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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 17:09:59 GMT -5
Looks like it will not be released this year now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 20:58:57 GMT -5
Jorn Swart is a pianist, composer, and arranger, currently living and performing in NYC. The Dutch pianist's refined playing and emotive compositions have garnered him much recognition, both in the USA and in Europe. "Julia replied to the post above: "Perhaps, this will turn out to be the young musician who can take Jackie to a new level of adult popularity." Julia, It may be that your assumption is correct. His statement on this video that he is providing a "string arrangement" as well as piano tracks might suggest it. I wouldn't say for certain, though. We may learn more about him as production progresses.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Nov 20, 2018 22:22:57 GMT -5
What I didn't understand - why there was no serious bio on his webpage - just those trash promo texts... but I found it after some search www.festivalarchive.com/artist/jorn-swart/Masters Degree Queens College NY - but even here one can only guess - jazz piano? Why does he make such a secret about this excellent education? The string arrangent is basic stuff - I think David Foster or whoever produced JE earlier albums did the same - so new level? When Emily Bear was in Europe last year - she met Patrick Hamilton who seems to be big in especially crossover business instagram.com/phamiltonmusic?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=wk2257a0samuwww.the-globe.be/Such arranging work is his daily work - but with an excellent music education it should be easy - you only have to know how the software works - a kind of new instrument - Emily Bear uses Sibelius/Logic? www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17929989751148678/ (don't know why this does not work here - it's the composin insta story on her insta - right circle) - I think- Jacob Collier? (kind of making of) Result: So if there is really a new level - is there a difference to JE former producers? Very likeky he does not get the same payment...so we have to wait
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 23:09:52 GMT -5
The string arrangent is basic stuff - I think David Foster or whoever produced JE earlier albums did the same - so new level? As for what he is revealing in these instagrams, you don't think he would make a sound snippet of something spectacular, do you? He's just informing his followers that he's providing tracks for Jackie's album. Nothing can be determined from what he has provided here. I wouldn't get into an analysis at this point. The extent of his work will only be revealed when the album has been released. "So if there is really a new level - is there a difference to JE former producers?" It's only an assumption that he is producing the album. All he said is he's providing tracks and an arrangement.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Nov 21, 2018 1:10:09 GMT -5
lawrence my post was a reaction to earlier posts by members who hoped for/concluded a new level -
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 1:52:59 GMT -5
lawrence my post was a reaction to earlier posts by members who hoped for/concluded a new level - I realize that. Your "basic stuff" remark, obviously intended to minimize the contribution of an artist working with Jackie on her new album, was sufficient incentive for a response. Good day.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Nov 22, 2018 9:43:04 GMT -5
Very likely the release won't be earlier than the AGT Champions broadcasting - if it's true that she will be part of it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2018 9:51:49 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident that we should be able to all agree that we hope that Jackie's new album does a lot better then her last one did.
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Post by seraphin on Nov 22, 2018 18:01:19 GMT -5
Very likely the release won't be earlier than the AGT Champions broadcasting - if it's true that she will be part of it. I'm wondering if the Feb 15th show in Pittsburgh might be the premier of the new album.
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Post by yellowstone2014 on Dec 2, 2018 2:24:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 3:16:18 GMT -5
Jackie has found an innovative young pianist, composer, arranger in Jorn Swart. www.jornswart.com/Sept. 18, 2017 "Malnoia is timeless and sophisticated, and reshapes the concept of the traditional jazz piano trio. In replacing double bass and drums with bass clarinet and viola, the project elegantly and creatively expands the limits of what is possible within a "piano trio". www.jornswart.com/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 14:21:58 GMT -5
You may recall that in June Jackie was recording with Andre Danek and Justin Smith at Germano Studios, NYC. I expect they were working on what was to become "The New American Songbook". From my post on Articles, blogs...,June 5, 2018: "Andre Danek @goplaynyce - is an accomplished musician, producer, classically trained pianist and musical director. He began his composing career at an award winning music house in New York City, first as an intern, then as a staff composer/creative associate. Throughout his career, Danek has worked on numerous high profile projects for international brands including Mercedes, ESPN, Garnier, Elizabeth Arden, Pepsi, Verizon and Heineken. Though scoring to picture is his forte, Danek regularly plays keys for Broadway shows (Memphis, Motown, Violet). As a keyboard player he shared stage with artists such as Raheem DeVaughn, Tony Braxton, Maxwell, Nikki Minaj, Kelly Price, Miguel, R.Kelly and Kem." -andredanek.com ...Justin Smith @giantfiddler, according to his twitter page, is concert master of DEAR EVAN HANSEN on Broadway, a stage musical, Solo violinist for Kristin Chenoweth. Apparently he is providing accompaniment for at least one of Jackie's new album songs. According to an instagram from Mike, he and Jackie were in NY for what he called 'a successful ten days', apparently Jackie having worked with these musicians during that time."
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Dec 3, 2018 11:38:52 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel is clearly not a music critic and the proof of the matter is reflected in her duets with Andrea B. and Placido D. for example. Both of these musical talents conduct master classes for classical singers. You can be absolutely sure that if these two vocalists choose to sing with Jackie then they deem her talented enough without fear of risking their stature to criticism. Both of them sang with Jackie when she was in her teens …..beyond her 10 year old novelty period. With regards to Jackie's current situation, I believe that a new pop sound for her will take some time to develop. Just as preparing for a career in opera requires formal training, so does changing from a Bel Canto style of singing to that of a pop Belter. A vocalist with a classical style of singing simply cannot become a belter over night. The risk of permanent damage to vocals is too risky if pushed too hard too quickly. I'm not a musical critic which requires a formal musical education nor am I vocal teacher/trainer but I do read. I feel that cutting Jackie some slack until she is properly prepared for a more pop oriented career, if that direction is her desire, is not a huge thing to consider by all her detractors. Certainly, the Bocelli concerts were arranged by David Foster with his very good friend Andrea Bocelli. Can't remember the Placido Domingo duet. Was that when Jackie was with Masterworks. If so, wasn't that just after Domingo signed to Masterworks and they shared a label, which undoubtedly arranged it? I think both these Italian classical singers have wide experience with young kids singing pop arias and musical theater standards.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 12:30:59 GMT -5
Certainly, the Bocelli concerts were arranged by David Foster with his very good friend Andrea Bocelli. Can't remember the Placido Domingo duet. Was that when Jackie was with Masterworks. If so, wasn't that just after Domingo signed to Masterworks and they shared a label, which undoubtedly arranged it? I think both these Italian classical singers have wide experience with young kids singing pop arias and musical theater standards. ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………Not sure what the point of your note is trying to make. David very likely influenced the first duet with Andrea but I would be willing to bet that Jackie in Italy at the CFN Concert was at the request of the concert host - Andrea. With respect to Placido..... I was referring to the Xmas duet recording that the two made. Regardless of whether Placido was signed with Masterworks or not …… they would not be able to dictate to Placido as to who he would record music with. Placido is tooo big to be told what to do if he felt there was some liability singing/recording with Jackie. I would bet that the duet resulted from some chat he likely had with his friend -- Jose Carreras who did a duet with her in Taiwan before Placido. I do agree that Andrea and Placido are known to have worked with talented classical singing children but generally with children that have reached puberty.Both Placido and Jose are Spanish tenors …… Andrea and the late Luciano are Italian tenors.I also would like to mention that Yvie Burnett was not Jackie's vocal teacher, Yvie was a vocal coach hired by AGT to provide coaching and tips to a number of contestants on AGT. She did in fact assist Jackie with tips and limited coaching on getting out of some bad habits but no formal teaching. Trained vocal coaches/teacher seldom get involved doing formal teaching to children until they have reached puberty. Julliard Music school would not consider taking Jackie as a student or for formal lesson training until she was 14. I have also read that many credible vocal coaches/teachers do not get involved with child prodigy vocalists for fear of ruining their development of an advanced instrument and the understanding the prodigy has of their own abilities. Even David Foster said that he had only met a couple of people in his 45 year musical career that had such a musical understanding like Jackie. So it is not difficult to understand the risks a vocal teacher might face with a child prodigy whose musicality might exceed their own.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 12:54:38 GMT -5
Certainly, the Bocelli concerts were arranged by David Foster with his very good friend Andrea Bocelli. Can't remember the Placido Domingo duet. Was that when Jackie was with Masterworks. If so, wasn't that just after Domingo signed to Masterworks and they shared a label, which undoubtedly arranged it? I think both these Italian classical singers have wide experience with young kids singing pop arias and musical theater standards. ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………Not sure what the point of your note is trying to make. David very likely influenced the first duet with Andrea but I would be willing to bet that Jackie in Italy at the CFN Concert was at the request of the concert host - Andrea. With respect to Placido..... I was referring to the Xmas duet recording that the two made. Regardless of whether Placido was signed with Masterworks or not …… they would not be able to dictate to Placido as to who he would record music with. Placido is tooo big to be told what to do if he felt there was some liability singing/recording with Jackie. I would bet that the duet resulted from some chat he likely had with his friend -- Jose Carreras who did a duet with her in Taiwan before Placido. I do agree that Andrea and Placido are known to have worked with talented classical singing children but generally with children that have reached puberty.Both Placido and Jose are Spanish tenors …… Andrea and the late Luciano are Italian tenors.I also would like to mention that Yvie Burnett was not Jackie's vocal teacher, Yvie was a vocal coach hired by AGT to provide coaching and tips to a number of contestants on AGT. She did in fact assist Jackie with tips and limited coaching on getting out of some bad habits but no formal teaching. Trained vocal coaches/teacher seldom get involved doing formal teaching to children until they have reached puberty. Julliard Music school would not consider taking Jackie as a student or for formal lesson training until she was 14. I have also read that many credible vocal coaches/teachers do not get involved with child prodigy vocalists for fear of ruining their development of an advanced instrument and the understanding the prodigy has of their own abilities. Even David Foster said that he had only met a couple of people in his 45 year musical career that had such a musical understanding like Jackie. So it is not difficult to understand the risks a vocal teacher might face with a child prodigy whose musicality might exceed their own. I don't know who originally comes up with the idea for virtual duets, but it's probably the artists labels, especially when they're with the same label. The artist whose album it's on surly has the right to refuse, especially someone of Domingo's stature. There was also a duet with Susan Boyle on one of Domingo's albums, they were both with the same label. On his Christmas album, Pie Jesu was the duet with Jackie. There was another one, Guardian Angels, with Idina Menzel. Later, that same duet was used on Jackie's Someday at Christmas (as a bonus track), but they replaced Idina with Jackie. Amazing how they can do that!! I doubt that was his idea although surly he would have approved. And it's just like the Jackie/Susan duet was done. I doubt very much that it was Jackie's idea.
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