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Post by Julia Trenholm on May 27, 2019 7:46:55 GMT -5
Nipper said, "...Not much of a Tour if you ask me." "Tour" simply means performing concerts around the country until her next album release which is typically about two years. A tour must be announced upon release of an album, but for Jackie it doesn't necessarily begin with a series of tightly scheduled concerts at the outset, particularly in summer. Since Jackie is managing her own career, juggling varied interests, and determining her workload along with leisure time, we should not expect her schedule to be dictated by the same demands as others. Let the tour unfold according to whatever considerations are paramount to Jackie and her team at present and not come to any anxious conclusions. The tour schedule with fill up as arrangements are made, as usual. As we all should know now, singers, except the MAJOR stars ,don't make the money they used to on physical album sales. And unfortunately, Jackie has large expenses that other young singers don't. Her siblings will eventually support themselves, as Juliet is now doing at Macy's, but she will always have to support her parents. That's not unusual, but most parents are self supporting until they are elderly. Jackie has been supporting them since she was 10. Her mother may be sick, as Jackie said in an interview, but her father's only job now and probably, in the future, is as his daughter's paid companion. In other words, Jackie can't afford to take the summer off, as she used to.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 8:03:21 GMT -5
Nipper said, "...Not much of a Tour if you ask me." "Tour" simply means performing concerts around the country until her next album release which is typically about two years. A tour must be announced upon release of an album, but for Jackie it doesn't necessarily begin with a series of tightly scheduled concerts at the outset, particularly in summer. Since Jackie is managing her own career, juggling varied interests, and determining her workload along with leisure time, we should not expect her schedule to be dictated by the same demands as others. Let the tour unfold according to whatever considerations are paramount to Jackie and her team at present and not come to any anxious conclusions. The tour schedule with fill up as arrangements are made, as usual. As we all should know now, singers, except the MAJOR stars ,don't make the money they used to on physical album sales. And unfortunately, Jackie has large expenses that other young singers don't. Her siblings will eventually support themselves, as Juliet is now doing at Macy's, but she will always have to support her parents. That's not unusual, but most parents are self supporting until they are elderly. Jackie has been supporting them since she was 10. Her mother may be sick, as Jackie said in an interview, but her father's only job now and probably, in the future, is as his daughter's paid companion. In other words, Jackie can't afford to take the summer off, as she used to. Julia, many arguments have been made against your "Jackie has to support her dependent parents" routine, that she is extraordinarily burdened, etc. Read Gordie and geb's explanations for example on the Changsha China thread, beginning May 25th, and perhaps gain a different perspective.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on May 27, 2019 8:10:34 GMT -5
Nipper said, "...Not much of a Tour if you ask me." "Tour" simply means performing concerts around the country until her next album release which is typically about two years. A tour must be announced upon release of an album, but for Jackie it doesn't necessarily begin with a series of tightly scheduled concerts at the outset, particularly in summer. Since Jackie is managing her own career, juggling varied interests, and determining her workload along with leisure time, we should not expect her schedule to be dictated by the same demands as others. Let the tour unfold according to whatever considerations are paramount to Jackie and her team at present and not come to any anxious conclusions. The tour schedule with fill up as arrangements are made, as usual. As we all should know now, singers, except the MAJOR stars ,don't make the money they used to on physical album sales. And unfortunately, Jackie has large expenses that other young singers don't. Her siblings will eventually support themselves, as Juliet is now doing at Macy's, but she will always have to support her parents. That's not unusual, but most parents are self supporting until they are elderly. Jackie has been supporting them since she was 10. Her mother may be sick, as Jackie said in an interview, but her father's only job now and probably, in the future, is as his daughter's paid companion. In other words, Jackie can't afford to take the summer off, as she used to.1) I doubt, that Jackie can't afford to take the summer off. 2) I'm sure, that Jackie's father will not be the paid companion in the future. I mean, Jackie is 19 now and that is an age, where you (still) some need their parents. But I'm sure, in a few years, Jackie want have her father around her (probably) 24 hours. If she has a friend or a stable relationship, you don't need you parents anymore. But still, you love your parents and will support them.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on May 27, 2019 10:00:23 GMT -5
As we all should know now, singers, except the MAJOR stars ,don't make the money they used to on physical album sales. And unfortunately, Jackie has large expenses that other young singers don't. Her siblings will eventually support themselves, as Juliet is now doing at Macy's, but she will always have to support her parents. That's not unusual, but most parents are self supporting until they are elderly. Jackie has been supporting them since she was 10. Her mother may be sick, as Jackie said in an interview, but her father's only job now and probably, in the future, is as his daughter's paid companion. In other words, Jackie can't afford to take the summer off, as she used to.1) I doubt, that Jackie can't afford to take the summer off. 2) I'm sure, that Jackie's father will not be the paid companion in the future. I mean, Jackie is 19 now and that is an age, where you (still) some need their parents. But I'm sure, in a few years, Jackie want have her father around her (probably) 24 hours. If she has a friend or a stable relationship, you don't need you parents anymore. But still, you love your parents and will support them. Most people expect they may have to implement their parents' social security income when they retire, unless they have good pensions from a lifetime of work or have been successful in their professions or trades. What's unusual is that Jackie has been supporting her youngish, middle-aged father since she was 10, who is clearly (from his social media) having the time of his life, as her companion. And has no history of a lifetime of work and therefore is not eligible for a pension and only minimum SS. And what bothers me a little is that Jackie seems so dependent on his presence. As you suggest, Jackie is a young professional singer now embarking on her adult career and the next few years are very important to her success. That's what I meant by Jackie not being able to afford to take the summer off. Her career can't afford that long hiatus. Her father is NOT who she should be hanging out with. She, apparently, has made no effort to meet other young entertainers, although Nunziata could certainly introduce her to slews of them. I would much rather see Jackie at dinner with Will N. (since he's gay, no problem with the usual concerns) and mixing with her peers in NY at the places they gather.
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Post by Willyiam on May 27, 2019 10:49:51 GMT -5
1) I doubt, that Jackie can't afford to take the summer off. 2) I'm sure, that Jackie's father will not be the paid companion in the future. I mean, Jackie is 19 now and that is an age, where you (still) some need their parents. But I'm sure, in a few years, Jackie want have her father around her (probably) 24 hours. If she has a friend or a stable relationship, you don't need you parents anymore. But still, you love your parents and will support them. Most people expect they may have to implement their parents' social security income when they retire, unless they have good pensions from a lifetime of work or have been successful in their professions or trades. What's unusual is that Jackie has been supporting her youngish, middle-aged father since she was 10, who is clearly (from his social media) having the time of his life, as her companion. And has no history of a lifetime of work and therefore is not eligible for a pension and only minimum SS. And what bothers me a little is that Jackie seems so dependent on his presence. As you suggest, Jackie is a young professional singer now embarking on her adult career and the next few years are very important to her success. That's what I meant by Jackie not being able to afford to take the summer off. Her career can't afford that long hiatus. Her father is NOT who she should be hanging out with. She, apparently, has made no effort to meet other young entertainers, although Nunziata could certainly introduce her to slews of them. I would much rather see Jackie at dinner with Will N. (since he's gay, no problem with the usual concerns) and mixing with her peers in NY at the places they gather. This discussion may have started out pertaining to the Feinstein’s/54 Below concert, but the past several posts have nothing to do with that concert. Thanks
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Post by johnnyb on May 27, 2019 11:53:38 GMT -5
1) I doubt, that Jackie can't afford to take the summer off. 2) I'm sure, that Jackie's father will not be the paid companion in the future. I mean, Jackie is 19 now and that is an age, where you (still) some need their parents. But I'm sure, in a few years, Jackie want have her father around her (probably) 24 hours. If she has a friend or a stable relationship, you don't need you parents anymore. But still, you love your parents and will support them. Most people expect they may have to implement their parents' social security income when they retire, unless they have good pensions from a lifetime of work or have been successful in their professions or trades. What's unusual is that Jackie has been supporting her youngish, middle-aged father since she was 10, who is clearly (from his social media) having the time of his life, as her companion. And has no history of a lifetime of work and therefore is not eligible for a pension and only minimum SS. And what bothers me a little is that Jackie seems so dependent on his presence. As you suggest, Jackie is a young professional singer now embarking on her adult career and the next few years are very important to her success. That's what I meant by Jackie not being able to afford to take the summer off. Her career can't afford that long hiatus. Her father is NOT who she should be hanging out with. She, apparently, has made no effort to meet other young entertainers, although Nunziata could certainly introduce her to slews of them. I would much rather see Jackie at dinner with Will N. (since he's gay, no problem with the usual concerns) and mixing with her peers in NY at the places they gather. Watch out Julia, that kind of rational thinking will get you banned from this utopia. Independent points of view that don't toe the party line are not tolerated by the OTT'S
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Post by rlhamil on May 27, 2019 13:20:27 GMT -5
1) I doubt, that Jackie can't afford to take the summer off. 2) I'm sure, that Jackie's father will not be the paid companion in the future. I mean, Jackie is 19 now and that is an age, where you (still) some need their parents. But I'm sure, in a few years, Jackie want have her father around her (probably) 24 hours. If she has a friend or a stable relationship, you don't need you parents anymore. But still, you love your parents and will support them. Most people expect they may have to implement their parents' social security income when they retire, unless they have good pensions from a lifetime of work or have been successful in their professions or trades. What's unusual is that Jackie has been supporting her youngish, middle-aged father since she was 10, who is clearly (from his social media) having the time of his life, as her companion. And has no history of a lifetime of work and therefore is not eligible for a pension and only minimum SS. And what bothers me a little is that Jackie seems so dependent on his presence. As you suggest, Jackie is a young professional singer now embarking on her adult career and the next few years are very important to her success. That's what I meant by Jackie not being able to afford to take the summer off. Her career can't afford that long hiatus. Her father is NOT who she should be hanging out with. She, apparently, has made no effort to meet other young entertainers, although Nunziata could certainly introduce her to slews of them. I would much rather see Jackie at dinner with Will N. (since he's gay, no problem with the usual concerns) and mixing with her peers in NY at the places they gather. The absence of concerts over summer does not indicate no work or no income during that time. It may simply indicate that the sorts of venues she performs at rarely schedule acts like hers over summer. In any case, there's always exploration, selection, and development of future content, and private events, both of which cause less problems if there's little publicity at the time. Not to mention some things that have been about expanding writing skills or vocal techniques appropriate to other than light classical style - not classroom training, but training just the same. As I recall, their summer vacations run to a week or two, give or take a thin scattering of extra days for specific occasions or events. The rest can be presumed to be work at a normal schedule - which, counting promo and attending or participating in various events that are career related, probably isn't that much less than the 40 hours a week most people put in, and per Jackie herself (if I recall correctly), can run to 50 hours a week. As for who to hang out with, I don't think career related contacts are being shortchanged. Artists and related specialists may be great for career, but they're not all there is to life; family, even if not identical to how you or I would conduct it, is grounding, and as many artists are notoriously un-grounded, a good counterbalance to the necessary interaction with those that may be good career influences but may be abysmal influences on a personal level. I think even at her present age, Jackie can decide for herself how much she wants a parent around, vs how much that might be impacting career or promotion or whatever.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 15:27:50 GMT -5
1) I doubt, that Jackie can't afford to take the summer off. 2) I'm sure, that Jackie's father will not be the paid companion in the future. I mean, Jackie is 19 now and that is an age, where you (still) some need their parents. But I'm sure, in a few years, Jackie want have her father around her (probably) 24 hours. If she has a friend or a stable relationship, you don't need you parents anymore. But still, you love your parents and will support them. Most people expect they may have to implement their parents' social security income when they retire, unless they have good pensions from a lifetime of work or have been successful in their professions or trades. What's unusual is that Jackie has been supporting her youngish, middle-aged father since she was 10, who is clearly (from his social media) having the time of his life, as her companion. And has no history of a lifetime of work and therefore is not eligible for a pension and only minimum SS. And what bothers me a little is that Jackie seems so dependent on his presence. As you suggest, Jackie is a young professional singer now embarking on her adult career and the next few years are very important to her success. That's what I meant by Jackie not being able to afford to take the summer off. Her career can't afford that long hiatus. Her father is NOT who she should be hanging out with. She, apparently, has made no effort to meet other young entertainers, although Nunziata could certainly introduce her to slews of them. I would much rather see Jackie at dinner with Will N. (since he's gay, no problem with the usual concerns) and mixing with her peers in NY at the places they gather. I find it difficult to understand why Julia keeps returning to this thorn that bothers her about the Jackie/Mike relationship. As a parent, I commend Mike and Lisa's unselfish behaviour in putting aside their lives to fully support their extraordinary daughter's dream. They enabled Jackie to fulfill her dream when most parents would not have risked their future and that of their other children to commit everything for Jackie and her future. If you were to look at the attention that Angelica Hale's parents are giving her then you might start to understand what GOOD parenting is all about. Mike and Lisa set up JE Touring Inc and you can be sure that it was their financial sources, including loans etc that enabled that to happen. A GOOD parent would NEVER relinquish their child to travel around the country and abroad to some other individual who was being paid to act as a companion when really she needed a parent. The interests of a companion versus a parent are quite different. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that relationship.
In regard to Jackie as a young adult, Mike still has Jackie's best interests at heart. Yes, he gets paid for travelling with Jackie but so would some companion so that argument is a no-brainer. Might it be better for Jackie to be travelling with someone her own age --- possibly --- but at this time she is still very close and comfortable travelling with Dad. He knows Jackie's moods, likes, dislikes and expectations better than anyone else. In time I believe Jackie will become comfortable with travelling by herself --- like Sumi Jo of Sarah Brightman. But unlike most every other performer, Jackie's professional career began at age 10 and included travelling abroad. Jackie has lived a very different childhood, teen and now adult than most other performers.
Julia --- I know you have your own beliefs and opinion about this subject which seems to upset you quite a bit but I for one totally and without reservation reject it all. I truly hope that you and a couple of others that have some similar feelings will now just drop the subject, because constantly resurrecting it does not convince those that see it differently from changing their minds.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on May 27, 2019 16:03:26 GMT -5
Most people expect they may have to implement their parents' social security income when they retire, unless they have good pensions from a lifetime of work or have been successful in their professions or trades. What's unusual is that Jackie has been supporting her youngish, middle-aged father since she was 10, who is clearly (from his social media) having the time of his life, as her companion. And has no history of a lifetime of work and therefore is not eligible for a pension and only minimum SS. And what bothers me a little is that Jackie seems so dependent on his presence. As you suggest, Jackie is a young professional singer now embarking on her adult career and the next few years are very important to her success. That's what I meant by Jackie not being able to afford to take the summer off. Her career can't afford that long hiatus. Her father is NOT who she should be hanging out with. She, apparently, has made no effort to meet other young entertainers, although Nunziata could certainly introduce her to slews of them. I would much rather see Jackie at dinner with Will N. (since he's gay, no problem with the usual concerns) and mixing with her peers in NY at the places they gather. I find it difficult to understand why Julia keeps returning to this thorn that bothers her about the Jackie/Mike relationship. As a parent, I commend Mike and Lisa's unselfish behaviour in putting aside their lives to fully support their extraordinary daughter's dream. They enabled Jackie to fulfill her dream when most parents would not have risked their future and that of their other children to commit everything for Jackie and her future. If you were to look at the attention that Angelica Hale's parents are giving her then you might start to understand what GOOD parenting is all about. Mike and Lisa set up JE Touring Inc and you can be sure that it was their financial sources, including loans etc that enabled that to happen. A GOOD parent would NEVER relinquish their child to travel around the country and abroad to some other individual who was being paid to act as a companion when really she needed a parent. The interests of a companion versus a parent are quite different. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that relationship.
In regard to Jackie as a young adult, Mike still has Jackie's best interests at heart. Yes, he gets paid for travelling with Jackie but so would some companion so that argument is a no-brainer. Might it be better for Jackie to be travelling with someone her own age --- possibly --- but at this time she is still very close and comfortable travelling with Dad. He knows Jackie's moods, likes, dislikes and expectations better than anyone else. In time I believe Jackie will become comfortable with travelling by herself --- like Sumi Jo of Sarah Brightman. But unlike most every other performer, Jackie's professional career began at age 10 and included travelling abroad. Jackie has lived a very different childhood, teen and now adult than most other performers.
Julia --- I know you have your own beliefs and opinion about this subject which seems to upset you quite a bit but I for one totally and without reservation reject it all. I truly hope that you and a couple of others that have some similar feelings will now just drop the subject, because constantly resurrecting it does not convince those that see it differently from changing their minds.
I'll tell you exactly why, Gordie. It's because it is so often that, when we see Jackie in restaurants when not performing, it is her father's grinning face wedged beside her. As though he were in some way responsible for her success. If any member of her family made it possible for Jackie to get her chance, it was her mother and we all know that. And yet Lisa seems to be in purdah, "seriously ill" Jackie says. Lisa has her problems, and we all know that, too, but that doesn't change the fact that, left to Michael Evancho, not only would Jackie not have had her chance, God knows what have happened to the whole family. It was Jackie who saved them all from bankruptcy and that wouldn't have happened without Lisa.
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Post by bounderdriver on May 27, 2019 20:04:38 GMT -5
I find it difficult to understand why Julia keeps returning to this thorn that bothers her about the Jackie/Mike relationship. As a parent, I commend Mike and Lisa's unselfish behaviour in putting aside their lives to fully support their extraordinary daughter's dream. They enabled Jackie to fulfill her dream when most parents would not have risked their future and that of their other children to commit everything for Jackie and her future. If you were to look at the attention that Angelica Hale's parents are giving her then you might start to understand what GOOD parenting is all about. Mike and Lisa set up JE Touring Inc and you can be sure that it was their financial sources, including loans etc that enabled that to happen. A GOOD parent would NEVER relinquish their child to travel around the country and abroad to some other individual who was being paid to act as a companion when really she needed a parent. The interests of a companion versus a parent are quite different. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that relationship.
In regard to Jackie as a young adult, Mike still has Jackie's best interests at heart. Yes, he gets paid for travelling with Jackie but so would some companion so that argument is a no-brainer. Might it be better for Jackie to be travelling with someone her own age --- possibly --- but at this time she is still very close and comfortable travelling with Dad. He knows Jackie's moods, likes, dislikes and expectations better than anyone else. In time I believe Jackie will become comfortable with travelling by herself --- like Sumi Jo of Sarah Brightman. But unlike most every other performer, Jackie's professional career began at age 10 and included travelling abroad. Jackie has lived a very different childhood, teen and now adult than most other performers.
Julia --- I know you have your own beliefs and opinion about this subject which seems to upset you quite a bit but I for one totally and without reservation reject it all. I truly hope that you and a couple of others that have some similar feelings will now just drop the subject, because constantly resurrecting it does not convince those that see it differently from changing their minds.
I'll tell you exactly why, Gordie. It's because it is so often that, when we see Jackie in restaurants when not performing, it is her father's grinning face wedged beside her. As though he were in some way responsible for her success. If any member of her family made it possible for Jackie to get her chance, it was her mother and we all know that. And yet Lisa seems to be in purdah, "seriously ill" Jackie says. Lisa has her problems, and we all know that, too, but that doesn't change the fact that, left to Michael Evancho, not only would Jackie not have had her chance, God knows what have happened to the whole family. It was Jackie who saved them all from bankruptcy and that wouldn't have happened without Lisa.
Mike was likely working in those early years so Lisa could be hands-on with Jackie in the pre-AGT days. Lisa was the hands-on parent after AGT as well for awhile according to videos such as practicing in the freezing cold for the parade she sang in, among others where she was the backstage videographer. At the younger years Jackie needed her Momma and had her. For whatever reason, Lisa switched to home parent, very possible that Juliet needed to be her Momma's focus for awhile for her needs and the stuff she was going through.
They have family that are financial and tax professionals, and likely provided the most advantageous way to set up JE Touring, how to pay her parents a fair salary for the support functions they were/are providing. once that salary is paid, it belongs to Mike and Lisa to live on: mortgage, vehicles, the other three kids, retirements etc. JE Touring, or any other entity as discussed previously, may redirect income in a tax advantaged way and are paying for retirements, health benefits etc. I'm sure there are multiple creative ways to minimize your tax burden by paying 'business expenses'.
Over the years, many people try to paint Jackie's entire family as her dependents, leaching off of her money. Many of your comments pertaining to these areas, while not blatant, do have that undertone. We are only able to interpret what we know and have been allowed to observe over the years, and the gaps can be easily filled in a multitude of ways. It is best not to speculate, especially in a negative way.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 20:12:12 GMT -5
I'll tell you exactly why, Gordie. It's because it is so often that, when we see Jackie in restaurants when not performing, it is her father's grinning face wedged beside her. As though he were in some way responsible for her success. If any member of her family made it possible for Jackie to get her chance, it was her mother and we all know that. And yet Lisa seems to be in purdah, "seriously ill" Jackie says. Lisa has her problems, and we all know that, too, but that doesn't change the fact that, left to Michael Evancho, not only would Jackie not have had her chance, God knows what have happened to the whole family. It was Jackie who saved them all from bankruptcy and that wouldn't have happened without Lisa. If you took a second look at your position you would realize that initially, Lisa as a mother, accompanied Jackie until her Lyme disease made it increasingly difficult because of the symptoms including fever, chills, headache, fatigue, muscle and joint pain, and swollen lymph nodes. Not a particularly nice thing to be dealing with on the road. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, conscientious Mike was looking after 3 others for meals , school, and generally acting as surrogate mom in addition to being dad. It eventually fell upon Mike to take over for Lisa allowing her to deal with her medical condition at home and spend time being mom to the other children. It would have been pretty difficult for Mike and almost impossible for Lisa to be working at a full time job with a split family. You must realize that from 10 - 18 years old, all legal agreements, contracts, commitments etc. were the responsibility of Mike and Lisa. Not the type of thing the "home" parent can look after in the evening after coming home from a full time job and then getting meals and addressing the needs of the children.
Looking after Jackie and her career was a full time job. During all this time, Mike created JE Touring Inc. He was and still is the President of that corporation. There is legal responsibilities in looking after that corporation which are ongoing. In addition to looking after the corporation, Mike accompanied Jackie, as a parent, a security resource and one who addressed Jackie's needs and requirements. This left Jackie free to concentrate on doing HER DREAM.
Was Mike entitled to earn an income from the corporation for his time and effort to enable Jackie to pursue her dream --- you bet he was and still is. You can be darn certain that it would have cost the corporation a fair amount to hire people to fulfill what Mike and Lisa were doing. You can also be certain that those employees would be primarily motivated by their paycheck and they would have little concern for Jackie's needs as a child growing up in a non child world. Mike and Lisa are a far cry from being the sponges you think they are.
Now that Jackie is a young adult in a truly adult city, she really needs Mike to be on the look out for those that would take advantage of Jackie and her very sheltered life. Just because she turned 18 does not mean that Mike/Lisa cease to be concerned parents. I believe she will eventually stand more firm on her own two feet but she needs time and safe exposure to what a life in NYC will be like for her and Mike seems to be exposing her to night life and career life in the Big Apple.
Julia --- it really is time you did an internal navel gazing to try and understand why you dislike Mike so much and the life he and Lisa have enabled Jackie to have. There is something seriously wrong as to why you are so disturbed about the Evancho life style they all are living. I do not detect any unhappiness between Jackie and her parents or siblings. Time to let it go.
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Post by johnnyb on May 27, 2019 20:14:16 GMT -5
I'll tell you exactly why, Gordie. It's because it is so often that, when we see Jackie in restaurants when not performing, it is her father's grinning face wedged beside her. As though he were in some way responsible for her success. If any member of her family made it possible for Jackie to get her chance, it was her mother and we all know that. And yet Lisa seems to be in purdah, "seriously ill" Jackie says. Lisa has her problems, and we all know that, too, but that doesn't change the fact that, left to Michael Evancho, not only would Jackie not have had her chance, God knows what have happened to the whole family. It was Jackie who saved them all from bankruptcy and that wouldn't have happened without Lisa.
Mike was likely working in those early years so Lisa could be hands-on with Jackie in the pre-AGT days. Lisa was the hands-on parent after AGT as well for awhile according to videos such as practicing in the freezing cold for the parade she sang in, among others where she was the backstage videographer. At the younger years Jackie needed her Momma and had her. For whatever reason, Lisa switched to home parent, very possible that Juliet needed to be her Momma's focus for awhile for her needs and the stuff she was going through.
They have family that are financial and tax professionals, and likely provided the most advantageous way to set up JE Touring, how to pay her parents a fair salary for the support functions they were/are providing. once that salary is paid, it belongs to Mike and Lisa to live on: mortgage, vehicles, the other three kids, retirements etc. JE Touring, or any other entity as discussed previously, may redirect income in a tax advantaged way and are paying for retirements, health benefits etc. I'm sure there are multiple creative ways to minimize your tax burden by paying 'business expenses'.
Over the years, many people try to paint Jackie's entire family as her dependents, leaching off of her money. Many of your comments pertaining to these areas, while not blatant, do have that undertone. We are only able to interpret what we know and have been allowed to observe over the years, and the gaps can be easily filled in a multitude of ways. It is best not to speculate, especially in a negative way.
Yes, let's not even discuss it, let us continue to bury our heads in the sand, as the saying goes, out of sight out of mind.
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Post by johnnyb on May 27, 2019 20:22:39 GMT -5
I'll tell you exactly why, Gordie. It's because it is so often that, when we see Jackie in restaurants when not performing, it is her father's grinning face wedged beside her. As though he were in some way responsible for her success. If any member of her family made it possible for Jackie to get her chance, it was her mother and we all know that. And yet Lisa seems to be in purdah, "seriously ill" Jackie says. Lisa has her problems, and we all know that, too, but that doesn't change the fact that, left to Michael Evancho, not only would Jackie not have had her chance, God knows what have happened to the whole family. It was Jackie who saved them all from bankruptcy and that wouldn't have happened without Lisa. If you took a second look at your position you would realize that initially, Lisa as a mother, accompanied Jackie until her Lyme disease made it increasingly difficult because of the symptoms including fever, chills, headache, fatigue, muscle and joint pain, and swollen lymph nodes. Not a particularly nice thing to be dealing with on the road. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, conscientious Mike was looking after 3 others for meals , school, and generally acting as surrogate mom in addition to being dad. It eventually fell upon Mike to take over for Lisa allowing her to deal with her medical condition at home and spend time being mom to the other children. It would have been pretty difficult for Mike and almost impossible for Lisa to be working at a full time job with a split family. You must realize that from 10 - 18 years old, all legal agreements, contracts, commitments etc. were the responsibility of Mike and Lisa. Not the type of thing the "home" parent can look after in the evening after coming home from a full time job and then getting meals and addressing the needs of the children.
Looking after Jackie and her career was a full time job. During all this time, Mike created JE Touring Inc. He was and still is the President of that corporation. There is legal responsibilities in looking after that corporation which are ongoing. In addition to looking after the corporation, Mike accompanied Jackie, as a parent, a security resource and one who addressed Jackie's needs and requirements. This left Jackie free to concentrate on doing HER DREAM.
Was Mike entitled to earn an income from the corporation for his time and effort to enable Jackie to pursue her dream --- you bet he was and still is. You can be darn certain that it would have cost the corporation a fair amount to hire people to fulfill what Mike and Lisa were doing. You can also be certain that those employees would be primarily motivated by their paycheck and they would have little concern for Jackie's needs as a child growing up in a non child world. Mike and Lisa are a far cry from being the sponges you think they are.
Now that Jackie is a young adult in a truly adult city, she really needs Mike to be on the look out for those that would take advantage of Jackie and her very sheltered life. Just because she turned 18 does not mean that Mike/Lisa cease to be concerned parents. I believe she will eventually stand more firm on her own two feet but she needs time and safe exposure to what a life in NYC will be like for her and Mike seems to be exposing her to night life and career life in the Big Apple.
Julia --- it really is time you did an internal navel gazing to try and understand why you dislike Mike so much and the life he and Lisa have enabled Jackie to have. There is something seriously wrong as to why you are so disturbed about the Evancho life style they all are living. I do not detect any unhappiness between Jackie and her parents or siblings. Time to let it go.
Yes, thank god mike an Lisa did such a wonderful job managing Jackie's life. LOL! We now see the results, Jackie's year of truths and her multitude of disorders. Geez!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 20:45:48 GMT -5
Yes, thank god mike an Lisa did such a wonderful job managing Jackie's life. LOL! We now see the results, Jackie's year of truths and her multitude of disorders. Geez! Johnnyb said on Jackie Social Media: "Well,Well,Well. I think I can safely say that Jackie has gotten over that Body dysmorphic disorder she claimed to be suffering from. To quote Paris Hilton, " That's Hot." jackieevanchofans.proboards.com/post/37123/thread
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Post by johnnyb on May 27, 2019 20:59:06 GMT -5
Yes, thank god mike an Lisa did such a wonderful job managing Jackie's life. LOL! We now see the results, Jackie's year of truths and her multitude of disorders. Geez! Johnnyb said on Jackie Social Media: "Well,Well,Well. I think I can safely say that Jackie has gotten over that Body dysmorphic disorder she claimed to be suffering from. To quote Paris Hilton, " That's Hot." jackieevanchofans.proboards.com/post/37123/thread What's your take Cleonard on Jackie's latest choice of wardrobe and why she feels she has to push the limits.
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