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Post by agog on Sept 9, 2018 11:04:24 GMT -5
A great example is the song "Hello" as sung by Lionel Richie. Then we have the song "Hello" as sung by Adele. Thanks geb. Everyone here is probably familiar with both of those songs as they both had plenty of airplay. Jackie could do a superb job on either. It may be a little early to cover Adele's version. It was a hit only a couple of years ago. That's the one I'd prefer Jackie to cover because it is popular with today's younger music audience. Sia, that young wildly popular dancer, collaborates with Adele in many videos. The young crowd love her too. For these reasons Adele's version gets my vote. What's that you say? I don't have a vote? Oh yeah. Reality.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 12:16:44 GMT -5
A great example is the song "Hello" as sung by Lionel Richie. Then we have the song "Hello" as sung by Adele. Thanks geb. Everyone here is probably familiar with both of those songs as they both had plenty of airplay. Jackie could do a superb job on either. It may be a little early to cover Adele's version. It was a hit only a couple of years ago. That's the one I'd prefer Jackie to cover because it is popular with today's younger music audience. Sia, that young wildly popular dancer, collaborates with Adele in many videos. The young crowd love her too. For these reasons Adele's version gets my vote. What's that you say? I don't have a vote? Oh yeah. Reality. I think the lyrics and character of Lionel Richie's song are more appropriate to Jackie's life experience. I can imagine her singing his romantic vision of "Hello" anytime, beautifully of course.
By the time Jackie records her ninth or tenth album, who knows if she might identify with Adele's emotional anguish. Anyway, I prefer Jackie sing more joyful and hopeful kinds of music, rather than the regret Adele is howling about.
My unrealistic vote is for Richie Cunningham.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 9, 2018 12:45:24 GMT -5
Thanks geb. Everyone here is probably familiar with both of those songs as they both had plenty of airplay. Jackie could do a superb job on either. It may be a little early to cover Adele's version. It was a hit only a couple of years ago. That's the one I'd prefer Jackie to cover because it is popular with today's younger music audience. Sia, that young wildly popular dancer, collaborates with Adele in many videos. The young crowd love her too. For these reasons Adele's version gets my vote. What's that you say? I don't have a vote? Oh yeah. Reality. I think the lyrics and character of Lionel Richie's song are more appropriate to Jackie's life experience. I can imagine her singing his romantic vision of "Hello" anytime, beautifully of course.
By the time Jackie records her ninth or tenth album, who knows if she might identify with Adele's emotional anguish. Anyway, I prefer Jackie sing more joyful and hopeful kinds of music, rather than the regret Adele is howling about. My unrealistic vote is for Richie Cunningham.
If this new album doesn't sell more than 20,000 copies there won't be a ninth or tenth album to worry about.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 12:58:49 GMT -5
Well, Johnny....aren't you the "joyful and hopeful" one....Geez.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 9, 2018 13:17:13 GMT -5
Well, Johnny....aren't you the "joyful and hopeful" one....Geez. I guess Rick is starting to rub off on me a little bit, this new album is not eliciting quite as much excitement for me as the previous releases. π
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Post by ursus on Sept 9, 2018 13:18:34 GMT -5
A great example is the song "Hello" as sung by Lionel Richie. Then we have the song "Hello" as sung by Adele. Thanks geb. Everyone here is probably familiar with both of those songs as they both had plenty of airplay. Jackie could do a superb job on either. It may be a little early to cover Adele's version. It was a hit only a couple of years ago. That's the one I'd prefer Jackie to cover because it is popular with today's younger music audience. Sia, that young wildly popular dancer, collaborates with Adele in many videos. The young crowd love her too. For these reasons Adele's version gets my vote. What's that you say? I don't have a vote? Oh yeah. Reality. Despite the fact that Adele's song has over 2 billion views on Youtube, I don't think that I have listened to it before.
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Post by agog on Sept 9, 2018 14:10:38 GMT -5
Despite the fact that Adele's song has over 2 billion views on Youtube, I don't think that I have listened to it before. Is this the first time ever hearing it for you Ursus? Didn't you hear Adele's version on the radio?
EDIT TO ADD: Upon rereading your post it seems apparent you didn't hear it before this. Connie Clix Pix really liked Adele's album. She posted most of the songs on it on the temporary forum.
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Post by agog on Sept 9, 2018 14:23:02 GMT -5
I think the lyrics and character of Lionel Richie's song are more appropriate to Jackie's life experience. I can imagine her singing his romantic vision of "Hello" anytime, beautifully of course.
By the time Jackie records her ninth or tenth album, who knows if she might identify with Adele's emotional anguish. Anyway, I prefer Jackie sing more joyful and hopeful kinds of music, rather than the regret Adele is howling about.
My unrealistic vote is for Richie Cunningham.
Never underestimate a teenage girl's ability to identify with anguish. At least until the next awesome boyfriend comes along. But seriously, I'll be delighted with either version or even both. I'm thinking this is the first album with a theme and playlist of Jackie's choosing. We'll have to wait for after-release interviews to find out.
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Post by ursus on Sept 9, 2018 14:30:19 GMT -5
Despite the fact that Adele's song has over 2 billion views on Youtube, I don't think that I have listened to it before. Is this the first time ever hearing it for you Ursus? Didn't you hear Adele's version on the radio? The only place I might have heard it is in the local Safeway food store which might have played it over the loud speakers. They do play other Adele songs. The only music which I listen to on the radio is songs from the 1950's and 1960's.
Edit: Agog's reading comprehension has improved.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 14:32:06 GMT -5
I think the lyrics and character of Lionel Richie's song are more appropriate to Jackie's life experience. I can imagine her singing his romantic vision of "Hello" anytime, beautifully of course.
By the time Jackie records her ninth or tenth album, who knows if she might identify with Adele's emotional anguish. Anyway, I prefer Jackie sing more joyful and hopeful kinds of music, rather than the regret Adele is howling about.
My unrealistic vote is for Richie Cunningham.
Never underestimate a teenage girl's ability to identify with anguish. At least until the next awesome boyfriend comes along. But seriously, I'll be delighted with either version or even both. I'm thinking this is the first album with a theme and playlist of Jackie's choosing. We'll have to wait for after-release interviews to find out. Agog, You don't think Jackie's chose Two Hearts and the song selections, after all the times she said how she wanted to express her divided love for CC and pop?
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 9, 2018 15:00:08 GMT -5
Agog says::Never underestimate a teenage girl's ability to identify with anguish. At least until the next awesome boyfriend comes along.
This day and age, don't take for granted it won't be an awesome girlfriend who comes along. π
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Post by rlhamil on Sept 9, 2018 17:28:24 GMT -5
Correct. Names (real or fictional) cannot be copyrighted either, although in some cases they can be trademarked, if there is a clear connection between the name and a brand. And trademarks are generally limited to a very specific line of business, where they are associated by consumers with particular products or services. Trademarking one's own name in particular is difficult, although e.g. Jackie could probably do it as a singer (although it's a sufficiently uncommon name that there's probably no need to do so to avoid confusion, and it's not cheap to attempt). See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer for an example of where trademarks being associated with lines of business that started out unrelated but later had some slight overlap, became rather interesting. Or another odd situation, although with no lawsuits that I know of: "James T. Kirk", the fictional Star Trek captain, is probably trademarked. But there was a couple years ago an actual Captain James Kirk (now an Admiral; I hope he's ok with desk jobs ), of the advanced destroyer USS Zumwalt. Different middle initial, though. Word is Shatner wrote a nice letter of support. www.businessinsider.com/william-shatner-zumwalt-letter-2014-4
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 17:37:01 GMT -5
Well, Johnny....aren't you the "joyful and hopeful" one....Geez. I guess Rick is starting to rub off on me a little bit, this new album is not eliciting quite as much excitement for me as the previous releases. π Johnny B you make a great point, if Jackie's new album doesn't sell well enough to satisfy the powers at be, there might not be another album. Hopefully it will sell a ton.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 17:46:56 GMT -5
Just my view,
Some may be disappointed to learn Jackie has recorded musicals, because they either have an aversion to Broadway or just don't want to hear anything that deviates from their preferences. We don't know yet what song choices she has made, but it ought to be expected that she will have performed them with her own interpretation, characteristic finesse and, of course, that beautiful tone. I guess your enjoyment of the new album or lack of it will depend upon whether you really listen to Jackie's vocals or dismiss them because of a dislike for the genre. Jackie has recorded a few songs that I don't particularly care for, but I thoroughly enjoy listening to her sing them. It's like others have felt about her performances of her arias, their distaste for opera having been dispelled by her innocence, the purity of her untrained voice and her enthusiasm to express the emotion. Her treatment of contemporary musicals may change your perception.
What I appreciate as much as Jackie's voice is her desire to experiment and explore, to challenge herself, and to challenge us as well to listen with discernment rather than judgement. Jackie sings what has inspired her, and that is the essence of true art. For me, it's not a matter of what songs she sings, but how she sings them. Anything from opera to the religious to classical pop to movie themes to jazz to musicals, it's all about vocal artistry. And, Jackie is one of the finest and most versatile vocalists we have the opportunity to appreciate today. Give this album your honest indulgence in the art of listening, and perhaps you'll appreciate what she is offering.
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Post by agog on Sept 9, 2018 18:16:07 GMT -5
Edit: Agog's reading comprehension has improved. I explained to everyone here a week or so ago that I always felt I'd have done well in sixth grade if given the opportunity. Always onward and upward. That's ol' agog's motto. Oh yeah "Buy low, sell high" is another motto of mine. Confidentially, neither have panned out for me.
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