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Post by Beachguy on Jun 3, 2017 17:19:02 GMT -5
Her career is no where today if one reads the facts , it is at the lowest it has ever been , numbers never lie , some fans wish to close eyes and write these greatest praises as if she is the biggest name or talent in show-biz , sorry folks but she is not yet , she knows it in both hearts , she sees the income papers , she had or has many so called show-biz friends to perhaps help her If they want to , i have always believe and still Mr Foster will or could come around after she turns 18 or so to turn on the younger fan base , the now Jackie will not get her career moving forward and upward imo , it will take a new form of a Jackie .there is a saying if it works don't change it so perhaps her Classical style is her best bet if giving up a dream for now . No one is unaware of the facts or ignoring them, nor are they ignorant of the state of her career. The praises are not overboard but honest acknowledgement of Jackie's unique talent, her character, and her exceptional voice. Whether she's vastly famous or not, those are facts also, unless you refute them as noteworthy. Please enlighten us on why her career is where it is today if all your praises are true , ps I know more of her then you will ever know , I have many thousands of post about her over 7 years .
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Post by pgantioch on Jun 3, 2017 18:09:11 GMT -5
Perhaps the question should be , where IS her career now as should is a opinion but the now and where is real and present , how are her albums selling or how are her concerts seats selling ? , make no mistake she is in show-biz to sell from AGT to now , this career is not a hobby and putting her on high pedestal is not wise mostly by adults as she may or need the younger masses to reach her dream unless it has changed . , >> to any reader here >> where IS her career machine now ? in first gear , in rest , in limbo , in time machine , in twilight , in beginning , in tune up , in neutral , in detour , in park , in Go Time . Maybe all of the above, BG...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 20:13:23 GMT -5
It "amazes" me that almost daily or more I read the same doom and gloom prophesy from the same people. It is as if there is some thought that the rest of us have somehow forgotten the prophesy over the past 24 hours and are in need of a constant reminder.
Contrary to the doom and gloom, I believe Jackie is doing just fine and that when she is finished with her education and is of legal age, she will begin to make new inroads with her career. She is focused, determined and talented. She has a passion for what she does and has no fear about losing some fans that do not like the direction she wishes to experiment with or explore options which might be available. It is her bus upon which we ride and she alone knows the route it will take. If the route is not to your liking......ring the bell and get off at the next stop....taking the tiresome doom and gloom opinions with you.
Just my opinion.
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Post by Beachguy on Jun 4, 2017 8:06:25 GMT -5
It "amazes" me that almost daily or more I read the same doom and gloom prophesy from the same people. It is as if there is some thought that the rest of us have somehow forgotten the prophesy over the past 24 hours and are in need of a constant reminder. Contrary to the doom and gloom, I believe Jackie is doing just fine and that when she is finished with her education and is of legal age, she will begin to make new inroads with her career. She is focused, determined and talented. She has a passion for what she does and has no fear about losing some fans that do not like the direction she wishes to experiment with or explore options which might be available. It is her bus upon which we ride and she alone knows the route it will take. If the route is not to your liking......ring the bell and get off at the next stop....taking the tiresome doom and gloom opinions with you. Just my opinion. A good forum has all kinds of opinion no need to tell people to , this is America yet , i agree when she is a adult we will see the true Jackie , some fans who care are pointing things out now as to help her find her true road to success as some mistakes help in the end , i don't think she is doing fine nor does she in fact , maybe poor to fair .she has over 100,000 + followers on social media sites and Sold how many of last Album ? duh Ps you are correct she has no fear of losing the older fan base as the younger age is what she needs .
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Post by Beachguy on Jun 4, 2017 8:11:54 GMT -5
Perhaps the question should be , where IS her career now as should is a opinion but the now and where is real and present , how are her albums selling or how are her concerts seats selling ? , make no mistake she is in show-biz to sell from AGT to now , this career is not a hobby and putting her on high pedestal is not wise mostly by adults as she may or need the younger masses to reach her dream unless it has changed . , >> to any reader here >> where IS her career machine now ? in first gear , in rest , in limbo , in time machine , in twilight , in beginning , in tune up , in neutral , in detour , in park , in Go Time . Maybe all of the above, BG... YIKES !!!! you mean i got it all right ?? ok my man , you are wise .
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Post by Beachguy on Jun 4, 2017 8:20:09 GMT -5
If the fans of a singing Artist do not let the Artist know they are not happy with the place where the Artist is by not buying the Artists' music then Good fans will let her know so the Artist has a heads up to perhaps find out what the buying fans would like as it is nice if the Artist can sell what it likes but perhaps needs to sing what the buying masses like . it all about $$$$$$$$$$$ unless the Artist has enough to not care one way or the other .
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Post by Beachguy on Jun 11, 2017 10:43:16 GMT -5
Should ? perhaps Jackie and team are sitting at the table looking at the last couple results on albums and are trying to decide were to go after off her pedestal in her career today not next year at 18 or are they waiting for age 18 ? perhaps a Mr Foster , could she use a coach as on the show the Voice ? to work on bringing out her stage Personality more and set free to move more as a Teen on stage to Excite the youth movement she perhaps must in order to reach a dream , perhaps the coming months will give views into the future with open eyes that fans are looking for , the only question is are they Still looking and if not can she find New ones .
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Post by pgantioch on Jun 11, 2017 23:10:40 GMT -5
Should ? perhaps Jackie and team are sitting at the table looking at the last couple results on albums and are trying to decide were to go after off her pedestal in her career today not next year at 18 or are they waiting for age 18 ? perhaps a Mr Foster , could she use a coach as on the show the Voice ? to work on bringing out her stage Personality more and set free to move more as a Teen on stage to Excite the youth movement she perhaps must in order to reach a dream , perhaps the coming months will give views into the future with open eyes that fans are looking for , the only question is are they Still looking and if not can she find New ones .
Patience, grasshopper. Let her explore. She may move in a lot of directions in the future - maybe several at once. Years ago, I wondered whether Jackie would stay with CC or change/add genres. I also wondered if she would stay with a solo career or work with others, or if she would head for musical theater/Broadway or movies/LA. I wondered if she would try to become established internationally. From her recent foray in China, she might be moving toward several of these things at once.
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Post by Beachguy on Jun 12, 2017 11:02:52 GMT -5
Should ? perhaps Jackie and team are sitting at the table looking at the last couple results on albums and are trying to decide were to go after off her pedestal in her career today not next year at 18 or are they waiting for age 18 ? perhaps a Mr Foster , could she use a coach as on the show the Voice ? to work on bringing out her stage Personality more and set free to move more as a Teen on stage to Excite the youth movement she perhaps must in order to reach a dream , perhaps the coming months will give views into the future with open eyes that fans are looking for , the only question is are they Still looking and if not can she find New ones .
Patience, grasshopper. Let her explore. She may move in a lot of directions in the future - maybe several at once. Years ago, I wondered whether Jackie would stay with CC or change/add genres. I also wondered if she would stay with a solo career or work with others, or if she would head for musical theater/Broadway or movies/LA. I wondered if she would try to become established internationally. From her recent foray in China, she might be moving toward several of these things at once. I don't think that is a good idea as then she will not know what people WANT to buy , i never believed in others except singing but we will see if alive . wait did you call me a insect ? o i get it ..on weed
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Post by pgantioch on Jun 13, 2017 13:23:57 GMT -5
Patience, grasshopper. Let her explore. She may move in a lot of directions in the future - maybe several at once. Years ago, I wondered whether Jackie would stay with CC or change/add genres. I also wondered if she would stay with a solo career or work with others, or if she would head for musical theater/Broadway or movies/LA. I wondered if she would try to become established internationally. From her recent foray in China, she might be moving toward several of these things at once. I don't think that is a good idea as then she will not know what people WANT to buy , i never believed in others except singing but we will see if alive . wait did you call me a insect ? o i get it ..on weed Creative artists can't simply pander to their audience. They have to follow their hearts to a certain extent. Sometimes the fans come along, sometimes they don't. Bob Dylan's early folk music fans didn't like it when he went electric, but it worked out eventually, didn't it? As to the patience (young) grasshopper quote...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 13:46:18 GMT -5
I used to love watching "Kung Fu". The guy would turn his cheek for most of the episode, enduring insults, even racist ones, from the biggest adam henrys the Old West had to offer. But you always knew that with about 10 minutes left someone would get in his space and it'd be time for a whuppin. It was like he was cleaning up the ones that Lucas McCaine missed.
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 2, 2017 10:26:23 GMT -5
There is a movement by Jackie & team in career taking place as we post but what is the movement ? , to being 18 and considered a adult to do more daring show-biz on stage to find a youth movement ? . if not then what , who would know more then members on a Jackie forum
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 0:49:13 GMT -5
Beachguy,
I will say, you have consistently shown that you are astute at innuendo.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2017 8:08:31 GMT -5
It "amazes" me that almost daily or more I read the same doom and gloom prophesy from the same people. It is as if there is some thought that the rest of us have somehow forgotten the prophesy over the past 24 hours and are in need of a constant reminder. Contrary to the doom and gloom, I believe Jackie is doing just fine and that when she is finished with her education and is of legal age, she will begin to make new inroads with her career. She is focused, determined and talented. She has a passion for what she does and has no fear about losing some fans that do not like the direction she wishes to experiment with or explore options which might be available. It is her bus upon which we ride and she alone knows the route it will take. If the route is not to your liking......ring the bell and get off at the next stop....taking the tiresome doom and gloom opinions with you. Just my opinion. A good forum has all kinds of opinion no need to tell people to , this is America yet , i agree when she is a adult we will see the true Jackie , some fans who care are pointing things out now as to help her find her true road to success as some mistakes help in the end , i don't think she is doing fine nor does she in fact , maybe poor to fair .she has over 100,000 + followers on social media sites and Sold how many of last Album ? duh Ps you are correct she has no fear of losing the older fan base as the younger age is what she needs . A "good forum" needs all kinds of honest opinions. It does not the constant repetition of the same doom and gloom hyperbole hourly. That is NOT how to build a good forum, and it does not change anyone's opinions. To be perfectly honest people who relentlessly resort to such tactics have NO interest in a free and honest discussion, their only intention is to provoke.
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 3, 2017 8:40:04 GMT -5
A good forum has all kinds of opinion no need to tell people to , this is America yet , i agree when she is a adult we will see the true Jackie , some fans who care are pointing things out now as to help her find her true road to success as some mistakes help in the end , i don't think she is doing fine nor does she in fact , maybe poor to fair .she has over 100,000 + followers on social media sites and Sold how many of last Album ? duh Ps you are correct she has no fear of losing the older fan base as the younger age is what she needs . A "good forum" needs all kinds of honest opinions. It does not the constant repetition of the same doom and gloom hyperbole hourly. That is NOT how to build a good forum, and it does not change anyone's opinions. To be perfectly honest people who relentlessly resort to such tactics have NO interest in a free and honest discussion, their only intention is to provoke. Perhaps it works to get a opinion as of yours , no one reads my positive posts as " Mirror " so i post what i see as gloom at this time in career , i see no great joy or success at this time , perhaps i am blinded or you are blinded , no matter what , it only a opinion .
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