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Post by agog on Feb 9, 2018 12:48:29 GMT -5
Also, Mr. agog the finals video you mentioned earlier was the week before (Pie Jesu). This thread, is by the way, named Mistakes. Ha !!!! Well I fit right in here don't I? When this thread first started, I wrote a VERY long post that nearly covered my history up to potty training. Then I realized the "mistakes" were supposed to be about Jackie's management. Too bad for the rest of you. The narrative was about to get interesting.
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 9, 2018 13:02:00 GMT -5
Also, Mr. agog the finals video you mentioned earlier was the week before (Pie Jesu). This thread, is by the way, named Mistakes. Ha !!!! Well I fit right in here don't I? When this thread first started, I wrote a VERY long post that nearly covered my history up to potty training. Then I realized the "mistakes" were supposed to be about Jackie's management. Too bad for the rest of you. The narrative was about to get interesting. we understand it was a very long time for the potty training
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 9, 2018 13:08:27 GMT -5
Why did they ( Evancho ) have a Jackie "STORE " and never talked about it to promote it even far back as JEFC ? was it a mistake by them so they dis-owned it , ? not enough percent profit ? after signing the papers .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2018 15:26:02 GMT -5
It can be tough to find a good sitter for a dog let alone your own children. Mike gets my vote. WOW !!!! this from Mr Wisdom ? where are all the good neighbors or good friends or family members , where are the good people with Wisdom ? that he could trust ? Does a wise man trust his children to incompetent help? And, yes, where are the good people with Wisdom? Perhaps it is best that you discover the answer for yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 8:12:20 GMT -5
Also, Mr. agog the finals video you mentioned earlier was the week before (Pie Jesu). This thread, is by the way, named Mistakes. Ha !!!! Well I fit right in here don't I? When this thread first started, I wrote a VERY long post that nearly covered my history up to potty training. Then I realized the "mistakes" were supposed to be about Jackie's management. Too bad for the rest of you. The narrative was about to get interesting. Go to 2:07. Mike was at the finals with Matt and Jacob. Go to 2:29. Mike and the whole family were there.
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Post by jamesn on Feb 10, 2018 10:38:15 GMT -5
Why did they ( Evancho ) have a Jackie "STORE " and never talked about it to promote it even far back as JEFC ? was it a mistake by them so they dis-owned it , ? not enough percent profit ? after singing the papers . In a very related way, I can't believe all the missed opportunities (or what appear to have been opportunities) to hawk her limited line of merchandise AT her concerts!? The first one I attended was at Dallas' Meyerson Center and I looked for a table in the beautiful lobby selling at least DWM CD's or maybe posters - nothing. At least they were selling stuff, including T-shirts, in the lobby of the Orpheum during the PBS filming, though I don't remember any the next time at Longwood. But at the Ironstone concert with Tony Bennett, again nada. I think that at least half of the concerts I've attended there's been no merchandise for sale, though it has gotten better, especially when her two programs were available. I haven't attended one now since Indianapolis - what's it been like lately?
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 10, 2018 13:04:17 GMT -5
Why did they ( Evancho ) have a Jackie "STORE " and never talked about it to promote it even far back as JEFC ? was it a mistake by them so they dis-owned it , ? not enough percent profit ? after singing the papers . In a very related way, I can't believe all the missed opportunities (or what appear to have been opportunities) to hawk her limited line of merchandise AT her concerts!? The first one I attended was at Dallas' Meyerson Center and I looked for a table in the beautiful lobby selling at least DWM CD's or maybe posters - nothing. At least they were selling stuff, including T-shirts, in the lobby of the Orpheum during the PBS filming, though I don't remember any the next time at Longwood. But at the Ironstone concert with Tony Bennett, again nada. I think that at least half of the concerts I've attended there's been no merchandise for sale, though it has gotten better, especially when her two programs were available. I haven't attended one now since Indianapolis - what's it been like lately? The store was selling her doll still at like $38.00 when you could but it for $9.95 , i bought a numbers of 2010 and 2011 items when all things left at 75% off , the time of 2011 was the best buy to collect , i even sent Agne G , a singer from the windy city 3 nice items as she likes Jackie
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 10, 2018 13:10:10 GMT -5
WOW !!!! this from Mr Wisdom ? where are all the good neighbors or good friends or family members , where are the good people with Wisdom ? that he could trust ? Does a wise man trust his children to incompetent help? And, yes, where are the good people with Wisdom? Perhaps it is best that you discover the answer for yourself. Who is taking about incompetent help ? , of course not , are all the family incompetent ? , no worry bout me ben as i know the answer , "" the more i learn about people the more i like my dog "" , , of course you know all the people with wisdom , you read them
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Post by agog on Feb 10, 2018 15:52:08 GMT -5
How about Germany where CC singing is still somewhat popular!? The Evanchos seem to have something against Germany, as per Lisa's statement (long ago- hopefully now just the usual BS) that Jackie would NEVER sing anything in German. (After some songs like Brahms or Schumann lieder were suggested for her.) Possibly this could be a natural revulsion against Germany, considering that Mike's family is of Polish/Ukrainian origin and Lisa's Italian background may or may not have been affected by WWII. Regardless, this was a stupid declaration and any decision not to tour, for whatever reason, might possibly have had an adverse effect on her potential European career. Hi James. I remember Lisa saying no German songs ever for Jackie. <---paraphrase. I didn't get the impression at the time that there was any anti-nationalist sentiment in her position. As I recall it was about the many hard consonants and some guttural words in German as contrasted by the more vowel dominated languages like French or Spanish or Latin. I bet English with it's many hard consonants, hard G, K etc. sounds closer to German than to Latin to someone who doesn't speak either language.
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Post by agog on Feb 10, 2018 16:01:56 GMT -5
Why did they ( Evancho ) have a Jackie "STORE " and never talked about it to promote it even far back as JEFC ? was it a mistake by them so they dis-owned it , ? not enough percent profit ? after singing the papers . In a very related way, I can't believe all the missed opportunities (or what appear to have been opportunities) to hawk her limited line of merchandise AT her concerts!? The first one I attended was at Dallas' Meyerson Center and I looked for a table in the beautiful lobby selling at least DWM CD's or maybe posters - nothing. At least they were selling stuff, including T-shirts, in the lobby of the Orpheum during the PBS filming, though I don't remember any the next time at Longwood. But at the Ironstone concert with Tony Bennett, again nada. I think that at least half of the concerts I've attended there's been no merchandise for sale, though it has gotten better, especially when her two programs were available. I haven't attended one now since Indianapolis - what's it been like lately? I too noticed the lack of promotional items, often including no CDs for sale at Jackie concerts. I thought sale of merchandise and CDs would provide a role for Jacob, maybe with Rachel hanging out at the merch counter too, to help Jackie's PR and add some (maybe a lot of) spending loot for the sibs interested. Much more Jackie merchandise would have been sold if it was there. I'm beginning to think ol' Zach is the one with some sense out of the lot. Lol. Hope he's advancing on his pilot license. EDIT: Actually I'm not beginning to think that about Zach. It's been my gut feeling for some time.
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 12, 2018 13:27:15 GMT -5
In a very related way, I can't believe all the missed opportunities (or what appear to have been opportunities) to hawk her limited line of merchandise AT her concerts!? The first one I attended was at Dallas' Meyerson Center and I looked for a table in the beautiful lobby selling at least DWM CD's or maybe posters - nothing. At least they were selling stuff, including T-shirts, in the lobby of the Orpheum during the PBS filming, though I don't remember any the next time at Longwood. But at the Ironstone concert with Tony Bennett, again nada. I think that at least half of the concerts I've attended there's been no merchandise for sale, though it has gotten better, especially when her two programs were available. I haven't attended one now since Indianapolis - what's it been like lately? I too noticed the lack of promotional items, often including no CDs for sale at Jackie concerts. I thought sale of merchandise and CDs would provide a role for Jacob, maybe with Rachel hanging out at the merch counter too, to help Jackie's PR and add some (maybe a lot of) spending loot for the sibs interested. Much more Jackie merchandise would have been sold if it was there. I'm beginning to think ol' Zach is the one with some sense out of the lot. Lol. Hope he's advancing on his pilot license. EDIT: Actually I'm not beginning to think that about Zach. It's been my gut feeling for some time. Zach to me has been the Shy one .
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Post by richard on Feb 12, 2018 13:53:46 GMT -5
Well I fit right in here don't I? When this thread first started, I wrote a VERY long post that nearly covered my history up to potty training. Then I realized the "mistakes" were supposed to be about Jackie's management. Too bad for the rest of you. The narrative was about to get interesting. Go to 2:07. Mike was at the finals with Matt and Jacob. Go to 2:29. Mike and the whole family were there. Jackie was in the top ten and Mike did not show up. Hopefully when Jackie turns 18 she will cut all the deadbeats out of her career, then she mayhave enough money for a fresh start.
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Post by german on Feb 13, 2018 0:50:05 GMT -5
As you already have realized I hate classic crossover (because its mostly fake classical singing by people with no real talent for real classical music) singing. Yes there are people who like this here. But as hard as it sounds. Too late for Jackie Evancho. The last german about her - I really checked minutes ago - article was the ironical Sueddeutsche Article about the inauguration and why she fitted so well for the conservatives "white, blonde, american girl" Perhaps a few still know her because of AGT but filling a concert alone in a big venue - never A few years ago - mabye cute - but now 18 the classic critics would shred her. Such a narrow, elitist position. Would you have no Rock music? No Soul music? No Bluegrass? No Gospel? No Classical Crossover??? No Broadway? No American songbook? No Lieder Music? What about Die Twinnies? I like them. How about Laura Kub..(Oh I can't spell her name) singing delightfully for us 'Englische, Deutsche and Math.' (again spelling) A delightful German teen girl at a fountain in a small German village or neighborhood griping about school. American kids gripe about school too. One of several of your countrymen who post here, said about Jackie's voice compared to 'trained' vocalists, Jackie's voice is "more comfortable." That's the most elegant description I ever read about the quality of Jackie's voice. What's wrong in your opinion about "White, blonde, American (or German) girls? The military age "refugees" in the Sharia No-go zones in your country seem to prefer them. I invite you to come over to the Jackie Amazon proboards forum. We can have an unhindered discussion. Shredding works both directions there. jackie-amazon.proboards.com/1st I cited the Sueddeutsche - but its quite clear Jackie fits Trump voters 2. Classical crossover great if it would be performed by real talented singers. Sarah Brightman is absolute trash. She was better at Voice Kids Germany when 14 now at 16 she would Brightman from stage She is classes better whatever performed on AGT on this genre. And still years of learning ahead. 3. I don't take the words of Evancho family to serious. In 2010 Jackie should perform at Carnegie Hall, suddenly no- because of album promo - hahaha - Emily Bear took part, with own music - suddenly Jackie Evancho was not the youngest anymore, only cover singer - so they ...haha For years there us no real development in her voice, many students at german universities sing better - she would be torn apart by critics.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 10:41:41 GMT -5
Go to 2:07. Mike was at the finals with Matt and Jacob. Go to 2:29. Mike and the whole family were there. Jackie was in the top ten and Mike did not show up. Hopefully when Jackie turns 18 she will cut all the deadbeats out of her career, then she mayhave enough money for a fresh start. I think it will be a great day when JE takes over more of her own career and turns off her family ATM machine and opens up one just for herself.
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Post by Julia Trenholm on Feb 13, 2018 11:19:29 GMT -5
Jackie was in the top ten and Mike did not show up. Hopefully when Jackie turns 18 she will cut all the deadbeats out of her career, then she mayhave enough money for a fresh start. I think it will be a great day when JE takes over more of her own career and turns off her family ATM machine and opens up one just for herself. That assumes that Jackie is tough enough and knowledgeable enough to handle her own career. Or, more likely, that she can attract a manager with the talent and experience to handle her career for the standard compensation of 10-15% of her present income. Being professionally managed doesn't come free. Up to now, Jackie has preferred to pay her parents that fee. Or maybe Marc Johnston if he is still in the picture and the one booking her concerts.
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