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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 10:57:18 GMT -5
yeah, it's the theater doing it...dont think it has anything to do with Jackie at all. Agree, I dont know much that industry either.
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Post by rlhamil on Jun 28, 2019 11:20:23 GMT -5
I think all those seats really arent sold, OR, they are, and like you said politicians and other more prominent people who live there bought those tickets and know of her due to the inauguration. I thought about getting tickets to the front row early on for this show, but $400 is absurd and frankly bizarre. I surprisingly almost find it offensive. I doubt that Jackie's short and, unfortunately not her best performance at the Inauguration, was so memorable as to cause an upsurge in ticket sales at these prices. And no, I think her fee is her fee, no b.o. cut. So agree, some kind of manipulation seems to be going on but don't know enough about the business to understand what it is. Terms for a cut on take above some number in addition to fee are not terribly unusual, AFAIK. OTOH, I think Ticketmaster and/or their affiliates play at least as free and loose as federal (and local? anyone know about DC law on this stuff?) law allows.
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Post by ursus on Jun 28, 2019 11:51:40 GMT -5
yeah, it's the theater doing it...dont think it has anything to do with Jackie at all. Agree, I dont know much that industry either. Well, the theater was a porn house in the 1970's so anything is possible
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Jun 28, 2019 12:01:20 GMT -5
I doubt that Jackie's short and, unfortunately not her best performance at the Inauguration, was so memorable as to cause an upsurge in ticket sales at these prices. And no, I think her fee is her fee, no b.o. cut. So agree, some kind of manipulation seems to be going on but don't know enough about the business to understand what it is. Terms for a cut on take above some number in addition to fee are not terribly unusual, AFAIK. OTOH, I think Ticketmaster and/or their affiliates play at least as free and loose as federal (and local? anyone know about DC law on this stuff?) law allows. Oh, I agree, but not much use unless you're a big star.
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Post by Nick on Jun 28, 2019 12:51:19 GMT -5
This happens all the time on Ticketmaster. It is their new "dynamic" pricing which increases the cost of standard tickets depending on demand. A Darci Lynn show recently had first 2 rows as VIP M&G from the artist for 100. The next 6 rows were more expensive but only standard tickets (platinum/dynamic pricing).
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Jun 28, 2019 15:13:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 18:52:54 GMT -5
Translation...lets see how badly we can scam/gouge the fans. lets pretend a bunch of front seats are sold out, except for a few, and raise those seats four fold and call them "premium"..."grab the last ones while you can", then if someone is crazy/rich enough to buy them, open up a few more front seats at same price, and so on. That should be illegal, what a slime ball theater.
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Post by tunemonger on Jun 29, 2019 14:39:26 GMT -5
I'm a DC native, I don't recall the Warner being a porn house in the 70s. It must have been for a fairly short period of time. In fact, I saw many first rate groups there in the 70s and it is generally regarded as an acoustic cherry. It's also a beautiful art deco theater. The Stones played there, wish I'd seen that show.
Nonetheless, those prices are beyond ridiculous. I've never seen Jackie live and it looks as if it will continue that way.
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Post by ursus on Jun 29, 2019 15:58:46 GMT -5
I'm a DC native, I don't recall the Warner being a porn house in the 70s. It must have been for a fairly short period of time. In fact, I saw many first rate groups there in the 70s and it is generally regarded as an acoustic cherry. It's also a beautiful art deco theater. The Stones played there, wish I'd seen that show. Nonetheless, those prices are beyond ridiculous. I've never seen Jackie live and it looks as if it will continue that way. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warner_Theatre_(Washington,_D.C.) By the 1970s, the Warner Theatre had fallen into disrepair and was briefly used to screen pornographic films before being revived as a live concert venue.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 19:19:43 GMT -5
You can get seats about 15 rows back for $115/seat...so you could go for a fairly reasonable price I guess. When I go see Jackie, I want to be near the front.
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Post by rlhamil on Jun 30, 2019 6:32:39 GMT -5
Translation...lets see how badly we can scam/gouge the fans. lets pretend a bunch of front seats are sold out, except for a few, and raise those seats four fold and call them "premium"..."grab the last ones while you can", then if someone is crazy/rich enough to buy them, open up a few more front seats at same price, and so on. That should be illegal, what a slime ball theater. If there's games being played, it's not the venue, it's Ticketmaster. A venue wouldn't have the computer facilities, software, and perhaps human intervention needed to play those games. Probably venues that don't sell direct have a deal with some big seller like Ticketmaster. They go with the one that's likely to make them the most $$, and if they're culpable, it's only for not asking questions about how open and transparent it will be, and insisting on respectable answers. Some locales have laws that require certain behavior (including but not limited to anti-scalping laws), some don't. I don't know what DC's laws are, but I suspect the legislative sympathies inside the Beltway (both federal and district) are often in favor of crooks, not that that isn't true a lot of other places, too. As far as I know, there hasn't been much progress on federal law about this. pascrell.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2355
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Post by ursus on Jun 30, 2019 7:30:01 GMT -5
Translation...lets see how badly we can scam/gouge the fans. lets pretend a bunch of front seats are sold out, except for a few, and raise those seats four fold and call them "premium"..."grab the last ones while you can", then if someone is crazy/rich enough to buy them, open up a few more front seats at same price, and so on. That should be illegal, what a slime ball theater. If there's games being played, it's not the venue, it's Ticketmaster. A venue wouldn't have the computer facilities, software, and perhaps human intervention needed to play those games. Probably venues that don't sell direct have a deal with some big seller like Ticketmaster. They go with the one that's likely to make them the most $$, and if they're culpable, it's only for not asking questions about how open and transparent it will be, and insisting on respectable answers. Some locales have laws that require certain behavior (including but not limited to anti-scalping laws), some don't. I don't know what DC's laws are, but I suspect the legislative sympathies inside the Beltway (both federal and district) are often in favor of crooks, not that that isn't true a lot of other places, too. As far as I know, there hasn't been much progress on federal law about this. pascrell.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2355I don't know if this ever was fixed. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/local/wp/2013/10/15/d-c-accidentally-legalizes-ticket-scalping/?utm_term=.b945323190da
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 9:14:29 GMT -5
The fans really are getting screwed in this case, and with those sort of prices, some actually still wonder why there are so many empty seats at some of these concerts.... amazing!
Many in the entertainment industry need to start asking themselves, if this really is helping to expand their fanbase!? I think the answer is a definite NO!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 12:13:38 GMT -5
I've looked at the prices for front section tickets at a lot of her concerts...haven't seen prices nearly this high...I wonder if Jackie is aware of it in this case. It's just outrageous.
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Post by rlhamil on Jun 30, 2019 15:24:36 GMT -5
That was 2013; they've fixed that. But there are other reports of Ticketmaster doing shady things to jack up prices; such as where resale of tickets is legal, they'd allegedly back the 1st purchasers so they could collect fees on both 1st and 2nd sale. That's not what's happening here (AFAIK), but it's still a way of getting a heck of a lot more than a reasonable handling fee. A bunch that's milking the system one way, could easily do it other ways too.
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