). That is accepting vulnerability for the sake of doing what she dearly loves and sharing it with the world, a "gift that keeps on giving". I admire her determination, her resilience and outward cheerful attitude amidst the hatefulness thrown at her; and also her wisdom in choosing to ignore it (as best she can anyway). She has found an outlet though in song writing. Her originals are an inventive way for her to reveal herself all the more. What a gallant young lady she is. Are we paying attention to what she's telling us?
Criticisms welcome There is no way to criticize your post cleonard. It is not just the screeching (para 2) it's their face. Like Laura on AGT this year. Why do have to strain with their months wide open to sing. Oh yea - they are not Jackie. Like a politician trying to make a point when there is not one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 13:27:30 GMT -5
Pavarotti referred to Opera singing as " controlled yelling" (not my quote).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 22:49:31 GMT -5
Since the door is open on the subject....Our community doesn't have a radio station that plays cc music, although it did years ago when I would enjoy listening to Percy Faith, Barbra, Andy Williams, Humperdink, Jonny Mathis, you know the great crooners. Now I generally have classical music from a local university playing at moderate volume in the dining room. It's nice to hear Mozart or Ravel as I pass through to the kitchen. Except on Saturday morning. Guess what folks? It's that time again for the Metropolitan Opera! EEEgad! Sounds like there's a varment in the hen house....Buk, buk, buk, GAWK! buk BAAAAK buk buk. Can't get to the power-off button quick enough. Oh, don't get me wrong. I appreciate the years of training, the dedication and devotion to excellence it takes to sound like that. I really do. It's a real accomplishment and it's very inspiring too. It inspires me to play my DWM album and listen to Jackie sing Ombra Mai Fu, or Nessun Dorma and really enjoy the beauty of a well composed aria. Buk buk buk....that's all folks! Tune in again next week. Yeah, right.
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Post by chuck on Apr 9, 2017 6:50:28 GMT -5
I can relate to the Saturday Metropolitan Opera. Dayton has one classical radio station plus we can pull in the Cincinnati classical station. Unfortunately both broadcast the opera on Sat. afternoons. However I always have a Jackie CD available. As you may infer, I listen to a lot of classical music but do not like opera and the requisite screeching. For years, because of my wife, we had season tickets to the Dayton opera. I would pay my daughters to go in my place. Well worth it! My wife never knew.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 9:34:11 GMT -5
To those who think I'm too critical of opera and making fun of it, consider all the bashing Jackie received from the self-anointed voice "experts" who admonished Jackie, saying she had no business singing opera, and ridiculed her for lacking 'proper technique', blah, blah, blah. Much of it was rude, disrespectful, and crass. The nearsighted refused to acknowledge that Jackie made opera appealing to many of those who had relegated it to the trash bin. Jackie has taken nothing from opera, but rather contributed to it by inspiring a wider audience of at-home listeners, if not future attendees. Rather ungrateful in my view. So, I'm just giving back a little of their own medicine. I actually respect opera. It's the arrogance of those who think it's acceptable to insult a child to defend their precious egos that annoys me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 10:03:25 GMT -5
To those who think I'm too critical of opera and making fun of it, consider all the bashing Jackie received from the self-anointed voice "experts" who admonished Jackie, saying she had no business singing opera, and ridiculed her for lacking 'proper technique', blah, blah, blah. Much of it was rude, disrespectful, and crass. The nearsighted refused to acknowledge that Jackie made opera appealing to many of those who had relegated it to the trash bin. Jackie has taken nothing from opera, but rather contributed to it by inspiring a wider audience of at-home listeners, if not future attendees. Rather ungrateful in my view. So, I'm just giving back a little of their own medicine. I actually respect opera. It's the arrogance of those who think it's acceptable to insult a child to defend their precious egos that annoys me. I never saw any bashing from actual opera artists, just bloggers and critics that live on controversy. And of course, anonymous internet dwellers who for all anybody knows, may have no more expertise than what they have picked up on the internet!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 10:16:39 GMT -5
To those who think I'm too critical of opera and making fun of it, consider all the bashing Jackie received from the self-anointed voice "experts" who admonished Jackie, saying she had no business singing opera, and ridiculed her for lacking 'proper technique', blah, blah, blah. Much of it was rude, disrespectful, and crass. The nearsighted refused to acknowledge that Jackie made opera appealing to many of those who had relegated it to the trash bin. Jackie has taken nothing from opera, but rather contributed to it by inspiring a wider audience of at-home listeners, if not future attendees. Rather ungrateful in my view. So, I'm just giving back a little of their own medicine. I actually respect opera. It's the arrogance of those who think it's acceptable to insult a child to defend their precious egos that annoys me. I never saw any bashing from actual opera artists, just bloggers and critics that live on controversy. And of course, anonymous internet dwellers who for all anybody knows, may have no more expertise than what they have picked up on the internet! Yes, the real artists acknowledged her and sang duets with her. And, remember all those internet experts who warned that she was "ruining her voice"? Don't hear anything from them any more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 17:20:39 GMT -5
Age 12
Great artists interpret the world and life in unique and personal ways, seeing things abstractly, and with a disciplined approach bring their visions to reality as painting, sculpture, architecture or music. Vincent Van Gogh's "The Starry Night" is more than a painting. It is his soul exposed through the brush upon the canvas. And, Jackie's performance of the song is more than the melody. Music is a combination of mathematics and art, of structure and feeling. Jackie seems innately attuned to its complexity, able to grasp the essence of it and, with exceptional interpretive skill, brings a song to full inimitable expression with her voice.
Jackie is a visionary who's discipline is yet undefined, but who's artistry seems boundless. I treasure Jackie as one who offers the authentic elegance of what to me is an ageless voice that brings me home to what is real. She possesses something wondrous and rare, and is compelled to share it honestly without contrivance. The superficiality of life easily distracts one from connecting with what is genuine, nourishes the soul and awakens the heart. May the youth of today discover the musical artistry of Jacquelin Marie Evancho and the purity of her voice.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 19:42:36 GMT -5
There were several actual working opera singers who vemonmently attacked Jackie, but many more were the ones that had put in the required 10's of thousands of hours practice, and years of study, without success. Those who were more successful, were more accepting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 19:49:08 GMT -5
I,m not a writer, but I'll attempt to iterate my perception of Jackie and her artistry. I appreciate fine music in any genre from classical to bluegrass, to folk, some jazz, to country to R&R and pop. I have a minor education in music/voice, and have at least enough knowledge and experience to know and appreciate the techniques of good vocalization, which also allows me to recognize true artistry as well. All that really matters though is how one is affected by the music and/or the artist, vocal or instrumental. Are you moved emotionally or even "spiritually", or do you scrutinize to find the flaws and miss the magic?
Yes, Jackie has flaws, technically. So what! She can sing arias more beautifully than most the screeching female opera singers I've heard, with the flaws. They are just temporary nuances of her special vocal character. I don't agree with those who preach that she should seek vocal training. If Jackie were determined to pursue the true classical, she's smart enough to recognize the value of training if or when she might find it advantageous and necessary. Jackie is still very young and exploring her potential and her limits. She has often stated that she doesn't want to be restricted in what or how she sings. I say let her experiment until she finds herself and her artistic path.
Jackie's unique signature is the bell tone quality of her soprano voice that is so clear it is described scientifically as a perfect sine wave. I think that is what creates the "Jackie effect" unconsciously experienced by those who are moved to tears, as I have been. Some refer to that special quality as "bel canto" (beautiful singing). A small contingency of Online self-anointed "experts" refuse to acknowledge that about Jackie. Pooh! By definition bel canto is certainly an appropriate description of Jackie's singing. I wouldn't want to see that trained out of her. She knows she's got that quality and is conscious of the potential of losing it to "technique" training. That bell tone is even becoming evident in Jackie's lower register now as well, particularly apparent to me in "The Way We Were". When I listen to Jackie sing, I listen as though I had never heard the song before, and I am captivated. I don't listen to compare her with anyone, but only to hear THAT voice.
Jackie is a courageous young lady who, since the age of 10, has boldly revealed herself to the world with integrity dignity and grace through her performances, videos, interviews and even social media (reluctantly). That is accepting vulnerability for the sake of doing what she dearly loves and sharing it with the world, a "gift that keeps on giving". I admire her determination, her resilience and outward cheerful attitude amidst the hatefulness thrown at her; and also her wisdom in choosing to ignore it (as best she can anyway). She has found an outlet though in song writing. Her originals are an inventive way for her to reveal herself all the more. What a gallant young lady she is. Are we paying attention to what she's telling us?
Criticisms welcome CLeonard, on the subject of Jackie, you express my exact thoughts and fellings better than I ever could.
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Post by jrchico on Jul 11, 2017 20:22:25 GMT -5
There were several actual working opera singers who vemonmently attacked Jackie, but many more were the ones that had put in the required 10's of thousands of hours practice, and years of study, without success. Those who were more successful, were more accepting. You are right. Even the male Russian opera singer that Jackie appeared with at St Petersburgh had a lot of nasty things to say about her before she appeared there. He changed his tune after the show though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 20:47:48 GMT -5
Pavarotti referred to Opera singing as " controlled yelling" (not my quote). The opera fan elite are critical of Jackie because she lacks formal classical training and that she is not in an opera singers class because she uses a microphone.
Most every opera singer that I have seen that has performed a non operatic concert uses a microphone because they do not need to yell and thereby make their vocals produce a less beautiful sound.
Jackie is unique and closer akin to Sarah Brightman in her approach and style of singing.
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Post by guus on Jul 12, 2017 3:35:50 GMT -5
Age 12 Great artists interpret the world and life in unique and personal ways, seeing things abstractly, and with a disciplined approach bring their visions to reality as painting, sculpture, architecture or music. Vincent Van Gogh's "The Starry Night" is more than a painting. It is his soul exposed through the brush upon the canvas. And, Jackie's performance of the song is more than the melody. Music is a combination of mathematics and art, of structure and feeling. Jackie seems innately attuned to its complexity, able to grasp the essence of it and, with exceptional interpretive skill, brings a song to full inimitable expression with her voice. Jackie is a visionary who's discipline is yet undefined, but who's artistry seems boundless. I treasure Jackie as one who offers the authentic elegance of what to me is an ageless voice that brings me home to what is real. She possesses something wondrous and rare, and is compelled to share it honestly without contrivance. The superficiality of life easily distracts one from connecting with what is genuine, nourishes the soul and awakens the heart. May the youth of today discover the musical artistry of Jacquelin Marie Evancho and the purity of her voice. Now at age 17 Edit add I agree totally with your story about Jackie. The absint has helped Vincent to paint this painting. He used the absint as a selfmedication because there were no psychiatric medicins in that time. Absint has influens on the perceive of colors.
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